Enterprise SSD "small deals"

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luckylinux

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If you're the buyer, none of these excuses hold water.
I had my own fair Share of bad Sellers. From those that don't test, those that ship the wrong Item, pack stuff like **** (5mm cardboard anybody ?), etc.

Just saying sometimes People are lazy ;). After that, don't attribute to evil what can be attributed to incompetence.
 

kapone

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$4000+ suggestion for a firewall,
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My "firewall"...is still running on a $20 motherboard (Gigabyte thin mini-ITX B75TN) with an ancient i5-3570s...and handles 10gb symmetric with more than enough room to spare. I don't do IDS etc on it, but do have a couple of other things including wireguard and OpenVPN enabled on it.

All in all, maybe $50 worth of hardware.
 
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luckylinux

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Allow me to add another. Those who ship electronics with unknown log in credentials. This one really pisses me off. More often than not seller is clueless when contacted.
I received a lot of Servers/Motherboards with unknown iRMC / IPMI Passwords. Boot Debian/Ubuntu, run IPMITOOL and reset. That's the easy Part IMHO, it takes less Time than complaining with the Seller.

Most Switches have a small Reset Hole.

I'm not sure which kind of Device you are referring to specifically that is so problematic to reset :confused: . I'm not saying I don't believe you or that it doesn't exist, but I don't think I ever came across it personally.
 

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They just suggested their lowest priced bare bones server, it would have been way overkill. I spec'ed it up for a storage server and came out with about 6TB after configuration, 64gb of ram, low core count processor, and almost $10,000. And it was still SATA SSD, not even nvme. I think it was $1000 additional for a dual 10g sfp+ card so I didn't need to buy copper modules for the other end.
 

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X10SLL-F/X10SLM-F + Xeon E3 v3 + 16-32GB DDR3 unbuffered ECC
X10SSL is still my nas/homeserver. It's more than capable. I am moving to DDR4 era but just because I got the RAM and mobo for cheap.

The e3-1231v3 still runs basic llms on CPU only.

OTOH, one can still find 8GB DDR4 for 25 euros/$30 which is not bad for a basic firewall
 
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I just took the boring route at 115/ea for a pair of sophos units (75 for unit and 40 for sfp+ module).
G3900, 8gb ddr4, 6x 1gbe, 2x sfp and 4x sfp+.
 
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luckylinux

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I have never heard of this before now. I tried it, and the drive is recognized. I would not expect this behaviour from an Enterprise SSD, but you learn something new every day!
OK, so it works now ? Weird indeed, but I thought it was worth a shot.

For the record I had a couple old Crucial MX100 and Crucial MX200 SSDs that had some Issue and in my Case it didn't work back then.

But as you see, sometimes you (or somebody else) get lucky ;) .

Check the SSD Firmware for Updates (DELL and Micron are usually quite good with this, unlike Samsung/Toshiba) then probably do a Secure Erase.

EDIT 1: how does smartctl look ? Is everything fine ? Record it both before and after a Secure Erase and/or Firmware Update just to be sure.
 
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Greg_E

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I just took the boring route at 115/ea for a pair of sophos units (75 for unit and 40 for sfp+ module).
G3900, 8gb ddr4, 6x 1gbe, 2x sfp and 4x sfp+.
Which specific Sophos devices do you suggest? I may want to get one for my lab to retire an old HP T620+ You can PM me if you like, that way we don't continue to mess up the deals thread. I'm running OPNsense in lab and production now, business version in production.

And maybe I just keep running my old Supermicro X11 based device, but it's getting on 10 years now and I start to worry about things after being in use for so long. In my lab it would be fine, but in production I'm not so casual. This is especially true when everything you do in a day reaches out to the web for something or another. Creative Cloud for every time to launch it, all the microslop stuff we use, Avid ProTools even if you have a USB iLok, etc. When the internet gets clogged, bad things start happening, and we've had that recently which forced an upgrade to 2gbps.
 
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luckylinux

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I recently bought a Wattbox with unknown credentials. And guess watt (pun intended) resetting the device does not clear the user/PW. I contacted the seller and his reply was "You may have to purchase a device to get into it". I sent it back.

And yes, IPMI is not a problem, I can reset the PW in my sleep.
Weird indeed.

Was there CMOS Battery inside or what :oops: ? I would expect, just like BIOS, that if you unplug the Battery then it would just clear everything.

But yeah, on a Switch, the Reset button does everything. Except possibly resetting the uboot Bootloader Password, but not many Users (unless running OpenWRT) will probably need that.

If it comes to worst, you need to open and use a Serial CH341A Programmer or similar, dump the Firmware, binwalk and take a look with ghidra or something like that. Or flash a new one. But why bother, when that's not something that was agreed in advance (buying e.g. a Device "For parts or not working") for a very low bargain Price.
 
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It is, but also as a developer I see huge productivy increase. The AI thing is real, I can now give Claude the specification, and its usually a correct implementation that I do not need to correct. Writing code has become 10-1000x cheaper, this will impact everything.
For an experienced developer, sure. For some dude who does know nothing and stops the moment it seems to be working it's dangerous. Let’s see where this goes once the big AI companies are forced to deliver on their investments. Right now it's still like we're getting free drugs at the corner.
 

kapone

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and its usually a correct implementation that I do not need to correct
See...that is a problem. The fact that you said usually..

Hardware and Software is supposed to be deterministic. If it does something one way, it is supposed to do it the exact same way every single time. Not just sometimes.

The current incarnation of "AIs" is anything but deterministic. Yes, they can arrive at "a" solution, but until they can do it repeatedly, consistently, and arrive at the same conclusion and be able to explain why and how it came to that conclusion, it's a coin toss whether the answer is correct or not.
 

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The answers you get from AI depend on how you word the question. To you multiple ways may mean the same thing but to AI they are different. It seems like AI only uses key words to arrive at an answer and that doesn't always jive with the jumbled up human mind.
 

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Let’s see where this goes once the big AI companies are forced to deliver on their investments.
I just don't see how AI software companies can possibly break even in a timely manner.

Essentially, the AI software industry would have to make much more money than Nvidia is making, because they have to pay off all the stuff they have already purchased, plus pay off the stuff they are going to purchase, and pay for power and Internet connectivity. Then, they have to make more than that, so they can make a profit to make investors happy.

This works out to about US$400-600 billion annual revenue, and assumes profits of at least 20% of revenue. This is equivalent to going from zero to Apple or Google in less than 5 years.
 

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There are rafts of data centre builds going on at the moment to cater for the demand. Those multi billion $ builds are being done with money borrowed from banks. This looks quite similar in some ways to the property boom that went on in Spain before the 2008 financial crash. Masses of huge blocks of flats (or data centres) in various stages of completion, all unoccupied, waiting for the purchasers that never came.