i guess its a Q27X so QS stepping S3Thanks for the quick reply and help! I have ordered the Xeon 5411N QS now
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Hi, sorry if a bit offtopic, but i haven't been following lately and don't know anything about all the QS codes you are talking about here, but i was wondering if there is any new 'hot' cheap QS CPU + motherboard combo for a high performance workstation that everyone is buying?
I have an old C246 + xeon E.2186G in a midsize ATX (no E-ATX support) case, and was wondering about something with pcie4, but still 'workstation' CPU with less cores but higher frequencies.. But is 'dirt cheap' QS CPU that can be made to run with some mod, and thus makes it a cheap combo for home builders.. thx for any tips
I have an old C246 + xeon E.2186G in a midsize ATX (no E-ATX support) case, and was wondering about something with pcie4, but still 'workstation' CPU with less cores but higher frequencies.. But is 'dirt cheap' QS CPU that can be made to run with some mod, and thus makes it a cheap combo for home builders.. thx for any tips
no. at least LGA4677 motherboards and the required DDR5 RDIMM are very expensive.
QS are very expensive compared to real ES (ES = no warranty it works with next BIOS)
QS never need any mod.
QS = production unit with ES bit set.
there is a 24 core QS for 250€ (new tray price 1600€) maybe i can call it dirt cheap.
where?
many go with ASUS W790 motherboard and (cheap) Sapphire Rapids ES instead of expensive real Xeon Ws
or with gigabyte C741 motherboard and Emerald Rapids ES instead of expensive QS or prod.unit.
seach ebay, Intel Xeon Silver 5411N QS
intel Xeon Gold 6428N QS 399€ (ebay germany)
or platinum 8470 EV-QS for 299€ (ebay germany)
thanks.. i should not buy anything but i can't help it.. thanks for the tips, i will follow this thread better..
just an example, there are man other seller
5411N EV-QS
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i'm assuming you are buying all these from china.. because there is no alternative
sure but not ebay, at goofish or taobao you pay half the price.
if you looking for more cores and you are located in EU there is curr. a listing for platinum 8470 EV-QS 52 core 299€
with the c741 mobo, still 1000 EUR.. I will wait until some 'super-hot' combo for like 500EUR emerges
I thought i got a good deal on my E5-2680v4's for 112 EUR a piece, now they are 10 EUR
I paid 250 EUR for 2x32GB DDR 2133 ECC rdimm's, now they are 14 EUR a piece
I must wait.
I thought i got a good deal on my E5-2680v4's for 112 EUR a piece, now they are 10 EUR
I paid 250 EUR for 2x32GB DDR 2133 ECC rdimm's, now they are 14 EUR a piece
I must wait.
you then missed the Tyan 4677 board from ebay us $300 (sold out now)with the c741 mobo, still 1000 EUR.. I will wait until some 'super-hot' combo for like 500EUR emerges
got my MS33-CPA (OEM) for 400€ and SPC741D8UD for less...
keep your eyes open.
Big thanks to @RolloZ170 for providing the modded BIOS and helpful Windows tweaking tips! My Q2SR build is almost complete thanks to your help.
Regarding the MS03-CEO motherboard, it's very good, but has a few downsides:
No built-in WiFi. (You'll need an add-in card).
No USB Type-C ports.
Onboard M.2 slot limited to PCIe Gen 3 (not Gen 4).
And this motherboard's BIOS lacks an S3 (Suspend-to-RAM) sleep option entirely. (And Linux dmesg shows: "[ 2.537665] ACPI: PM: (supports S0 S4 S5)", no S3)
As a result, the system defaults to S0ix Modern Standby.
While this puts the CPU cores into C6 state (good), the fans keep running during standby (disruptive for standby)
Although this motherboard supports S4 Hibernate, I haven't been able to get it working successfully. Attempts result in errors during the suspend process, with dmesg showing (my cpu's Hyper-threading is disable):
"...
[30227.798757] smpboot: CPU 4 is now offline
[30227.801672] smpboot: CPU 3 is now offline
[30227.804806] smpboot: CPU 2 is now offline
[30227.806439] CPU 1 has 149 vectors, 51 available. Cannot disable CPU
[30227.807603] Error taking CPU1 down: -28
[30227.807606] Non-boot CPUs are not disabled
..."
Overall, I think this is a very good motherboard.
Hope this helps!
almost NO server motherboard supports S3, you need a workstation board then and other CPUs.
e.g. ASUS W790 (Ace/SAGE) or ASRock WS W790, but the ASRock supports S3 only with 1DPC, not with 8 RDIMMs.
in S3 the sensors vanish, the BMCs can not handle this, ASUS W790 SAGE runs a special BMC Firmware.
in S3 the RAM must stay powered and the self-refresh must be started by who ? normaly the SPDs are connected to the chipset, but not on boards with BMC. BIOS must re-init PCIe devices after S3 resume, EFI drivers needed(up to date) and the mem. should not be init/erased...
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Yes it helps, thank you.
In the meantime I ordered the W790 Asus + QYFS + fast server memory, even though it is a "bad" (not really) deal at this point. RolloZ170 and a bit of investigation assured me that sleep is not going to work with EMR. I will think about another upgrade if Intel releases a workstation line in GRS (is this the usual abbreviation for Granite Rapids?), along with a new chipset for workstations...
Anyway, if you're running the machine all the time (like a server), or fine with the long boot, then EMR with Gigabyte is a superb solution! I'm happy you like it
GNR
it is long at cold boot after AC loss, warm not that long. my ASRock Rack SPC741 takes much much much longer....
btw: EMR A0 work with ASRock Rack C741 boards too with the same BIOS tweak.
this is Q30H 56 core, supports 5600Mt RAM like Q2SR & Q2Y7
My Q2SR build boots fairly quickly:Anyway, if you're running the machine all the time (like a server), or fine with the long boot, then EMR with Gigabyte is a superb solution! I'm happy you like it
- BIOS logo (Gigabyte) appears at ~30 seconds
- Windows loading animation starts at ~1 minute
- Desktop is ready by ~1m 40s.