ES Xeon Discussion
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wow, that's a good deal if you need accelerators...I wonder how broken they are on ES2
two 8490H ES 350W(and 2x QYFS ES2 350W) is working on MS73-HB1 - so there is no TDP block.
but the 8475B QS OEM can have higher TDC like happen with the 2nd gen OEMs.
from 3rd gen and up TDC (amps) is replaced by PL4 (watts).
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Hi Folks!
I'm trying to decide between a MS03-CE0 at CAD $1070 ($790 USD) or a Asus Pro WS WS790-ACE for $1180 ($875 USD) with a D0 8480+. Any tips to consider?
MS03 is more designed specifically for it while the WS790 has more consumer friendly features like sound, 10 Gbps, USB 3.2 Gen2 etc. From a future proofing point of view - what do you think is the best option?
I'm trying to decide between a MS03-CE0 at CAD $1070 ($790 USD) or a Asus Pro WS WS790-ACE for $1180 ($875 USD) with a D0 8480+. Any tips to consider?
MS03 is more designed specifically for it while the WS790 has more consumer friendly features like sound, 10 Gbps, USB 3.2 Gen2 etc. From a future proofing point of view - what do you think is the best option?
note that Asus Pro WS WS790-ACE supports only 4 mem.channels.(2DPC) but XMP.
edit: MS03 supports already 5th gen scalable EMR(Emerald Rapids) W790 Ace will never do,
I've seen (articles dated nearly a year ago) here and here 8475B are made for Alibaba cloud used in ECS g8i offerings, presumably having QAT, DSA and IAA accelerators (no mentions of DLB)
Had a chat with ebay sellers to get it for an affordable price to homeuser but with no much of luck (although they already do go at around $1.5K+Tax a piece by now), therefore still can't get those for tests despite having dual-cpu board and x16 RDIMMs ready.
But there already are various compute research/benchmark articles for scientific purposes having references to platform specification having this CPU at core (and we can reasonably assume tests were simply done in Alibaba cloud).
Also Wikipedia says here Sapphire Rapids - Wikipedia
it's 350W (not higher like with 8488C = 385W) but I'm not sure how reliable this info is.
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Seems to be some ES QYFP D0 available that look like it. But they are at 1.5 Ghz base clock however
Thanks - I think I'll go with the MS03. Worth the 3 week wait - they are BO. Are air cooler sufficient for these beasts? In Canada it's hard to find some AIO LGA 4677 liquid coolers.
8475B = 350W this is correct, but the MS73 supports (officialy) 2x 270W not 2x 350W like the X13DEI
also 2x 8475B is offered with X13DEI but not with MS73, so i guess this does not work so far.
base is nothing saying, they run at 800mhz at idle and boost to max 3.3ghz on 24 cores or 2.5Ghz all 48 cores(nonAVX)
one ebay seller showed a screenshot of a single QYFP on asus w790 getting only around 17000 pts in Cinebench R23
Intel Xeon Sapphire Rapids QYFP ES2 D0 48C/96T 1.5Ghz 90MB 270W LGA4677 CPU | eBay
Condition is open box and in like new, working condition. This is an engineering sample (ES2) CPU. Tested on an Asus Pro WS W790-ACE and Gigabyte MS73-HB2 motherboards.These CPUs will NOT work on Supermicro and ASRock motherboards!
www.ebay.de
Another seller has two QYFQ (that seem similar to QYFO), so 2x48=96 cores, 192 treads a to get around 52000 pts. (Intel Xeon Platinum 8468 ES Server CPU lga4677 48c/96t For Gigabyte ms73-hb1 | eBay).
Those scores seem pretty disappointing to me since i get around 16000 with an 13600T with 24 threads.
Based on those scores, the QYFU or 8461V seems more interesting for a single socket board.
Some sellers are posting scores of around 52000 CB R23. and prices around 230 USD.
So i was considering that QYFU+ASUS W790 Combo for about 1000 Euro, being a pretty good bang for the buck.
But i am having doubts about air cooling 300W, compatibility and stability, since this would be my main computer for work.
Anyone having experience with the QYFU and or the Asus w790-ace or SAGE and D0 stepping?
Some people say that they are not compatible with non-W Xeons, memory issues?
I saw screenshots but who knows maybe pcie and m.2 are not working? Any one with experience on this?
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working (but only stepping D0 - cpuid 806F3)
on SAGE you need 112L CPU to support all PCIe lots and 2x M.2 PCIe from CPU. even if you run W?24xx(64 lanes) lacks full config, refer the manual for this.
sapphire rapids XCC(4 tiles) & cinebench is very sensitive about memory population and NUMA settings.
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I saw similar scores, but my question is is that really on a single socket board?
Becouse i see some sellers that post similar scores But they have a dual socket board with 2x48=96 cores, 192 threads, and then only run cinebench with half of them (you can change that in the settings). Since then, half of the cpu's are idling, the others clock way higher. That would not be representative for single board performance.
See for example here: Intel Xeon Platinum 48-core 96-threads LGA4677 Sapphire Rapids QYFP (same QYFQ) | eBay
He has a score of around 47000 but in other screenshots its possible to see that he is running it on a dual-socket system.
At least this is how i understand it, maybe i am missing something.
EDIT (after your edit)
If those screenshots are your own, also the score on the single sockets is very good, and the world makes sense again.
Thanks. That was one important thing clarified.
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Thanks, Are you using that Noctua? Because its is also the best i found so far, but some how Noctua is refusing to write any TDP ratings. So i was doubting, and trying to figure out if it is only compatible with the socket 4677 or can also really handle 300W.