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RolloZ170

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I see, i like the Asus Pro WS W790-ACE because i thought of buying a xeon platinum ES 8470 Q0KL E0 stepping for it. Not sure if that combination will work or not.
hey read my posts. D0 works, other NOT.
stepping E0 was tested, doesn't POST on W790 Ace...
 

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hey read my posts. D0 works, other NOT.
stepping E0 was tested, doesn't POST on W790 Ace...
My apologies, i should have read your posts. One last question I have- would the xeon platinum 8490H ES work with W790 chipset? I ask because that is a 60 core part.
 

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One last question I have- would the xeon platinum 8490H ES work with W790 chipset? I ask because that is a 60 core part.
QYFX work with ASUS W790 Ace and SAGE SE. (i wrote before)
don't know if ASRock WS supports it even the microcode is there.
works not with supermicro X13 W790.
all SPR XCC processors have 4 tiles each 15 cores (some disabled / spare)
 

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One last question I have- would the xeon platinum 8490H ES work with W790 chipset?
but can not understand why the 60C is so interesting for you, (except your neighbor has already a 56core part)
i would take a much much cheaper 56 core part,
this have same TDP and higher (turbo) clocks.
 

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but can not understand why the 60C is so interesting for you, (except your neighbor has already a 56core part)
i would take a much much cheaper 56 core part,
this have same TDP and higher (turbo) clocks.
You are correct, it makes more sense to get 8480 56c, i should do that.
 

scouzi

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You are correct, it makes more sense to get 8480 56c, i should do that.
It depends on the use case. 8480 doesn't have all the features enabled and some are 'on demand'. 8480 has 1 device of QAT, DLB, DSA and IAA. Others can be activated 'on demand' ( IBM style -:) ). But the 8490H has all 4 enabled. For ML tasks the 8490H is probably more value (especially if you can get an ES working).

A good point in favor of the 8480 is that the extra 4 cores you get with the 8490H are only of the low priority flavour.

 

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It depends on the use case. 8480 doesn't have all the features enabled and some are 'on demand'. 8480 has 1 device of QAT, DLB, DSA and IAA. Others can be activated 'on demand' ( IBM style -:) ). But the 8490H has all 4 enabled. For ML tasks the 8490H is probably more value (especially if you can get an ES working).

A good point in favor of the 8480 is that the extra 4 cores you get with the 8490H are only of the low priority flavour.

AMX support is not tied to on-demand so 8490 and 8480 are only a few percent apart.
 
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It depends on the use case. 8480 doesn't have all the features enabled and some are 'on demand'. 8480 has 1 device of QAT, DLB, DSA and IAA. Others can be activated 'on demand' ( IBM style -:) ). But the 8490H has all 4 enabled
we are talking here about the ES2 stepping D0 variant.
8480 ES2 QYFS: 4xQAT,DLB,DSA,IAA
8490H ES2 QYFX: no QAT, but DSA,IAX
 
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What mod needs to make on Gigabyte MS73 to run 8475B QS (350w)?

How stable and compatible is platinum 8452Y (q17y)?
 

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Hi Folks!

I'm trying to decide between a MS03-CE0 at CAD $1070 ($790 USD) or a Asus Pro WS WS790-ACE for $1180 ($875 USD) with a D0 8480+. Any tips to consider?

MS03 is more designed specifically for it while the WS790 has more consumer friendly features like sound, 10 Gbps, USB 3.2 Gen2 etc. From a future proofing point of view - what do you think is the best option?
 

RolloZ170

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MS03 is more designed specifically for it while the WS790 has more consumer friendly features like sound, 10 Gbps, USB 3.2 Gen2 etc. From a future proofing point of view - what do you think is the best option?
note that Asus Pro WS WS790-ACE supports only 4 mem.channels.(2DPC) but XMP.
edit: MS03 supports already 5th gen scalable EMR(Emerald Rapids) W790 Ace will never do,
 

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...but the 8475B QS OEM can have higher TDC like happen with the 2nd gen OEMs...
I've seen (articles dated nearly a year ago) here and here 8475B are made for Alibaba cloud used in ECS g8i offerings, presumably having QAT, DSA and IAA accelerators (no mentions of DLB)
Had a chat with ebay sellers to get it for an affordable price to homeuser but with no much of luck (although they already do go at around $1.5K+Tax a piece by now), therefore still can't get those for tests despite having dual-cpu board and x16 RDIMMs ready.
But there already are various compute research/benchmark articles for scientific purposes having references to platform specification having this CPU at core (and we can reasonably assume tests were simply done in Alibaba cloud).
Also Wikipedia says here Sapphire Rapids - Wikipedia
it's 350W (not higher like with 8488C = 385W) but I'm not sure how reliable this info is.
 
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