ES Xeon Discussion
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I have 1 Xeon 8260 QQ89 ES in a Dell poweredge r640 and PCIE devices are outputting errors and are not recognized. (an M.2 carrier card, and a dual gigabit pcie x1 nic) I'm thinking of updating the bios to most current revision, current revision I have installed is 2.13.3, should I update to the 2.23 BIOS revision or is there a special BIOS section that I would need to roll back to to get functionality back? The PCIE devices worked fine when dual 4114s were installed, and the PERC card is recognized which is on a pcie x8 link, which makes me think it's likely a BIOS issue. Thanks!
As you're pointing out - this is ES version of CPU, it's better to test in on another machine to validate what PCIe lanes are working fine there.
Otherwise you might be suspecting it's because of BIOS but it could be something else not related to DELL PC.
But generally yes, I would start cutting off some advanced functionality (e.g. disabling CPU features that are not needed for home testbench, like encryption, isolation, and so on) or modify config settings (latencies, master bus, packet size, legacy rom, enforce PCIe generation to avoid unnecessary detection, etc.) as alternative.
maybe you use PCIe slots connected to processor2 and need two CPU installed ?
My test CPU Xeon 3204 is good work with 32Gb memory modules KSM26RS4/32MFR and KSM26RS4/32HAI
I bought two Xeon 8259CL and testing with 8gbit 32Gb memory modules. All was Ok. But do not work with 16gbit above memory modules. Very strange.
I right understood that 8259CL have "old" memory controller of Skylake-SP family or may be another not know me problem?
Add: My motherboard is Lenovo P920 with VRM ICC_MAX mod.
I bought two Xeon 8259CL and testing with 8gbit 32Gb memory modules. All was Ok. But do not work with 16gbit above memory modules. Very strange.
I right understood that 8259CL have "old" memory controller of Skylake-SP family or may be another not know me problem?
Add: My motherboard is Lenovo P920 with VRM ICC_MAX mod.
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8259CL supports PMEM and no UDIMM, Skylake no PMEM but UDIMM.
'C' confidential SKU for select customers. you get no info about those.
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Thanks. I understand this. I have six modules and think now how found support it CPU for good price))
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I'm trying to upgrade my Supermicro X11SPM-TF (BIOS 2.0b) from a Xeon Gold ES 6142-QL28 to a Platinum ES 8260-QQ89 I just bought on eBay.
When I pop in the new CPU, my memory is not detected. ("Memory Training" error). I tried hard setting the speed down to 2400, no go.
Seller says to upgrade BIOS but I am skeptical because my understanding is only the 2.0b supports ES CPUs, and my old 6142 works fine so I am reluctant to attempt an upgrade.
I notice in Supermicro's page for the -F - It says BIOS 3.0a/3.2 is required for 2nd gen Scalable.
Has anybody got experience with this board and CPU combo?
Thanks!
When I pop in the new CPU, my memory is not detected. ("Memory Training" error). I tried hard setting the speed down to 2400, no go.
Seller says to upgrade BIOS but I am skeptical because my understanding is only the 2.0b supports ES CPUs, and my old 6142 works fine so I am reluctant to attempt an upgrade.
I notice in Supermicro's page for the -F - It says BIOS 3.0a/3.2 is required for 2nd gen Scalable.
Has anybody got experience with this board and CPU combo?
Thanks!
Skylake ES. you have cascade lake now. this gen was not alive the time your BIOS was build.
Platinum ES 8260-QQ89 is stepping A0 50655
you need the BIOS with 2nd gen support.
Thank you, @RolloZ170 your expertise on this is much appreciated.
Do you know if I need a special ES BIOS mod or specific version? If it helps, this is the eBay listing: Intel Xeon Platinum 8260 ES QQ89 24C 2.4GHz 3.1/3.9GHz 35.75MB 165W LGA3647 DDR4 | eBay - 4.5 is the latest available on Supermicro's site.
If I get stuck with neither my new or old CPU working, what would be the best way to recover? Is there a way I can backup my current BIOS before I do anything?
I want to have a bit of a plan before I take an action that might require a lot of time to undo. I have 2 of these servers to upgrade, both identical.
Thanks so much
Do you know if I need a special ES BIOS mod or specific version? If it helps, this is the eBay listing: Intel Xeon Platinum 8260 ES QQ89 24C 2.4GHz 3.1/3.9GHz 35.75MB 165W LGA3647 DDR4 | eBay - 4.5 is the latest available on Supermicro's site.
If I get stuck with neither my new or old CPU working, what would be the best way to recover? Is there a way I can backup my current BIOS before I do anything?
I want to have a bit of a plan before I take an action that might require a lot of time to undo. I have 2 of these servers to upgrade, both identical.
Thanks so much
update to 3.8 first. imho the QQ89 should work with BIOS 4.5 but not sure.
i am not sure but you may have to stay on BIOS 3.x after upgrading to it for security reasons.
QQ89 is working with at least BIOS 3.0c - stepping A0 is used by Production units and QS as well.
you should get rid of that BIOS 2.x because so many bugs/vulnerabilities.
I got both servers done and everything is working now.
First I upgraded IPMI to 1.74.17 then BIOS to 3.8a. I'm not going to risk 4.5 since everything is fine so far. I did both upgrades through the IPMI web GUI.
A couple of hiccups I had to get through:
- After the IPMI upgrade, the remote console didn't work at first, and showed "undefined" where option is supposed to be. Clearing the browser cookies fixed that.
- One of my servers entered a reboot loop with a black screen with fast blink cursor at the point it should boot. I pulled all the PCIe cards, went into setup, and discovered legacy OPROM was enabled in a few places. I set everything to UEFI, that fixed it.
Thanks @RolloZ170 for the advice, @BlueFox for the amazing Supermicro BIOS indexing page.
Dave
First I upgraded IPMI to 1.74.17 then BIOS to 3.8a. I'm not going to risk 4.5 since everything is fine so far. I did both upgrades through the IPMI web GUI.
A couple of hiccups I had to get through:
- After the IPMI upgrade, the remote console didn't work at first, and showed "undefined" where option is supposed to be. Clearing the browser cookies fixed that.
- One of my servers entered a reboot loop with a black screen with fast blink cursor at the point it should boot. I pulled all the PCIe cards, went into setup, and discovered legacy OPROM was enabled in a few places. I set everything to UEFI, that fixed it.
Thanks @RolloZ170 for the advice, @BlueFox for the amazing Supermicro BIOS indexing page.
Dave
Anyone know whee I could get an e0 stepping 8490h? I've been trying to get Q03J or a Q03Z, but I purchased from multiple sellers on ebay and have had multiple orders canceled as they actually only have d0 stepping QYFX. I contacted the rest of the sellers with Q03J and Q03Z listing's and they are also claiming only stock of QYFX. Infact almost all listing's of Q03J and Q03Z have been converted to list QYFX as well in the last 24 hkurs.
Makes me think Q03J and Q03Z were coming from a single source even though there were many sellers.
Makes me think Q03J and Q03Z were coming from a single source even though there were many sellers.