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luckylinux

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Using 16x 3.84 rather than 4x 15.36 also comes with additional cost from cables/adapters to potentialy needing to replace your platform for more lanes.
Saving 15$/tb comes back to bite you if you are spending 18$/tb on a new platform and to connect them.
You can also be looking at 16x 18-25w vs 4x 16-20w
(Im usualy looking at a build for my lab with 2-3year runtime in mind)

But servers with E1.L bays is the one thing id really like to see drop in price on the used market for sure.
Sure i can connect them with a adapter to U.2 and just cable from there, but id like to slot them in a bay rather than some DIY mounting sideways behind a fan row.
(That is what ive been considering to stick 2 E1.L drives in each of my whitebox storage nodes)
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I think you forgot to mention a couple Things for your Comparison:
a. Risk Management: if 1 x 3.84TB breaks out of the 16, you lose 100 USD, if one 15.36TB breaks out of the 4, you lose 600 USD
b. Usable Capacity and of course you could Argue RAIDZ2 or RAIDZ3 for 16 (or 2 x RAIDZ2 of 8) vs Striped Mirror or RAIDZ2 of 15.36TB, you'd use 200-400 USD for Parity of the 3.84TB vs 600 USD for the 15.36 TB

Agree on Cables and Power Consumption, several smaller Drives also has Issues.

But it's not like 15.36 TB is the Perfect Solution everywhere.
 
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I guess I would end up with Split Systems for HDD and NVMe.

But IF (do NOT tempt me :p ) I would do something like that, I'd probably just put the Motherboard in an Open Frame on an Acrylic Plate or something, just to have the NVMe Drives via PCIe. A Chassis like the SuperChassis 213XAC-R1K05LP goes for 1200-1600 EUR so nope o_O.

I don't want to hijack the Thread.

Nice Build though ;)
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@luckylinux - Just for you...it does fit.

 
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I hate that some people, even if they know it's a scam, try to buy it anyway, knowing that they can get their money back, and hoping to receive the item.
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I reported it to ebay and they decided it was perfectly fine and closed the ticket. 10 sales already. Can't say I am impressed with ebay's handling of fraud. You could argue it comes out of their own pocket but it is not, it's like an insurance company, they charge you a fee on every sale for other people's fraud. And they seem to do close to nothing to reduce fraud. In fact I stopped selling with auctions when I realised half of my auction winners don't ever pay.
 
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I reported it to ebay and they decided it was perfectly fine and closed the ticket. 10 sales already. Can't say I am impressed with ebay's handling of fraud. You could argue it comes out of their own pocket but it is not, it's like an insurance company, they charge you a fee on every sale for other people's fraud. And they seem to do close to nothing to reduce fraud. In fact I stopped selling with auctions when I realised half of my auction winners don't ever pay.
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Seller probably bought it himself to boost the rating
 
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@luckylinux - Just for you...it does fit.

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Id expect the sun X7-2L to be a good starting point to DIY a full height build out of also.

If you are in the US they start round 200$ with free shipping like this one, 2 generations newer with 11 pci-e slots + 2x m.2 slots in the rear.
(i belive there is a dual m.2 flash riser option also, to get 4x m.2 slots rather than 2)
 
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Id expect the sun X7-2L to be a good starting point to DIY a full height build out of also.

If you are in the US they start round 200$ with free shipping like this one, 2 generations newer with 11 pci-e slots + 2x m.2 slots in the rear.
(i belive there is a dual m.2 flash riser option also, to get 4x m.2 slots rather than 2)
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For sure. But I don't need too much (ha!) horsepower for these nodes. They're doing SAN duties, and for now pcie 3.0 is fine. That said, now that I've modded the chassis for this sized motherboard, in the future it'll be easier to upgrade to a newer motherboard with similar layout and newer pcie versions.
 
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Nice :) .

Didn't you say you had to do a few Mods in order for it to fit ?

What about the "front" (left Side of your Picture), does it still fit the other "Part" of the Chassis ?
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It should/will. It may leave only a few mm spacing between the edge of the motherboard and the fans, but should work. Will know in a day or two (waiting for a few small parts to come in).
 
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Id expect the sun X7-2L to be a good starting point to DIY a full height build out of also.

If you are in the US they start round 200$ with free shipping like this one, 2 generations newer with 11 pci-e slots + 2x m.2 slots in the rear.
(i belive there is a dual m.2 flash riser option also, to get 4x m.2 slots rather than 2)
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What about BIOS Support ? Isn't Sun/Oracle locked down completely, maybe can only work with Sun/Oracle branded PCIe Devices, and Firmware Updates cannot be obtained at all without a very Expensive support Contract ?
 
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this one is either the deal of the century, or a mispricing, or a bad label:
10pcs SK 7.68TB HFS7T6GDUFEH-A430A VK007680KWWFQ hynix SSD HPK2 U.2 PCIE PE6011

the seller is a reputable chinese seller, this is advertised as 10x 7.68TB U.2 SSD (though a bit old) for $660, so $66 each. It is showing photos of what seems to be multiple boxes of 10 drives. However the quantity is 10 (so 10 boxes of 10, or does the seller meant to sell 10 one by one?), and the seller is also selling them individually for the same price (7.68TB SSD SK hynix PE6011 U2 PCIe VK007860KWWFQ HPK2 PE6011U2STD HFS7T6GDUFEH), so I think this seller clearly didn't mean this discount (and I almost never find great SSD deals from these reputable chinese sellers)

So I'd say a bit of a gamble. You may get the deal of the century (or at least of the year), or a cancelled order, or a bad surprise (only one drive instead of 10) with a seller you can't really return to.

So I decided not to bite myself (and I also wouldn't know what to do of those drives), though you are welcome to prove me wrong and make me hate myself!
 
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this one is either the deal of the century, or a mispricing, or a bad label:
10pcs SK 7.68TB HFS7T6GDUFEH-A430A VK007680KWWFQ hynix SSD HPK2 U.2 PCIE PE6011

the seller is a reputable chinese seller, this is advertised as 10x 7.68TB U.2 SSD (though a bit old) for $660, so $66 each. It is showing photos of what seems to be multiple boxes of 10 drives. However the quantity is 10 (so 10 boxes of 10, or does the seller meant to sell 10 one by one?), and the seller is also selling them individually for the same price (7.68TB SSD SK hynix PE6011 U2 PCIe VK007860KWWFQ HPK2 PE6011U2STD HFS7T6GDUFEH), so I think this seller clearly didn't mean this discount (and I almost never find great SSD deals from these reputable chinese sellers)

So I'd say a bit of a gamble. You may get the deal of the century (or at least of the year), or a cancelled order, or a bad surprise (only one drive instead of 10) with a seller you can't really return to.

So I decided not to bite myself, though you are welcome to prove me wrong and make me hate myself!
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When they say 10pcs I think they mean they have 10 pcs available. The Price is Per-Piece. VERY Confusing I know, but many Sellers do these write-ups.
 
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When they say 10pcs I think they mean they have 10 pcs available. The Price is Per-Piece. VERY Confusing I know, but many Sellers do these write-ups.
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10pcs normally means it's a lot of 10. I don't think these sellers would make that mistake because of bad english. My money is on mispricing (and therefore if you ask, they will likely correct it, and the remote chance they may honour their original price goes to zero).
 
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10pcs normally means it's a lot of 10. I don't think these sellers would make that mistake because of bad english. My money is on mispricing (and therefore if you ask, they will likely correct it, and the remote chance they may honour their original price goes to zero).
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I agree. But I also see from Time to Time similar listings from e.g. Germany where it's written "4 pcs" in the Title, there is a big Bigture with 4 Pieces and the whole Label / Serial Number etc, and then there is "4 Available" that you can Buy.

You can do 2 + 2 and draw your Conclusions from that ;) .

If it's a batch sometimes (but unfortunately NOT always) the Quantity indicates e.g. "4 Lots Available (4 Items per Lot)" - i.e. 16 Items in Total.

I might have gotten the exact Wording wrong, so apologizes for that, but you know what I mean.
 
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Id expect the sun X7-2L to be a good starting point to DIY a full height build out of also.

If you are in the US they start round 200$ with free shipping like this one, 2 generations newer with 11 pci-e slots + 2x m.2 slots in the rear.
(i belive there is a dual m.2 flash riser option also, to get 4x m.2 slots rather than 2)
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Woah, that’s a sexy chassis. Any chance you can put an atx board in them?
 
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