Enterprise SSD "small deals"

[hmartin]

I messaged Disctech and asked why they didn't inform anyone over eBay. They replied "The message was sent with the refund. Did you get that?"

I checked, and the number of clicks it required me to view the reason was truly infuriating, absolutely user-hostile UX from eBay.





Disctech stated the reason for the refund as "Other adjustment" and there is a "Note from (my eBay username)" attached which includes the same text as the printed paper found in the package:

Thank you for your order—we truly appreciate your business. Unfortunately, it appears our database team had a brief moment of… accidental editing, which resulted in a multitude of errors in our product feeds. This caused a few items to display at prices that, while exciting, we’re unable to honor. We’ve since addressed the issue (the team is ok, but there may have been some light teasing), and we’d love the opportunity to make this right. We’ve included some of our company swag and issued a full refund. Thank you for your understanding—and for giving us the opportunity to try to make this up to you (as best we can!).

@foureight84 check your refund for any message they left.

You cannot leave negative feedback on the transaction until 7 days after the refund, at which point most people won't bother. Disctech / discountechnology know exactly what they're doing here.

To anyone who has opened a ticket with their shipping forwarder, you should send them a screenshot of the refund including the reason, which explains the package contents. If your forwarder does not help you, you should be able to claim a refund from customs for VAT, though I have no experience doing this.

 

[b3rrytech]

I've been in contact with Jetcarrier and they apparently got the package just in time to get it on the flight.. *doh*

They wanted me to send them whatever proof I had that the package doesn't contain what was previously stated. But I guess I will have to pay for shipping by air to the EU+VAT+duty+perhaps local shipping in Sweden regardless. Might get out of the local shipping if they can just throw the package away at the receiving terminal. If I'm not lucky and they somehow can change the value upon arrival. Then maybe there's no VAT and duty.

Should end up being anything from $25 to $70 depending on outcome.
EDIT: For my order of 2x $69 SAS SSDs that is.

 

[Ebax]

But I guess I will have to pay for shipping by air to the EU+VAT+duty+perhaps local shipping in Sweden regardless.

Just dont pay vat+custom duties and they have to send it pack or trash it... thats how it works in finland atleast.

 

[b3rrytech]

Just dont pay vat+custom duties and they have to send it pack or trash it... thats how it works in finland atleast.

Doesn’t work that way unfortunately when it’s ordered through a shipping forwarder, or at least Jetcarrier. They do all the importing and charge directly for it.

 

[Skinny Skeeve]

I had a similar thing happen a few months back with a different seller. I found a good price on a dual port 25gig connectx-6. They shipped me an empty box, and refunded me while it was in transit. There was absolutely no communication from the seller the whole time.

I left negative feedback. Nuts to them, they’re scamming something in the eBay ecosystem, as well as wasted my time.

 

[ano]

forwarder has received customs documents, they have sent it to customs, saying "someone decided to send me a hat for fun" doesnt work.

When I send documentation, I have agreed to their tariffs, so doing even more work, I might get some of the vat/tariffs back, but Im also required to pay a few hundred usd in work for it.

so Im paying shipping to my country, shipping here, customs work, customs rate/tariff, in addition to the currency difference on CC (refund still not received)

Not loving the hat joke.Guessing I will have to make an ebay dispute & negative feedback if they are not paying me my costs.


they should have just canceld the order, they did not. they did the worst possible thing, sent tracking, waited a few days, then refunded.

 

[hmartin]

if they are not paying me my costs.

They definitely will not do that, their liability ends when the package is delivered to the shipping forwarder.

they have sent it to customs, saying "someone decided to send me a hat for fun" doesnt work.

This is not the first time someone has scammed a buyer internationally. Any reasonable government has procedures for claiming a refund of customs/duties paid if you provide proof that the package contained worthless goods and not what you ordered. You should be able to apply for a refund. As for how long that will take and if it is worth your time, I can't say. I'm still contesting a duty levied with Tullverket 4 months later.

 

[foureight84]

I messaged Disctech and asked why they didn't inform anyone over eBay. They replied "The message was sent with the refund. Did you get that?"

I checked, and the number of clicks it required me to view the reason was truly infuriating, absolutely user-hostile UX from eBay.

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Disctech stated the reason for the refund as "Other adjustment" and there is a "Note from (my eBay username)" attached which includes the same text as the printed paper found in the package:


@foureight84 check your refund for any message they left.

You cannot leave negative feedback on the transaction until 7 days after the refund, at which point most people won't bother. Disctech / discountechnology know exactly what they're doing here.

To anyone who has opened a ticket with their shipping forwarder, you should send them a screenshot of the refund including the reason, which explains the package contents. If your forwarder does not help you, you should be able to claim a refund from customs for VAT, though I have no experience doing this.

I won't forget to leave the negative feedback about stat padding. I'm going to contact Ebay right now actually.

 

[mtg]

If this had happened to me I’d be angry enough to spend a little more time than reasonable going legally nuclear. Civil+criminal referral to the FBI for interstate fraud.

 

[foureight84]

forwarder has received customs documents, they have sent it to customs, saying "someone decided to send me a hat for fun" doesnt work.

When I send documentation, I have agreed to their tariffs, so doing even more work, I might get some of the vat/tariffs back, but Im also required to pay a few hundred usd in work for it.

so Im paying shipping to my country, shipping here, customs work, customs rate/tariff, in addition to the currency difference on CC (refund still not received)

Not loving the hat joke.Guessing I will have to make an ebay dispute & negative feedback if they are not paying me my costs.


they should have just canceld the order, they did not. they did the worst possible thing, sent tracking, waited a few days, then refunded.

I called Ebay to report the seller and I told them this very thing. They said they will be on the lookout for more reports. I told them I know people outside the US that have ordered this and are now stuck with VAT and import fees for a hat.

For my package, they listed 6.7lbs as the weight. The beanie showed up.

Please reach out to eBay regarding this fraud. They don't have a direct number so you will need to chat with the AI bot and tell it to connect you to an agent. Then it will schedule an agent to call the phone number on your account. It's actually easier than a long time ago having to call an 800 number to wait in queue.

 

[Markess]

These days it seems like most drive prices fall into two categories: 1) way too high and 2) scams. I told a buddy the other day that my homelab isn't getting more SSDs anytime soon...if ever.

@hmartin , $8 for a 2TB drive...its the stuff dreams are made of .

 

[luckylinux]

The money in ransomware isn't in consumer, it is in enterprise. They have money and insurance. So do not assume these malware will be unsophisticated and unaware of common enterprise storage features. They are designed to circumvent anti-malware protections. By running enterprise hardware in a homelab, you basically makes yourself a collateral damage of an attack not designed for you.

Building barriers between machines that have no reason to talk to each others on the same network is the one way I could have made this less painful.

Usability vs security .

I could also use something like Qubes OS but to be honest I typically prefer a Debian-base (be it Debian or Ubuntu). Also KVM instead of Xen (Qubes OS uses Xen Hypervisor).

I think that would very easily get very complex though, let alone it will explode the Disk Space usage if you need a full VM for every Application.

On Desktop I use firejail but the most it does (IMHO) is to limit the access your sandbox Application has to the Folders. Like all of them have access to my /home/<user>/Downloads Folder, but only a few have access to more.

Bubblewrap would be way better but it's more complex to configure.

Running everything inside containers would also be unpractical although, if you run them as separate Users (using podman), you would effectively ensure isolation from one app to the other, in case one gets compromised.

I'm not doing that right now, but seeing e.g. cryptominers making their way into Docker Images (or e.g. React Apps in general), highlights to me that that is another Thread Vector that needs to be considered.

That's something to be mindful ... on my Container Server where I run around 40 Containers as a podman User (rootless), you already have the benefit of running rootless in case anything gets compromised. However, since Volumes are a PITA to deal with and Filesystem Permissions using subuid/subgid can be a PITA in their own right, I mostly run every container as podman User too, so one container getting compromised can compromise all other containers.

Possible Solutions (I'm currently evaluating the latter) include:

• Different unprivileged Users for each Application in one KVM Virtual Machine
• Different unprivileged LXC Containers with one podman User (unprivileged LXC + unprivileged podman)

 

[MSameer]

Not sure if this is a good deal but Intel DC P4510 1TB 2.5" U.2 SSD / SSDPE2KX010T8 (69 euros)

Intel DC P4510 1 TB 2,5" U.2 SSD / SSDPE2KX010T8 | eBay.de

Modellbezeichnung: SSDPE2KX010T8. Modellserie: DC P4510 SERIES. Sehr gut – Refurbished. Hierbei werden nicht nur Staub und Schmutz, sondern auch Aufkleber und Beschriftungen entfernt. Datenträger wie beschrieben/abgebildet.

www.ebay.de

 

[luckylinux]

Backup server should be pulling from the clients and refuse inbound connections from everything except a non-client system... management or jumphost style. That box should also never touch or be mentioned on the clients. Different subnet is good too.

I too use zfs for all my backups and windows hosts store anything important on zfs backed samba. If that's not where it is, it doesn't matter enough and won't be backed up.

Good Point about pulling vs pushing.

My thought was for backup Server to pull from Client, but not so much for security Reasons.

It just seemed easier/more logical, maybe because I wouldn't need 100 Users, cannot remember now (didn't do it yet).

 

[Arnaud]

Another decent deal from italy: SSD SAS HP 1,92 Tb. DOPE1920S5xnNMRI Server (not SATA) | eBay.de

HPE SAS 1.92TB read intensive for 89€/piece — unfortunately it's only SAS2

 

[luckylinux]

I'm still looking, being limited to one backup is profoundly stupid.

Limited to one backup in which way ?

For Block/Filesystem Level Backup you can use zfs snapshots.

For File Level Backup you can use restic, borg, rsnapshots, ... There are plenty of choices.

BackupPC / Amanda / Bacula are some older software, not sure how much I'd like to use them nowadays. Surely exposing a Samba/CIFS Server just for that is quite the Security Risk ...

Also ZFS you could create a File-based Pool, send snapshot to it, then upload your ZFS Pool (File-backed) to any cloud Storage (after encrypting it in whatever Way you prefer).

as is the fact that it's so difficult with Linux and so stupid easy with windows.

My only Issue with Linux (would be the same with Windows) is about saltstack and secrets management. That was my only big roadblock.

If you set up a User & Password manually on each End, it should be pretty easy.

Windows does plenty of stupid Stuff. So can you especially on Windows.

CLI is out of the question, tho it made be easy to code it's anything but to use. It's like groping in the dark and never really knowing if you got it right or not. Plus it's much easier to destroy your data with cli than it is with a gui. And typos and syntax errors will drive you insane. And finally, I'm of the opinion that it's a bad idea to put all your eggs in one basket by using backup software that uses an archive. And as for security and encryption, I don't need any of that and would rather not have to deal with it.

OK so which Backup Solution do you want, if not archive based ? Block based ? I'm not sure I follow you.

As for security/encryption, I personally encrypted all of my Servers (minus some Raspberry Pi etc whose Performance would completely tank if I did). Locallz it's one Thing, but for sure if you want to upload your backup to the Cloud ... Well, think about it .

 

[hmartin]

chat i have bad news

According to the eBay images, video, and text policy on attaching photos to feedback, I need your permission to use these photos. Would you grant me and other people who ordered these SSDs and received hats permission to use your photos for eBay reviews?

Also, has anyone else left feedback on this seller? Because it looks like eBay might be suppressing it.

 

[ano]

no, customs, forwarder etc, tried stopping it everywhere, but everything was shipped in of documents allready, so I paying full 25% vat on the sum etc, I didnt get my refund until today.

supposedly packages arrive here tomorrow.

 

[mtg]

Seriously this is criminal.

 

[ajawad]

According to the eBay images, video, and text policy on attaching photos to feedback, I need your permission to use these photos. Would you grant me and other people who ordered these SSDs and received hats permission to use your photos for eBay reviews?

Also, has anyone else left feedback on this seller? Because it looks like eBay might be suppressing it.
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yea lol

 

[luckylinux]

Did you have any lower rejected first? tempted to try some offers.

Seems crazy expensive to me .

I could get 3.84 TB for less than 100 EUR a few Months back (SATA, not NVMe though).

 

[acquacow]

Before I list, anyone interested in a bunch of samsung SM863 960GB sata SSDs? I was originally collecting them for a new NAS build, but ended up finding a good lot of Intel S3500 and S3610 1.6TB SSDs instead. I'm tempted to take slight advantage of the current price premiums

I have 10 of them, with somewhere between 300 to 900TB written. They are rated for 6,160TBW, so tons of life left.

 

[Wasmachineman_NL]

Before I list, anyone interested in a bunch of samsung SM863 960GB sata SSDs? I was originally collecting them for a new NAS build, but ended up finding a good lot of Intel S3500 and S3610 1.6TB SSDs instead. I'm tempted to take slight advantage of the current price premiums

I have 10 of them, with somewhere between 300 to 900TB written. They are rated for 6,160TBW, so tons of life left.

I sold a bunch of these, and got a pissed off buyer wanting his €900 back because he somehow got a box full of clothes afterward :skull:

Still a ridiculous incident and at this point I have no ****ing idea what happened, PostNL/DHL screw-up or a scam attempt.

 

[luckylinux]

Not just nvme, but PCIe 4. Still a bit pricey in my opinion. But forget the < $100 prices for 3.84TB. I haven't seen a deal like that in months. I am selling regularly some surplus 3.84TB SSDs and they sell at £200 in a day or two.

Yeah, it's AI Hell .

I should have bought more when I had the Chance. Well, I still need to deploy them anyways, so it's not like they are currently being used ... yet.

There is always some Parts I miss for the Server Builds, then everything drags on ... forever .

 

[richard.dzavoronok]

I sold a bunch of these, and got a pissed off buyer wanting his €900 back because he somehow got a box full of clothes afterward :skull:

Still a ridiculous incident and at this point I have no ****ing idea what happened, PostNL/DHL screw-up or a scam attempt.

Same happened to friend of mine, he sold macbook to a guy and the guy received box of shoes.
The company just shrugged off the report and did nothing of course. But the guy was very nice person and they splitted the loss 50/50.