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kapone

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Woah, that’s a sexy chassis. Any chance you can put an atx board in them?
Not a chance in hell. But that is a good looking chassis.

Sun used to make great hardware, I hope Oracle is keeping that tradition up.

p.s. This is funny. The moment that chassis got posted here...sudddenly > 100 people have viewed it in the past 24 hours! I mean, it's not like it's a super great deal or anything, and given its Oracle hardware, the BIOS etc will have all sorts of shenanigans.

The STH effect is in full force on that listing! :D
 

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Tread carefully with egoodssupply
I picked up 44 of the 3.84tb SSD and check with the seller to make they was 512byte, they said yes.
Round 1 was 44x drive
23x of them was 520 byte
14x showed failed in our dell PREC cards
7x was good 512 byte disks

Round 2 was 37 drives to replace the 520 byte and failed drives
1x of them was 520 byte
8x showed failed in our dell PREC cards
28x was good 512byte

For the 9x that did not work from the 2nd round I have pending question about a refund.
 

luckylinux

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mkfs.ext4 -G 4096 -- is that true for KVM on ubuntu as well?
Not necessary IMHO.

It's really a HyperV related Issue. Otherwise your 64GB Virtual Disk on the Inside turns into a 128-192 GB File on the Host on HyperV.

You really do NOT have such Issues with KVM.
 
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Not a chance in hell. But that is a good looking chassis.

Sun used to make great hardware, I hope Oracle is keeping that tradition up.

p.s. This is funny. The moment that chassis got posted here...sudddenly > 100 people have viewed it in the past 24 hours! I mean, it's not like it's a super great deal or anything, and given its Oracle hardware, the BIOS etc will have all sorts of shenanigans.

The STH effect is in full force on that listing! :D
So I mean theoretically, if someone just really wanted that case in their rack, with use case being #1 it’s sexy #2 power on once or twice a week for backups, what issues might they run into? Assuming that person had no plans to modify hardware or firmware.

Asking for a friend.
 
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So I mean theoretically, if someone just really wanted that case in their rack, with use case being #1 it’s sexy #2 power on once or twice a week for backups, what issues might they run into? Assuming that person had no plans to modify hardware or firmware.

Asking for a friend.
 

luckylinux

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Unsure if I already mentioned it already but there is this (relisted from the one I previously bought, negotiated from 150 USD / Piece down to 100 USD / Piece, for 2 x Pieces):

Lenovo TOSHIBA 3.84TB SSD 2.5 U.2 NVMe KCM5DRUG3T84 (78% & 79%) Health - Open to Offers

 

luckylinux

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Not a great deal but maybe they will take offers. 3.84tb sas and sata $150


That SATA isn't so bad actually :).

I just grabbed 4 of these INTEL DC P4511 2TB (no more left, sorry :p ), 75 USD negotiated down to 60 USD / Piece for 2TB M.2 22110:


Just to say that it might be worth watching this Seller, some of their Offer are quite good (although I could NOT negotiate THAT much on this one, I tried and got autorejected for 40-45-50-55 then finally on the last one I got accepted at 60 USD).
 

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139/115 +25.5% VAT At 41% health?

I know the price is not bad but i like to try and maybe it will work out.
 

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41% health shouldn't really sell over $80. Those are drives that took a serious beating. They will still be useful but they can't demand the same price than 95%+ health drives (by the way, also why I didn't post them here when they showed up).
 
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luckylinux

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Any reason to pick SATA over SAS?
Lower Power Consumption and works with your onboard SATA Controller, thus no need for an extra PCIe HBA, unless your Server Motherboard has an onboard already SAS HBA Controller (e.g. LSI 3108).
 

luckylinux

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Not a great deal but maybe they will take offers. 3.84tb sas and sata $150


I offered 100 USD / Piece for 2 Pieces for the SATA (2nd Link), seller Countered with 130 USD / Piece for 2 Pieces.

A bit too much for my liking I think I'll pass on this :rolleyes: .

EDIT 1: for those interesteed, there is an older SATA Model (PM863) at the same List Price of 150 USD:


Note (for Firmware Updates Availability): it's -0003 vs the -0005 of the other Drive, so read the Topic about SED vs non-SED (in no particular Order: I always forget which is which)
 
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Well, at this point the only thing I "need" is a 2nd box to act as a secondary backup for my small amount of important data on unraid. Maybe proxmox running a TrueNAS VM for funsies since I haven't used it yet, or just a 2nd unraid server.

Which that X7-2L is about 1 billion percent overkill for. All I'd "need" to do is toss some hdd's in it. Do you know of any chassis similar in styling that wouldn't be such a power hog?
 

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similar in styling
uhh...that is a very good looking chassis...but...honestly...who cares? It's gonna sit in a rack somewhere in a corner. Just get whatever is workable for you. These custom servers use very proprietary parts, and are quite difficult to mod.
 
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HDDs are programmed to start up sequentially, via the Backplane, otherwise you WILL need a high Power PSU
That may have been true...20 years ago. I don't use staggered spin up and been running 24x HGST SAS HDDs off of a HP 460w PSU...for years. Yes, your power supply should be high quality, but you don't need to huge size it just because of HDDs.
 

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My Experience with Supermicro SC216 (for 24x2.5'' Drives) and SC826 (for 12x3.5'' Drives) is that you need to remove the redundant Power Supply and preferably get something "with Wires" instead of their golden Finger PSUs, if efficiency is your main Goal and you want to go all the Way towards that Goal.
I can agree with that. Those are the reasons I modded my Chenbro chassis to use HP PSUs. The Chenbro PSUs were junk and jet noise loud. Other than Supermicro SQ PSUs, most Supermicro PSUs are also not very efficient (due to their size/rating) and not very quiet.

The HP PSUs are whisper quiet and way more efficient than Supermicro PSUs, even though both are "platinum" rated.

 

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Most HBAs have an option to do a staggered spin-up.
Of course this is only an issue for rust drives, and not SSDs.
 

kapone

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Are those 2.5'' or 3.5'' ?

**IF** it's not an Issue all the better, but I just prefer to be a bit Cautious before recommending a low-Power PSU with that many HDDs.

Drive Inrush Current due to the startup of Motors is a Thing. Unless your PSU has excellent Overload Capability for a short while or the HDDs nowadays use a Soft Starter to start up (which I doubt, given the Space available, plus it's extra Cost for them).
3.5”

That‘s why I said, need a high quality PSU, but not necessarily oversized. Most high quality PSUs will sustain ~120% of their load for a small amount of time, but even then, I’ve yet to see an HDD consume over 20w at startup.

For 24x HDDs, that’s still just 480w.
 

luckylinux

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Who keeps buying these at these high prices man.. 265 of these were sold at only $100 just days ago
You should really start writing in a clear Way. I don't enjoy having to do Reverse Engineering on a Permanent basis.

265 of what "these" ? SAS or SATA ? Got a Link ?

None of "these" were either in this Thread or a dedicated Thread surely not for 265 Pieces ...
 

luckylinux

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There's a some slightly incorrect info here regarding the ioDrives you all have been discussing (I worked at Fusion-io/Sandisk for 7 years building high-perf storage systems).

The SX/PX/300/350 are all the same drives. Same FPGA, same firmware, etc... The only real differentiating factor is that the SX300s are on Micron NAND and SX350s were released with SanDisk NAND after they bought us. They all have slightly different warrantied marketing specs for speeds and edurances as the only real difference. The rated capacities/wear life differences are just a factor of the factory over-provisioning at the drive/driver level, which is completely user-adjustable.

The cards by default will limit themselves to 25W under write workloads if they can't get a supported wattage metric from the slot itself. You can enable PCI-e power override to support up to 75W in a proper slot, but the full-height cards max out around 55W at peak write. None of the cards will ever hit 75W.

Current linux support is best handled by using the drivers over at RemixVSL: RemixVSL

That's what I run in proxmox currently.
By the Way, do you know if these Drives support ASPM in order to let the CPU "sleep" & achieve Package C-States of PC6 or better (PC8, etc) in order to save something on Power Consumption Figures ?

Many Devices unfortunately don't support ASPM and then the CPU is stuck at Package C-State PC2 or at best PC3 ...
 

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I am not aware of anything cheaper. But I only used those direct adapters in one case where I had a U.3 only drive. I usually use cables to a backplane or to the drive directly, but that's a tad more expensive.
 

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I can agree with that. Those are the reasons I modded my Chenbro chassis to use HP PSUs. The Chenbro PSUs were junk and jet noise loud. Other than Supermicro SQ PSUs, most Supermicro PSUs are also not very efficient (due to their size/rating) and not very quiet.

The HP PSUs are whisper quiet and way more efficient than Supermicro PSUs, even though both are "platinum" rated.

Not that I'm going to do anything like this now, 'cuz I've got too many projects going ATM. BUT, I can see myself wanting/needing to know about this in the future, so best to ask while its fresh:

Which model PSUs are those (I can't make out much detail in the photos)? Are those HP PDBs? Do you maybe have the model on those as well?

Thanks for any info or insights. Sorry to everyone for taking the thread off on a tangent.
 

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Not that I'm going to do anything like this now, 'cuz I've got too many projects going ATM. BUT, I can see myself wanting/needing to know about this in the future, so best to ask while its fresh:

Which model PSUs are those (I can't make out much detail in the photos)? Are those HP PDBs? Do you maybe have the model on those as well?

Thanks for any info or insights. Sorry to everyone for taking the thread off on a tangent.
I have all of those details. Send me a message when you wanna tackle something like this and we'll talk.

Edit: These were modded like this...oh...8 years ago or so I think.