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klui

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the engineer told me if these drives had been sitting unpowered for a decent length of time to try grabbing a USB-SATA adapter and plug the drive in and just leave it for 60mins and then unplug and reconnect and after that the drive was working just fine and passed every test I could throw at it and ran in a ZFS pool for 6 months without issue.

Apparently the MX500 has a capacitor that will slowly drain when not powered up and it just needed to be hooked to power while it recharged.
What kind of stupid design is that?
 

jhartbarger

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What kind of stupid design is that?
I dunno but that quirk coupled with the fact if I ever actually had to RMA them I was getting QLC drives as replacements sealed the deal for me to let them go while I could still get the best capital for them.
 
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Wasmachineman_NL

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And given the inferior endurance and great number of counterfeits on ebay, I don't know that I would want to buy retail SSDs on ebay, particularly when enterprise can be so affordable.
don't need enterprise levels of endurance in a 2013 era rig that gets used a few times a month.
 

jhartbarger

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I got 2 of these today. Both were 2020 manufacture dates with 4 years of power on time. One had 2TB written and the other says 2GB...
I received my 12 drives today and all of them are 2020 April/May/June with the exception of 1 2019 November, and all have between 35,000-43,000 POH, all have POC under 100 and writes are below rounded up to closest GB or TB

4 Drives
GBW - 2, 2, 4, 131

8 Drives
TBW - 2, 2, 4, 29, 39, 164, 164, 1186(not a typo)
 

jhartbarger

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Wow that one drive put in the work. Should still have a few petabytes left though!
Yes it did.

For those of you who bought some of these I just finished testing all these drives and 10 of them fail via Scrunity for a high amount a Command Timeout errors and 2 of them get a clean bill of health. From my research there appears to be a bug in the firmware MP32 and earlier and was resolved in firmware MP33 so if you purchased some I suggest updating the firmware to MP33. Micron//Crucial Storage Executive says MP32 is the latest but it appears to not be up to date.

MP33 Firmware

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zzz111

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The Micron 7300 I got arrived with 2PB on them that's less than 10% of what they are rated for :) .
Not super related to this thread, but anyone mind sharing how they test drives after they get them? I got 2 Micron 5300 Max's a year or so back and they had 0.2 and 3.2 PBW, yes a 3PB difference from the same buyer (rated for ~24PBW). Both were literally the same POH ~19k so I have no idea what this madman was doing with them, but they both maintain ~500MB/s. I didn't think much about slowdowns because my experience with SATA SSDs has only been with new drives and in my regular use I've never noticed a significant (like >50-100MB/s) slowdown before death of consumer SATA SSDs. A drop of 10-20% even I'm fine with, but I also have one significantly worse.

I only started thinking of this now because I found one I bought is extraordinarily slow (still can return but I have data on it and I'm too lazy and the data isnt moving :confused:). It's a Samsung 863 running at 100MB/s and it had only used 5% of it's write endurance and had 34k POH. Does only PBW factor into write slowdowns or do you consider POH as well? I've never really done more than checking SMART is good. Any suggestions?
 

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Yes it did.

For those of you who bought some of these I just finished testing all these drives and 10 of them fail via Scrunity for a high amount a Command Timeout errors and 2 of them get a clean bill of health. From my research this appears to be a bug in the firmware MP32 and was resolved in firmware MP33 so if you purchased some I suggest updating the firmware which is MP33. Micron//Crucial Storage Executive says MP32 is the latest but it appears to not be up to date.

MP33 Firmware

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The lenovo Micron 5300 pro seems to be on that list as well.
 

jhartbarger

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The lenovo Micron 5300 pro seems to be on that list as well.
You are 100% correct, I just finished updating all of ones I got to MP33


Not super related to this thread, but anyone mind sharing how they test drives after they get them? I got 2 Micron 5300 Max's a year or so back and they had 0.2 and 3.2 PBW, yes a 3PB difference from the same buyer (rated for ~24PBW). Both were literally the same POH ~19k so I have no idea what this madman was doing with them, but they both maintain ~500MB/s. I didn't think much about slowdowns because my experience with SATA SSDs has only been with new drives and in my regular use I've never noticed a significant (like >50-100MB/s) slowdown before death of consumer SATA SSDs. A drop of 10-20% even I'm fine with, but I also have one significantly worse.

I only started thinking of this now because I found one I bought is extraordinarily slow (still can return but I have data on it and I'm too lazy and the data isnt moving :confused:). It's a Samsung 863 running at 100MB/s and it had only used 5% of it's write endurance and had 34k POH. Does only PBW factor into write slowdowns or do you consider POH as well? I've never really done more than checking SMART is good. Any suggestions?
I typically test mine with the manufacturers tools designed for the task and then test them using Scrutiny which provides a nice UI that shows more info than a standard SMART test.
 
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Not super related to this thread, but anyone mind sharing how they test drives after they get them? I got 2 Micron 5300 Max's a year or so back and they had 0.2 and 3.2 PBW, yes a 3PB difference from the same buyer (rated for ~24PBW). Both were literally the same POH ~19k so I have no idea what this madman was doing with them, but they both maintain ~500MB/s. I didn't think much about slowdowns because my experience with SATA SSDs has only been with new drives and in my regular use I've never noticed a significant (like >50-100MB/s) slowdown before death of consumer SATA SSDs. A drop of 10-20% even I'm fine with, but I also have one significantly worse.

I only started thinking of this now because I found one I bought is extraordinarily slow (still can return but I have data on it and I'm too lazy and the data isnt moving :confused:). It's a Samsung 863 running at 100MB/s and it had only used 5% of it's write endurance and had 34k POH. Does only PBW factor into write slowdowns or do you consider POH as well? I've never really done more than checking SMART is good. Any suggestions?
If slow, might be worth doing a TRIM, updating the firmware.

Personally I collect and monitor all my smart data centrally (I want to be notified if for instance uncorrectable errors increases, or if the health unexpectedly reduces, happened to me when I was underestimating the writes on some drives ). I also run crystaldiskmark. If it's a retail drive and I am worried about counterfeits , I attempt a full disk write.
 

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This might be a pricing error because they also have listings for the same drive (serverpartdeals) for $350 unless they're tanking the price White Label OEM SAS 12Gb/s 2.5" Enterprise SSD - 7.68TB, 15.36TB | eBay

They also have 90 day warranty from serverpartdeals and a different version with a 1 year warranty for $380. I would buy if I needed them.....but maybe I still want 2 or 4... or shit am I going to be buying 8 drives and an HBA this weekend?
 

ca3y6

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This might be a pricing error because they also have listings for the same drive (serverpartdeals) for $350 unless they're tanking the price White Label OEM SAS 12Gb/s 2.5" Enterprise SSD - 7.68TB, 15.36TB | eBay

They also have 90 day warranty from serverpartdeals and a different version with a 1 year warranty for $380. I would buy if I needed them.....but maybe I still want 2 or 4... or shit am I going to be buying 8 drives and an HBA this weekend?
there is only one at this price so your concerns about buying 8 might be premature
 

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If slow, might be worth doing a TRIM, updating the firmware.

Personally I collect and monitor all my smart data centrally (I want to be notified if for instance uncorrectable errors increases, or if the health unexpectedly reduces, happened to me when I was underestimating the writes on some drives ). I also run crystaldiskmark. If it's a retail drive and I am worried about counterfeits , I attempt a full disk write.
How do you do data monitoring and collection ? Zabbix possibly ?