Enterprise SSD "small deals"

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luckylinux

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Yeah that $18 figure had me re-checking my numbers for sure, but after adding what I paid for all my SSD and sold all the drives they replaced for 2-3x what I paid for them $18.09 was the total and is all inclusive including all sales tax paid, seller fee's and shipping for the drives sold.
Not a real Price then ;) . It's a "delta" / "net" / additional Price. That's not the Price you paid for the Drive by itself (unfortunately).
 

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Not a real Price then ;) . It's a "delta" / "net" / additional Price. That's not the Price you paid for the Drive by itself (unfortunately).
original purchase price I paid for all the drives that I sold, plus amount of the new drives, minus what I profit from the old drives.

total cost of ownership $18/TH
 

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original purchase price I paid for all the drives that I sold, plus amount of the new drives, minus what I profit from the old drives.
If that's how we're pricing deals then once I get around to selling the Starcitizen code that came with my $100 Optane drive I will handly beat everyone with my negative $2000/TB overall price.
 
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If that's how we're pricing deals then once I get around to selling the Starcitizen code that came with my $100 Optane drive I will handly beat everyone with my negative $2000/TB overall price.
No, No, that's not how we are pricing deals, I simply stated my TCO for all the NVME I purchased was $18/TB, and I was not talking about single drive purchases.
 
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luckylinux

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Yeah, nothing that looked like a good deal recently from my side either :(.

The only Things that were "reasonable" were some 120gb-160gb SATA SSDs for use as boot Drives that I bought a couple of months ago or so. Yeah, most of you will laugh at that as a "good deal", but if all you need is a boot drive and can't/don't want NVMe plus all the Adapters, it's not a bad solution (think Intel S3500/S3510/S3520).

That and some very cheap AM4 Motherboards + some decently priced AM4 CPUs that I think will use to convert most of my unbuffered ECC DDR4 RAM to, for use with some GPUs for LLMs that I thankfully bought a while back.

Otherwise the entire world is going to in the last Month or so ****. SSDs prices going up like a rocket. HDD prices are also crazy, even at "only" 6TB or 8TB Sizes. GPUs prices have almost doubled. CPUs also going somewhat up. DDR4 RAM prices are stable-ish but way overpriced.

Not great :rolleyes: .
 

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No activity here as of lately ?

I got this via a Email Notification today, probably only worth for those of you in the US ...

1295 USD for 5 x Toshiba PX05SRB384Y 3.84TB SAS 12gb/s open to Offer.


Around 259 USD / piece.

Not a great deal but ... decent maybe in these Times ?
I submitted an offer for $699 at work! I think that’s a good deal at that rate? (With tax about $150 usd per drive) hope it gets accepted

I had a tax free holiday in my region (US-FL) in August I wish I took advantage then!!
 
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Since this thread has devolved into a chat group, I've decided to post here rather than a new top level. Hopefully you guys will be less brutal.

I'm trying to be fair to all parties involved. I've already purchased quantity 3 for myself at less than current BIN. I should have them by this weekend. I have no relationship with the eBay seller, but I did encourage him to buy a USB to NVMe adapter to check the SMART data. I also suggested a better title. He had 5 available with $250 BIN + BO the last time I checked.

Sold ATP N651Si 1.92TB NVMe SSD Gen4x4 TLC PLP 9000TBW 100% Health 2280 m.2 85°C 2TB

I found 2 product briefs. One is from 2024 and another from 2026. Based on the serial numbers, I'd go with the 2024 specifications.

ATP is distributed by both DigiKey and Mouser. The seller said they were pulled from some Android-based equipment.
Not as modern as the above model. This one is Gen3x4.

Repeat of a previous deal back when SSDs were cheap. I must have been content with name-brand 1TB consumer SSDs for $25~$35.

Seller accepted $150 each for quantity 4. I have not received the goods and cannot vouch for the seller.

Sold ATP N600Si AF1T92STJA-JAZZ2 1.92TB NVMe SSD Gen3x4 TLC PLP 5120TBW 2280 m.2 -40~85°C

I asked the seller to ship via UPS or FedEx Ground because USPS makes mistakes with our community cluster boxes. Tracking indicates USPS. I guess I'll have to camp out near the cluster boxes on delivery day.
 
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jhartbarger

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Hasn't been many deal of late, I did snatch up a couple 15.36TB PM1733 for cheap, seller reported they were unrecognized but are 2023 built drives, appear that came from a storage array and I am guessing they just need converted to 512b. seller offers a no hassle return policy without a restocking fee so at most a $20 risk to likely get good drives but we will see on Thursday when delivered..
 
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luckylinux

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Hasn't been many deal of late, I did snatch up a couple 15.36TB PM1733 so cheap and they reported they were unrecognized but are 2023 built drives, appear that came from a storage array and I am gueessing they just need converted to 512b and they offer a no hassle return policy without a restocking fee. $20 risk to likely get good drives but we will see on thursday when delivered..
That would be the cheapest Drive in History !
 

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So the two PM1733 15.36TB drives arrived and were in visually new unused condition, seller sold both described as undetectable.1 detected just fine (5 hrs and 10TBW) and the other had a corrupted namespace (0 hrs 0TBW). Recreated name space on the one drive, updated firmware to the latest EPK9EJ5Q firmware on both drives. Performed full media scan on both drives. Not a terrible find at $500 each
 

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luckylinux

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So the two PM1733 15.36TB drives arrived and were in visually new unused condition, seller sold both described as undetectable.1 detected just fine (5 hrs and 10TBW) and the other had a corrupted namespace (0 hrs 0TBW). Recreated name space on the one drive, updated firmware to the latest EPK9EJ5Q firmware on both drives. Performed full media scan on both drives. Not a terrible find at $500 each
Didn't you say it was 20 USD ? Or that was just the Shipping and you agreed with the Seller about returning them if they didn't work ?
 

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Didn't you say it was 20 USD ? Or that was just the Shipping and you agreed with the Seller about returning them if they didn't work ?
$20 was the my estimated shipping if they were truly dead as listed and had to be returned. No need to worry about it anyway but when you find the right combination of price, return policy, and history the seller has selling items of similar nature you can score some super steals because the seller doesn't know what they are doing (usually corrupted or deleted namespaces)

ca3y6 knows what i am talking about and has scored a few steals in similar fashion if I am not mistaken.
 

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I did but not sure I would have tried at $500. Or only in my home country (UK). Also I probably would only do that with nvme. There isn't much I am aware you can do with a failed SATA or SAS SSD. Flash the firmware if you can get hold of it. Perhaps try to reformat to 512b.
 
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you can score some super steals because the seller doesn't know what they are doing (usually corrupted or deleted namespaces)
Indeed, I scored a nearly-new enterprise 1TB m.2 NVMe drive for $30 recently, just needed an nvme format to clear the corrupt namespace. Whatever disk testing software the seller included via screenshot showed a 35% rating, in case that's a consistent indication.
 

luckylinux

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I did but not sure I would have tried at $500. Or only in my home country (UK). Also I probably would only do that with nvme. There isn't much I am aware you can do with a failed SATA or SAS SSD. Flash the firmware if you can get hold of it. Perhaps try to reformat to 512b.
Well, I don't have extensive experience with NVMe but the one I have is not that great to be honest ("functioning" NVMe Drives).

Sure, People can say I'm doing something wrong etc, but:
- Ubuntu 24.04 AMD64 (Virtualized Desktop on top of Proxmox VE): with 2 x Samsung PM981 1.92TB Drives (latest Firmware) even opening a Folder and listing Files was extremely slow
- Proxmox VE 9.x (Debian Trixie) AMD64: with 2 x Micron 7300 MAX 3.2TB doing a zfs send | zfs receive locally is extremely slow (< 100 MB/s), I even had better speeds on a Network Transfer (LAN) on a 1gbps link with SATA Drives

As a Matter of Fact, now that I "upgraded" my Desktop to an AMD Ryzen 9 3900x Machine (given the current Market), I went back to a Micron 5200 ECO 1.92TB and SAMSUNG PM863a, and to be honest they feel snappier.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong, it's the same Stack of LUKS encrypted Device -> ZFS mirror both for NVMe and SATA SSDs (ashift=12).

At the same Time I have some old Crucial MX100 / Crucial MX200 / Seagate SATA SSDs that died and just won't come back to Life, so SATA is by no means perfect. Let alone those Micron 5100 3.84TB Drives that I cannot probably update the Firmware to avoid the 65k Hours Bug (original Micron, not OEM).
 

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I did but not sure I would have tried at $500. Or only in my home country (UK). Also I probably would only do that with nvme. There isn't much I am aware you can do with a failed SATA or SAS SSD. Flash the firmware if you can get hold of it. Perhaps try to reformat to 512b.
With seller offering no hassle returns, no restocking fee, being an in-country purchase, and NVME it was worthy and successful attempt, but yeah if it wasn't a same country purchase it would prob been a no go for me as well. I concur there is very little that can be done with a failed SATA/SAS drive.


Sure, People can say I'm doing something wrong etc, but:
- Ubuntu 24.04 AMD64 (Virtualized Desktop on top of Proxmox VE): with 2 x Samsung PM981 1.92TB Drives (latest Firmware) even opening a Folder and listing Files was extremely slow
- Proxmox VE 9.x (Debian Trixie) AMD64: with 2 x Micron 7300 MAX 3.2TB doing a zfs send | zfs receive locally is extremely slow (< 100 MB/s), I even had better speeds on a Network Transfer (LAN) on a 1gbps link with SATA Drives
Something is wonky because it should not be that slow, I will assume you have done full drive tests on the 7300 Max's and you have tuned the ZFS dataset and record sizes to it's optimal configuration for the workload. Outside of an impending drive failure or free space being extremely low it should be much faster.