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Not the greatest but depends how much can be negotiated I guess :).

180 USD / Piece with 11 Pieces Available at the Time of this Post.

MZ-QLW3T80 Samsung PM963 Series 3.84TB MLC PCI Express 3.0 x4 NVMe 2.5-inch SSD

 
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I agree that microships aren't meant to last forever, particularly if they are mistreated. But microships in a datacentre, with stable A/C and electricity, should last a long time. What dies is typically the mechanical parts, and what overheats. I log and monitor all my drives centrally, and all my SSD in a datacenter are stable in a 35-45 celcius range. I never had a motherboard or addon card die of "natural causes", the only times it happened were the result of a manipulation. I am sure it happens, I am just saying the risk is low. And I am mostly dealing with arrays of SSD, where if one dies from time to time, not a big deal. The risk is large simultaneous failures.

The unknown to me is whether NAND cells age well.
 
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luckylinux said:
No direct Experience on Capacitors and these Enterprise Drives but IMHO an Enterprise Drive with PLP where the Capacitor aged too much "simply" means that PLP is no longer effective (either not working at all i.e. Lost Function, or for too short period of Time i.e. Degraded Function)
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The tantalum/polymer capacitors used in most enterprise drives are known for their longevity. Although they are susceptible to cracking and vibrations, they do not fail any earlier than NAND modules.
Also due to completely different internal construction against typical electrolityc caps, behaviour over time is way more predictable in terms of drifting.
While they fail - usually it goes into shorted circuit - and effectively renders drive dead, which one will notice with ease.



EDLCs/supercaps are also sometimes found, as well as more typical aluminium caps.



I don't want to hijack this thread, but it shouldn't be the case given that the oldest drives have been in use for around 10 years.
 
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ca3y6 said:
And they cancelled my order, pretending that I requested to cancel!
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That warrants the Seller being reported :mad:.

They CAN cancel the Order due to mispricing (just like you could if you win an Auction where you submitted a bit with an extra "0" / Digit, e.g. 1000 USD insted of 100 USD), so they should just state the correct Reason and be honest about it.

What they CANNOT do is to state "Customer requested to Cancel" when that's not true !
 
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luckylinux said:
That warrants the Seller being reported :mad:.

They CAN cancel the Order due to mispricing (just like you could if you win an Auction where you submitted a bit with an extra "0" / Digit, e.g. 1000 USD insted of 100 USD), so they should just state the correct Reason and be honest about it.

What they CANNOT do is to state "Customer requested to Cancel" when that's not true !
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I believe you can leave feedback, even on cancelled orders.
 
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crlt said:
I believe you can leave feedback, even on cancelled orders.
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IIRC though, do NOT state the Amount (in USD/EUR/etc) in the Comment, because I read that many Comments could be Suppressed & removed based on Seller Complaint. Just say what happened to you, that the Seller put the wrong Price up, and then canceled CLAIMING that it was you that canceled (which is a LIE).

Maybe somebody else can also comment on this, but this is what I think I read a couple Months ago at least.
 
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Micron 3.2TB 9100 Pro PCIE NVME SSD - Low Profile Bracket - 145 USD open to Offers


(IIRC correctly, I could NOT find the Firmware of Micron 9100 on their Website / Download Portal, I think only 9200 / 9300 / 9400 were there, as far as the 9000-Series is concerned - make your own Diligence)

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HGST HUSPR3232AHP301 3.2TB PCIE NVME SSD - Low Profile Bracket - 150 USD open to Offers


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SUN 3.2 TB V-NAND NVMe 2.5" SSD 7317908 | TESTED Good - 142 USD open to Offers


(not sure about Compatibility, 7317908 seems to be a Sun and/or Oracle Part Number)

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Another HGST one

HGST 3200GB Ultrastar NVMe PCIe SSD HUSPR3232AHP301 DEL50-02091-AT81DA 2CM4C - 153 USD open to Offers


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IBM 00AE991 Enterprise io3 PCIe Flash Internal SSD 3.2TB 3200GB - 104 USD open to Offers


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Sandisk Fusion io Memory SX350 3.2TB SSD CARD SDFADAMOS-3T20-SF1 LOW PROFILE - 130 USD open to Offers


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Sandisk Fusion ioMemory 3.2TB SSD Plug-in Card SDFADAMOS-3T20-SF1 High Profile - 129 USD open to Offers


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SX300 Sandisk Fusion ioMemory 3.2TB SSD SDFACAMOS-3T20-SF1 Full Height - 110 USD NOT open to Offers

 
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Does these fusion ioMemory works like normal AICs? Or software need to support it?
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Not sure what "Normal AIC" means to be honest. Does that mean that the SSD loads the generic nvme Driver, pretty much like it would load the ahci Driver, and NOT some Device specific one ? I think it requires a custom Kernel Driver from what I could gather ...

I personally tried looking for uptodate Firmware & Drivers, but Firmware Updates cannot be found easily anywhere, Drivers there seems to be a forked Driver working with Kernel 5.3 / 5.4 but don't know the Status for Linux 6.8/6.12/etc.

See my Post in the Fusion IO Thread:

User acquacow might have some further Information or Firmware available, I just asked him.

I have no direct Experience with these Drives [yet].
 
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luckylinux said:
Micron 3.2TB 9100 Pro PCIE NVME SSD - Low Profile Bracket - 145 USD open to Offers


(IIRC correctly, I could NOT find the Firmware of Micron 9100 on their Website / Download Portal, I think only 9200 / 9300 / 9400 were there, as far as the 9000-Series is concerned - make your own Diligence)

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HGST HUSPR3232AHP301 3.2TB PCIE NVME SSD - Low Profile Bracket - 150 USD open to Offers


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SUN 3.2 TB V-NAND NVMe 2.5" SSD 7317908 | TESTED Good - 142 USD open to Offers


(not sure about Compatibility, 7317908 seems to be a Sun and/or Oracle Part Number)

EDIT 1:

Another HGST one

HGST 3200GB Ultrastar NVMe PCIe SSD HUSPR3232AHP301 DEL50-02091-AT81DA 2CM4C - 153 USD open to Offers


EDIT 2:

IBM 00AE991 Enterprise io3 PCIe Flash Internal SSD 3.2TB 3200GB - 104 USD open to Offers


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Sandisk Fusion io Memory SX350 3.2TB SSD CARD SDFADAMOS-3T20-SF1 LOW PROFILE - 130 USD open to Offers


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Sandisk Fusion ioMemory 3.2TB SSD Plug-in Card SDFADAMOS-3T20-SF1 High Profile - 129 USD open to Offers


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SX300 Sandisk Fusion ioMemory 3.2TB SSD SDFACAMOS-3T20-SF1 Full Height - 110 USD NOT open to Offers

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These are working with windows, there is a driver to install. They have crazy endurance.
Should work with Linux but you need to configure and have the right hardware, I didn't manage to use it with Linux. But for windows they are ok!

I am talking about the Fusion sx350 not the Micron pro!
 
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michel333 said:
These are working with windows, there is a driver to install. They have crazy endurance.
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I gave up on Windows more than 5 Years ago so that's unfortunately not relevant for me :) .

michel333 said:
Should work with Linux but you need to configure and have the right hardware, I didn't manage to use it with Linux. But for windows they are ok!
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Have the right Hardware, as in ... having a Lenovo Workstation to flash a Lenovo branded NVMe, a Dell Workstatio to flash a Dell branded NVMe, etc ? Or what exactly do yo mean ?

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I am talking about the Fusion sx350 not the Micron pro!
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Thanks for clarifying :).
 
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