Enterprise SSD "small deals"

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hmartin

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Probably not the worst deal to miss. I bought the last one and received it today and it appears to be DOA. Can't see it in BIOS, Linux (dmesg), Windows (diskmgmt.msc) or via a USB to SATA adapter. Tried multiple PCs and even taped the 3.3V pin for giggles. Nothing.

The drive I received doesn't match the serial number of the auction/CrystalDisk Info screenshots, so I contacted the seller about a return/refund.

Edit: After trying the procedure mentioned below by luckylinux (leaving the drive connected to power but not data for some time) it is recognized. Very bizarre, but seller is legit.
 
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luckylinux

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Probably not the worst deal to miss. I bought the last one and received it today and it appears to be DOA. Can't see it in BIOS, Linux (dmesg), Windows (diskmgmt.msc) or via a USB to SATA adapter. Tried multiple PCs and even taped the 3.3V pin for giggles. Nothing.

The drive I received doesn't match the serial number of the auction/CrystalDisk Info screenshots, so I contacted the seller about a return/refund.
Did you test the Drive also via an HBA such as LSI 9211-8i ?

Did you try e.g. the "Crucial Power Reset Trick" ? That was originally for Crucial Consumer SSDs, not sure if it's also applicable to Micron SSDs. Maybe they do, since they share same Flash Memory Manufacturer and likely similar Controller.

About the Serial Number, to be fair, there appears to be 2 CrystalDiskMark Screenshots, both for the same Serial Number Device (Page 1 & Page 2 basically).

Granted he could have taken a couple other Screenshots and forgot/decided to not upload them for whatever Reason (that would have brought the total to 6, unless he included the Picture of the Device with the other SSD).

I find it a bit weird to believe that you got scammed, given that the Seller has a 100% Review Rating. Sure there are probably Ways they can suppress bad Reviews by contacting eBay Customer Service and use whatever Excuse they can find, but it's probably some Mistake or he forgot to test it (maybe it was already packed and didn't wanted to unpack+repack etc).
 

luckylinux

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If you're the buyer, none of these excuses hold water.
I had my own fair Share of bad Sellers. From those that don't test, those that ship the wrong Item, pack stuff like **** (5mm cardboard anybody ?), etc.

Just saying sometimes People are lazy ;). After that, don't attribute to evil what can be attributed to incompetence.
 

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Allow me to add another. Those who ship electronics with unknown log in credentials. This one really pisses me off. More often than not seller is clueless when contacted.
 

luckylinux

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Allow me to add another. Those who ship electronics with unknown log in credentials. This one really pisses me off. More often than not seller is clueless when contacted.
I received a lot of Servers/Motherboards with unknown iRMC / IPMI Passwords. Boot Debian/Ubuntu, run IPMITOOL and reset. That's the easy Part IMHO, it takes less Time than complaining with the Seller.

Most Switches have a small Reset Hole.

I'm not sure which kind of Device you are referring to specifically that is so problematic to reset :confused: . I'm not saying I don't believe you or that it doesn't exist, but I don't think I ever came across it personally.
 

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I recently bought a Wattbox with unknown credentials. And guess watt (pun intended) resetting the device does not clear the user/PW. I contacted the seller and his reply was "You may have to purchase a device to get into it". I sent it back.

And yes, IPMI is not a problem, I can reset the PW in my sleep.
 
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luckylinux

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I have never heard of this before now. I tried it, and the drive is recognized. I would not expect this behaviour from an Enterprise SSD, but you learn something new every day!
OK, so it works now ? Weird indeed, but I thought it was worth a shot.

For the record I had a couple old Crucial MX100 and Crucial MX200 SSDs that had some Issue and in my Case it didn't work back then.

But as you see, sometimes you (or somebody else) get lucky ;) .

Check the SSD Firmware for Updates (DELL and Micron are usually quite good with this, unlike Samsung/Toshiba) then probably do a Secure Erase.

EDIT 1: how does smartctl look ? Is everything fine ? Record it both before and after a Secure Erase and/or Firmware Update just to be sure.
 
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I recently bought a Wattbox with unknown credentials. And guess watt (pun intended) resetting the device does not clear the user/PW. I contacted the seller and his reply was "You may have to purchase a device to get into it". I sent it back.

And yes, IPMI is not a problem, I can reset the PW in my sleep.
Weird indeed.

Was there CMOS Battery inside or what :oops: ? I would expect, just like BIOS, that if you unplug the Battery then it would just clear everything.

But yeah, on a Switch, the Reset button does everything. Except possibly resetting the uboot Bootloader Password, but not many Users (unless running OpenWRT) will probably need that.

If it comes to worst, you need to open and use a Serial CH341A Programmer or similar, dump the Firmware, binwalk and take a look with ghidra or something like that. Or flash a new one. But why bother, when that's not something that was agreed in advance (buying e.g. a Device "For parts or not working") for a very low bargain Price.
 
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Weird indeed.

Was there CMOS Battery inside or what :oops: ? I would expect, just like BIOS, that if you unplug the Battery then it would just clear everything.

But yeah, on a Switch, the Reset button does everything. Except possibly resetting the uboot Bootloader Password, but not many Users (unless running OpenWRT) will probably need that.

If it comes to worst, you need to open and use a Serial CH341A Programmer or similar, dump the Firmware, binwalk and take a look with ghidra or something like that. Or flash a new one. But why bother, when that's not something that was agreed in advance (buying e.g. a Device "For parts or not working") for a very low bargain Price.
Forgot to mention I did get it sorted out. I found a howto on the web that revealed the PW. I think it was https:/<ip address>/password. So much for security, lol.
 
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I received a lot of Servers/Motherboards with unknown iRMC / IPMI Passwords. Boot Debian/Ubuntu, run IPMITOOL and reset. That's the easy Part IMHO, it takes less Time than complaining with the Seller.

Most Switches have a small Reset Hole.

I'm not sure which kind of Device you are referring to specifically that is so problematic to reset :confused: . I'm not saying I don't believe you or that it doesn't exist, but I don't think I ever came across it personally.
Apple trashcan bios PW is impractical to reset, etc ;)
 

Fritz

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I suspect, that if accepted, lowball offers don't get the pick of the litter.