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trumee

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I picked up a drive from this vendor. The smart data shows a power on time of 5.7 years and this,

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ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 090 090 000 Old_age Always - 49816
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 26
177 Wear_Leveling_Count 0x0013 096 096 005 Pre-fail Always - 228
179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
180 Unused_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 13055
181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
184 End-to-End_Error 0x0033 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
187 Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0032 068 057 000 Old_age Always - 32
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 068 057 000 Old_age Always - 32 (Min/Max 21/43)
195 ECC_Error_Rate 0x001a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
199 CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
202 Exception_Mode_Status 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
235 POR_Recovery_Count 0x0012 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 21
241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1022887784086
242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 3609055145700
243 SATA_Downshift_Ct 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
244 Thermal_Throttle_St 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
245 Timed_Workld_Media_Wear 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65535
246 Timed_Workld_RdWr_Ratio 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65535
247 Timed_Workld_Timer 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65535
251 NAND_Writes 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1972144652288
Is this worth keeping?
 
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jode

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I picked up a drive from this vendor. The smart data shows a power on time of 5.7 years and this,

Code:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 090 090 000 Old_age Always - 49816
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 26
177 Wear_Leveling_Count 0x0013 096 096 005 Pre-fail Always - 228
179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
180 Unused_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 13055
181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
184 End-to-End_Error 0x0033 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
187 Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0032 068 057 000 Old_age Always - 32
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 068 057 000 Old_age Always - 32 (Min/Max 21/43)
195 ECC_Error_Rate 0x001a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
199 CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
202 Exception_Mode_Status 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
235 POR_Recovery_Count 0x0012 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 21
241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1022887784086
242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 3609055145700
243 SATA_Downshift_Ct 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
244 Thermal_Throttle_St 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
245 Timed_Workld_Media_Wear 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65535
246 Timed_Workld_RdWr_Ratio 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65535
247 Timed_Workld_Timer 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65535
251 NAND_Writes 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1972144652288
Is this worth keeping?
only 26 power cycles, all fail/error counts are 0, max Temperature 43C, Used Reserved Block Count 0

... I think it's toast. You should give it to me (nobody else ;))
 
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ano

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the pm/sm are usually all good, maybe except sm863 non a? I belive it was

the firmware is easy to find, but rarely/ever need it

we have thousands of them in prod

our oldest are.. old, like literally since they came out, still got sm863 and pm863 in prod, amd lots of sm863a, pm883, sm883
 
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gregsachs

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There is ZERO Information on what that is exactly though, Picture is generic and cannot be trusted at all.

Should be a TOSHIBA PM5 I guess if the Title is correct. No Part Number provided in details and absolutely nothing except generic Description (nothing about the Drive itself).
Showed up today, Samsung PM1643a, 8600 hours and 0.12 gb read/0.221 gbw on #1, exactly the same on the other. 88 Start/stop on 1, 89 on the other. I do need to do firmware,
 

ca3y6

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I hardly have any 10 years old electronics that went bad. Not saying that older used SSD won't have marginally higher failure rates. But the benefit of buying them so cheaply is that you buy many and treat them like cattle not pet. You buy for $100-150 something that is worth north of $500 new. And I think the added redundancy more than makes up for the marginally higher failure risk.
 
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Phence

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I hardly have any 10 years old electronics that went bad. Not saying that older used SSD won't have marginally higher failure rates. But the benefit of buying them so cheaply is that you buy many and treat them like cattle not pet. You buy for $100-150 something that is worth north of $500 new. And I think the added redundancy more than makes up for the marginally higher failure risk.
This - it's called poor man's warranty. :)