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1337n00blar

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Hey all! I'm thinking of buying a Gigabyte MS73-HB1 from Newegg, 2 QYFRs from eBay, and 16 sticks of 64 GB DDR5 4800 ECC from Amazon for use in a project on calculating satellite ephemera and then follow-on LLM use. My understanding from this thread is that that will work, but I wanted to check with the experts here. Also, is there any advantage speed-wise (vs. compatibility) for the QYK8 vs the QYFR? It just seems like for the $450 price point I might as well go for the Q03J or QYFX. Thanks!
 

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the TDP plays the game in multithreading. but the QYK8 has 4Ghz boost (only if 28 cores are lazy)
note it is hard to put load on all cores in dual socket configs. the used software must be capable of this.
Thanks so much for the reply! It seems like for my use case (less experienced user, application that occasionally goes to fewer processes), the single socket QYK8 with a GIGABYTE MS33-AR0 might be the right call. Although the QYK8 costs about the same as the 60-core QYFX, the QYK8 has higher boost clock speeds. Are there any other advantages / disadvantages?
 

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Skip 2nd gen 8100 (LGA 3647) unless you can find 8180s for the price of 8136s.
Skip 3rd gen 8300 (LGA 4189) all together. Really, skip it.
I was browsing the thread and saw this comment post and cannot find any related discussion.
Why recommend skipping 2nd gen 8100 (LGA 3647) and 3rd gen 8300 (LGA 4189) ?
Any problems with the cpus or motherboards of those generations? Or value or performance is better in different platform or generation?
 
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if you have the motherboard and 2x Q2SR i can provide it ( if realy needed )
we have already 2x Q30G running on MS73-HB1 with a little help.
I have purchased MS73-HB1 and 2x Q30G. I checked the previous comment post but couldn't find details about mod/tweak BIOS. Could you help me make dual Q30G running?
 

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I received my ms33-ar0 from newegg, some 64gb RAM modules from the QVL, and installed a QYFX into it. I have a network cable attached to the 1 Gbe IPMI port, and a VGA cable attached to the onboard VGA. The system turns on with fans at full speed for 1 minute 40 seconds and then things ramp down, the fans are still running but slower. I never get an output from the onboard VGA, and I don't see an the IPMI getting an IP address while looking for it in my routers network map. I also tried removing all of the RAM but I get the same result.

I am seeing a blinking BMC led light, which the manual says means that the BMC should be available.

Does anyone know what the issue might be? Dead motherboard? Dead CPU? I'm leaning towards a motherboard defect due to no BMC/IPMI IP and no VGA output.
 

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and installed a QYFX into it.
proper installed ? your first LGA4677/4189 ???
and I don't see an the IPMI getting an IP address while looking for it in my routers network map.
a new board is set to DHCP. to access BMCWebGUI,plug only the BMC LAN to prevent failover to other LAN.
I never get an output from the onboard VGA
do you have a real analog VGA monitor ? unplug the 15pin and re-plug helps sometimes.
 

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proper installed ? your first LGA4677/4189 ???

a new board is set to DHCP. to access BMCWebGUI,plug only the BMC LAN to prevent failover to other LAN.

do you have a real analog VGA monitor ? unplug the 15pin and re-plug helps sometimes.
Yes this is my first LGA 4677 CPU installation.

I followed the guide in the manual and installed the CPU into the E1A carrier, added thermal paste to it, then installed it into the heatsink. Then I took the cover off of the CPU socket and lined the screws up with the holes in the heatsink frame. then tightend the screws in the star pattern shown in the manual until allow four were tight. I haven't seen a newton meter suggestion though.

I only have the BMC ethernet connected.

I don't have a real VGA monitor anymore so I've been trying with adapters, they worked with a different BMC I was using a few months ago, but I guess they could be incompatible.

I was able to assign a static IP address to the BMC mac address, even though I couldn't see it listed on the network map or in the client list at all.

Once the static IP was set I was able to see it in the network map and also connect to the BMC. After logging into the BMC I found that my QYFX is being listed as a Intel(R) Xeon(R) Silver 4416+

I'm also seeing that the BMC is reporting that I have 288 GB of memory installed and that all 16 DIMM slots are being used. However I only have a single 64 GB DIMM installed.

I opened up the remote control and saw that it appears to be stuck on memory initialization, it lists only a dimm in slot a0, which is where I installed my dimm. After that it shows the BMC ip address correctly at the bottom of the screen.

With the incorrect CPU detected and the incorrect RAM listed in the inventory, did I get a scam QYFX from eBay or is there some other explanation?
 

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I received my ms33-ar0 from newegg, some 64gb RAM modules from the QVL, and installed a QYFX into it. I have a network cable attached to the 1 Gbe IPMI port, and a VGA cable attached to the onboard VGA. The system turns on with fans at full speed for 1 minute 40 seconds and then things ramp down, the fans are still running but slower. I never get an output from the onboard VGA, and I don't see an the IPMI getting an IP address while looking for it in my routers network map. I also tried removing all of the RAM but I get the same result.

I am seeing a blinking BMC led light, which the manual says means that the BMC should be available.

Does anyone know what the issue might be? Dead motherboard? Dead CPU? I'm leaning towards a motherboard defect due to no BMC/IPMI IP and no VGA output.
You should be able to get an BMC IP address even without a CPU. That's how I updated my bios even before I received my QYK8. If your BMC is not updating with the correct ram/cpu then something is wrong hardware wise. My previous Epyc did the same thing because the ram was not working right. I would also try re-torqing the cpu heatsink. I didn't use a torque driver for mine and just did it slowly in a star pattern without any issues. Where are you located? Maybe someone could help you test the components?
 

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I'm also seeing that the BMC is reporting that I have 288 GB of memory installed and that all 16 DIMM slots are being used. However I only have a single 64 GB DIMM installed.
BMC updates inventory at about time when shows UEFI splash screen, if your system is stuck before that - it would show previous state, so if you got a used motherboard - that probably was last configuration that previous owner had.
 
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BMC updates inventory at about time when shows UEFI splash screen, if your system is stuck before that - it would show previous state, so if you got a used motherboard - that probably was last configuration that previous owner had.
Yes it looks like that is the case, the memory error was occurring before the system inventory was updated.
 

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I opened up the remote control and saw that it appears to be stuck on memory initialization, it lists only a dimm in slot a0, which is where I installed my dimm. After that it shows the BMC ip address correctly at the bottom of the screen.
check any other Slot (only the 0s) and wait 5 minutes.
 

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what BIOS is reported ?
I was originally on F19.

I did update to R11 but the update didn't seem to work, turns out it was due to the memory error.

When I have a dimm installed in a0 I get this error
ID: 198 SYSTEM Event sensor of type Memory logged a bios : Uncorrectable ECC / other uncorrectable memory error(DIMM_A0) was asserted

After I removed the dimm from channel a0, only had a dimm in g0 I was able to post. Now the correct CPU is reported and the R11 bios revision is reported. I tested dimms in other slots like c0, d0, e0 and they seem to work with the dimms that did not work in a0. I'm going to try checking the rest of channels to see if they all work.

Would reseating the CPU help the a0 channel problem? If reseating it does not help is that more than likely a CPU issue or a motherboard issue?