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luckylinux

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I see a similar reasoning from @luckylinux. $100 isn't the market price, it's the previous low in term of great deals. I once bought a bunch of 99% health 3.84TB SATA SSD for $55 each. Doesn't mean that from now on my expectation should be that anything above $55 is overpriced.
Well, I kinda expect it now :p .
 

gregsachs

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There is ZERO Information on what that is exactly though, Picture is generic and cannot be trusted at all.

Should be a TOSHIBA PM5 I guess if the Title is correct. No Part Number provided in details and absolutely nothing except generic Description (nothing about the Drive itself).
Its a gamble, but if dead or not 12g they get returned via ebay. Worth a shot at that price.
 

luckylinux

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What makes a market price isn't the quantity one seller offloaded once, it is the price most sellers settle for on average.
Lately it looks to me pretty much like a well coordinated Cartel which Prices very similar across the Board and upwards of 150 USD for 3.84TB:rolleyes: .
 

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Intel SSD DC S3610 Series 800GB
I offered 4 @ 30 and seller counted at $40. Probably could get them at $35 each.
I recently bought 4 from a different seller for $32.50 each although those were advertised 90%+ and this seller is advertising 95%+98%.
 
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luckylinux

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isnt that a unit with deadly firmware where the update is impossible to find.
I was about to place an offer for 8 pieces but I was thinking the same:

I think it's 32k Hours Bug (which was apparently fixed in NetApp NA54 Versions that I bought a few Months ago) ...

EDIT 1: I just asked the Seller for some SMART Data / smartctl Output, not sure he will reply, but worth a Try I guess :) .
 
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luckylinux

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I am new to this life and Don't understand all the ups and downs of SSD Health.
Can someone point me to something to better understand what a 79% or below heath report might mean for the usefulness of the drive?

I see some peoples comments here about health overall but this specific drive having a 32k hour bug sounds like a major heath concern for me. ;)
Yeah because Power on Hours (Lifetime) will kill it much sooner than any Datasheet Write Endurance Rating :confused:.

For the TBs we will write to it each Year, I think these would last longer than ourselves if you trust the Manufacturer TBW / DWPD Figures o_O.
 
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I picked up a drive from this vendor. The smart data shows a power on time of 5.7 years and this,

Code:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 090 090 000 Old_age Always - 49816
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 26
177 Wear_Leveling_Count 0x0013 096 096 005 Pre-fail Always - 228
179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
180 Unused_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 13055
181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
184 End-to-End_Error 0x0033 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
187 Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0032 068 057 000 Old_age Always - 32
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 068 057 000 Old_age Always - 32 (Min/Max 21/43)
195 ECC_Error_Rate 0x001a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
199 CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
202 Exception_Mode_Status 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
235 POR_Recovery_Count 0x0012 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 21
241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1022887784086
242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 3609055145700
243 SATA_Downshift_Ct 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
244 Thermal_Throttle_St 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
245 Timed_Workld_Media_Wear 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65535
246 Timed_Workld_RdWr_Ratio 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65535
247 Timed_Workld_Timer 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65535
251 NAND_Writes 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1972144652288
Is this worth keeping?
 
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I picked up a drive from this vendor. The smart data shows a power on time of 5.7 years and this,

Code:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 090 090 000 Old_age Always - 49816
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 26
177 Wear_Leveling_Count 0x0013 096 096 005 Pre-fail Always - 228
179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
180 Unused_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 13055
181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0032 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0013 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
184 End-to-End_Error 0x0033 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
187 Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0032 068 057 000 Old_age Always - 32
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 068 057 000 Old_age Always - 32 (Min/Max 21/43)
195 ECC_Error_Rate 0x001a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
199 CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
202 Exception_Mode_Status 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
235 POR_Recovery_Count 0x0012 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 21
241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1022887784086
242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 3609055145700
243 SATA_Downshift_Ct 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
244 Thermal_Throttle_St 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
245 Timed_Workld_Media_Wear 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65535
246 Timed_Workld_RdWr_Ratio 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65535
247 Timed_Workld_Timer 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65535
251 NAND_Writes 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1972144652288
Is this worth keeping?
only 26 power cycles, all fail/error counts are 0, max Temperature 43C, Used Reserved Block Count 0

... I think it's toast. You should give it to me (nobody else ;))
 
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luckylinux

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Don’t think it’s a netapp drive
I never said that it was. I also don't think it is.

I just mentioned the NA54 Firmware as *THAT* Version (NetApp) of the Drive (with associated NA54 Firmware) that many of us bought a few Months ago seems to NOT be affected by this BUG.

This one here is a big Question, which is why I asked the Seller if he could provide such Information.

Very likely he will have all of them sold before even replying though ...

EDIT 1: although, to be fair, 32'000 Hours are only 3.65 Years, so considering these are much older than that, shouldn't that mean that it's already past 32'000 Hours by now ? It's also true that they were probably sold during quite a long Period, so not necessarily true ...
 

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the pm/sm are usually all good, maybe except sm863 non a? I belive it was

the firmware is easy to find, but rarely/ever need it

we have thousands of them in prod

our oldest are.. old, like literally since they came out, still got sm863 and pm863 in prod, amd lots of sm863a, pm883, sm883
 
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