Enterprise SSD "small deals"

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Fritz

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It's hard for me to lose the concept of spinning rust. A spinner at 60% health is totally worthless.
 

josh

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from what I can tell: 64, 64, 64, 66, 70, 70, 79, 91, 91, 95, 99, 99.

65% health calls for a discount, but not a massive one, 79%+ not really. If I had any appetite for 3.84TB SSD I would probably bid at $1300-1400.
I'd say the last 50% is a crapshoot so these 60% drives are close to death. Think sub $1k makes a little more sense, considering the 265x 3.84TB drives selling for $100 previously with much better health.
 

ca3y6

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I'd say the last 50% is a crapshoot so these 60% drives are close to death. Think sub $1k makes a little more sense, considering the 265x 3.84TB drives selling for $100 previously with much better health.
I see a similar reasoning from @luckylinux. $100 isn't the market price, it's the previous low in term of great deals. I once bought a bunch of 99% health 3.84TB SATA SSD for $55 each. Doesn't mean that from now on my expectation should be that anything above $55 is overpriced.

As for 60% being close to death, I am not sure what you base this on. Particularly given that the great majority of SSDs are bought by this audience for storing stuff, not for continuous writing, and will likely never go down more than another couple percentage point health for their remaining life.
 

luckylinux

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I see a similar reasoning from @luckylinux. $100 isn't the market price, it's the previous low in term of great deals. I once bought a bunch of 99% health 3.84TB SATA SSD for $55 each. Doesn't mean that from now on my expectation should be that anything above $55 is overpriced.
Well, I kinda expect it now :p .
 

josh

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I see a similar reasoning from @luckylinux. $100 isn't the market price, it's the previous low in term of great deals. I once bought a bunch of 99% health 3.84TB SATA SSD for $55 each. Doesn't mean that from now on my expectation should be that anything above $55 is overpriced.

As for 60% being close to death, I am not sure what you base this on. Particularly given that the great majority of SSDs are bought by this audience for storing stuff, not for continuous writing, and will likely never go down more than another couple percentage point health for their remaining life.
The difference between your $55 drives and the $100 ones is the quantity. 265 sold isn't a mispricing or a steep deal, in comparison to the 10-20 units being sold on average per listing, they should be considered the fair price and the smaller listings the outliers instead.
 

ca3y6

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The difference between your $55 drives and the $100 ones is the quantity. 265 sold isn't a mispricing or a steep deal, in comparison to the 10-20 units being sold on average per listing, they should be considered the fair price and the smaller listings the outliers instead.
What makes a market price isn't the quantity one seller offloaded once, it is the price most sellers settle for on average.
 

luckylinux

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What makes a market price isn't the quantity one seller offloaded once, it is the price most sellers settle for on average.
Lately it looks to me pretty much like a well coordinated Cartel which Prices very similar across the Board and upwards of 150 USD for 3.84TB:rolleyes: .
 

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Lately it looks to me pretty much like a well coordinated Cartel which Prices very similar across the Board and upwards of 150 USD for 3.84TB:rolleyes: .
All the large sellers are in it longterm, none of them have a incentive to drive prices down.
 

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luckylinux

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isnt that a unit with deadly firmware where the update is impossible to find.
I was about to place an offer for 8 pieces but I was thinking the same:

I think it's 32k Hours Bug (which was apparently fixed in NetApp NA54 Versions that I bought a few Months ago) ...

EDIT 1: I just asked the Seller for some SMART Data / smartctl Output, not sure he will reply, but worth a Try I guess :) .
 
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luckylinux

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I am new to this life and Don't understand all the ups and downs of SSD Health.
Can someone point me to something to better understand what a 79% or below heath report might mean for the usefulness of the drive?

I see some peoples comments here about health overall but this specific drive having a 32k hour bug sounds like a major heath concern for me. ;)
Yeah because Power on Hours (Lifetime) will kill it much sooner than any Datasheet Write Endurance Rating :confused:.

For the TBs we will write to it each Year, I think these would last longer than ourselves if you trust the Manufacturer TBW / DWPD Figures o_O.
 
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luckylinux

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Don’t think it’s a netapp drive
I never said that it was. I also don't think it is.

I just mentioned the NA54 Firmware as *THAT* Version (NetApp) of the Drive (with associated NA54 Firmware) that many of us bought a few Months ago seems to NOT be affected by this BUG.

This one here is a big Question, which is why I asked the Seller if he could provide such Information.

Very likely he will have all of them sold before even replying though ...

EDIT 1: although, to be fair, 32'000 Hours are only 3.65 Years, so considering these are much older than that, shouldn't that mean that it's already past 32'000 Hours by now ? It's also true that they were probably sold during quite a long Period, so not necessarily true ...