Enterprise SSD "small deals"

[luckylinux]

I dump on the AI companies every day. Even Supermicro sold us out, the lower end of the spectrum no longer exists, I had the eshop give me a $4000+ suggestion for a firewall, and that was before memory or storage was added, just a board, chassis, and the lowest processor in the series. All they really want to sell is now the giant AI servers that make them so much profit.

It has its downsides I believe but Banana Pi R4 + OpenWRT can be a good combo.

If you want something cheap and don't have unbuffered DDR4 already (with the given Prices), a Supermicro X10SLL-F/X10SLM-F + Xeon E3 v3 + 16-32GB DDR3 unbuffered ECC + a Quad Port Intel i350 NIC (if desired) + a dual Port Intel X710-DA2 / Mellanox ConnectX-4 LX is still great to this Day. Probably 150-250 EUR including everything.

Or as @kapone suggested whatever is cheap out there if you only need to do "Firewall".

 

[MSameer]

X10SLL-F/X10SLM-F + Xeon E3 v3 + 16-32GB DDR3 unbuffered ECC

X10SSL is still my nas/homeserver. It's more than capable. I am moving to DDR4 era but just because I got the RAM and mobo for cheap.

The e3-1231v3 still runs basic llms on CPU only.

OTOH, one can still find 8GB DDR4 for 25 euros/$30 which is not bad for a basic firewall

 

[Cruzader]

I just took the boring route at 115/ea for a pair of sophos units (75 for unit and 40 for sfp+ module).
G3900, 8gb ddr4, 6x 1gbe, 2x sfp and 4x sfp+.

 

[Greg_E]

I just took the boring route at 115/ea for a pair of sophos units (75 for unit and 40 for sfp+ module).
G3900, 8gb ddr4, 6x 1gbe, 2x sfp and 4x sfp+.

Which specific Sophos devices do you suggest? I may want to get one for my lab to retire an old HP T620+ You can PM me if you like, that way we don't continue to mess up the deals thread. I'm running OPNsense in lab and production now, business version in production.

And maybe I just keep running my old Supermicro X11 based device, but it's getting on 10 years now and I start to worry about things after being in use for so long. In my lab it would be fine, but in production I'm not so casual. This is especially true when everything you do in a day reaches out to the web for something or another. Creative Cloud for every time to launch it, all the microslop stuff we use, Avid ProTools even if you have a USB iLok, etc. When the internet gets clogged, bad things start happening, and we've had that recently which forced an upgrade to 2gbps.

 

[Wasmachineman_NL]

≥ 3 stuks harde schrijven — Harde schijven — Marktplaats

Samsung PM1633a (model MZ-ILS3T8N) enterprise solid-state drive (SSD).Opslagcapaciteit: 3,84 TB.Interface: SAS 12 Gb/s.Formaat: 2,5 inch (SFF).Type:

www.marktplaats.nl

PM1633a 3.84TB SAS, €250 each

 

[richardm]

Looks underpriced to me: Intel D3-S4510 Series 3.84TB SATA 6Gb/s 2.5'' SSD SSDSC2KB038T8 *** Health 70%
(actually very overpriced but still underpriced relative to the... you guys understand).

 

[Fritz]

Crazy times we're living in right now.

 

[bash]

Time to pull out all the boxes from my CHIA farms lol.

 

[BackupProphet]

Crazy times we're living in right now.

It is, but also as a developer I see huge productivy increase. The AI thing is real, I can now give Claude the specification, and its usually a correct implementation that I do not need to correct. Writing code has become 10-1000x cheaper, this will impact everything.

 

[MBastian]

It is, but also as a developer I see huge productivy increase. The AI thing is real, I can now give Claude the specification, and its usually a correct implementation that I do not need to correct. Writing code has become 10-1000x cheaper, this will impact everything.

For an experienced developer, sure. For some dude who does know nothing and stops the moment it seems to be working it's dangerous. Let’s see where this goes once the big AI companies are forced to deliver on their investments. Right now it's still like we're getting free drugs at the corner.

 

[Fritz]

There's talk of the AI bubble bursting. I think it's going to happen and it will make the dot com bubble look like child's play.

 

[kapone]

and its usually a correct implementation that I do not need to correct

See...that is a problem. The fact that you said usually..

Hardware and Software is supposed to be deterministic. If it does something one way, it is supposed to do it the exact same way every single time. Not just sometimes.

The current incarnation of "AIs" is anything but deterministic. Yes, they can arrive at "a" solution, but until they can do it repeatedly, consistently, and arrive at the same conclusion and be able to explain why and how it came to that conclusion, it's a coin toss whether the answer is correct or not.

 

[Fritz]

The answers you get from AI depend on how you word the question. To you multiple ways may mean the same thing but to AI they are different. It seems like AI only uses key words to arrive at an answer and that doesn't always jive with the jumbled up human mind.

 

[TrevorH]

I quite like The Register's definition of the current AI implementations as "advanced predictive text".

 

[Fritz]

Yea, that pretty much describes it.

 

[nabsltd]

Let’s see where this goes once the big AI companies are forced to deliver on their investments.

I just don't see how AI software companies can possibly break even in a timely manner.

Essentially, the AI software industry would have to make much more money than Nvidia is making, because they have to pay off all the stuff they have already purchased, plus pay off the stuff they are going to purchase, and pay for power and Internet connectivity. Then, they have to make more than that, so they can make a profit to make investors happy.

This works out to about US$400-600 billion annual revenue, and assumes profits of at least 20% of revenue. This is equivalent to going from zero to Apple or Google in less than 5 years.

 

[Fritz]

The computer industry is full of dreamers and losers.

 

[TrevorH]

There are rafts of data centre builds going on at the moment to cater for the demand. Those multi billion $ builds are being done with money borrowed from banks. This looks quite similar in some ways to the property boom that went on in Spain before the 2008 financial crash. Masses of huge blocks of flats (or data centres) in various stages of completion, all unoccupied, waiting for the purchasers that never came.

 

[Wasmachineman_NL]

There are rafts of data centre builds going on at the moment to cater for the demand. Those multi billion $ builds are being done with money borrowed from banks. This looks quite similar in some ways to the property boom that went on in Spain before the 2008 financial crash. Masses of huge blocks of flats (or data centres) in various stages of completion, all unoccupied, waiting for the purchasers that never came.

look at it from the bright side: once this shit crashes (WITH NO SURVIVORS, t. Bane) the market's gonna get flooded with surplus hardware liquidated from companies that went bust.

 

[is39]

look at it from the bright side: once this shit crashes (WITH NO SURVIVORS, t. Bane) the market's gonna get flooded with surplus hardware liquidated from companies that went bust.

It's very likely that this hardware would be esoteric, power hungry and not easily adaptable to a home lab environment.
Liquid cooling is often expected.
Even parts may be not ideal, i.e. SMR drives, ZNS SSDs or 800GbE Ethernet.

--igor