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Starting a thread where I will post "small deals" on enterprise SSDs, ie typically ebay deals with a small quantity available, and therefore wouldn't be worth a thread on its own which would be expired within minutes. I do not vouch for any of the sellers, please rely on your own due diligence on products and sellers.

starting with some Intel P4500 4TB SSD at $145: Pardon Our Interruption...
 
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ca3y6 said:
Starting a thread where I will post "small deals" on enterprise SSDs, ie typically ebay deals with a small quantity available, and therefore wouldn't be worth a thread on its own which would be expired within minutes. I do not vouch for any of the sellers, please rely on your own due diligence on products and sellers.

starting with some Intel P4500 4TB SSD at $145: Pardon Our Interruption...
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I didn't expect Seller to accept 100 USD / Piece but he did :oops: . Bought 3x.

EDIT 1: @ca3y6 Thanks for the Info

EDIT 2: not really sure how much these are "good" in terms of VM Storage (Proxmox VE), but I guess for a Desktop these should be fine :cool: .
 
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luckylinux said:
I didn't expect Seller to accept 100 USD / Piece but he did :oops: . Bought 3x.

EDIT 1: @ca3y6 Thanks for the Info

EDIT 2: not really sure how much these are "good" in terms of VM Storage (Proxmox VE), but I guess for a Desktop these should be fine :cool: .
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1.6A at 12V, sounds like those get a bit toasty in use :D
 
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1.6A at 12V, sounds like those get a bit toasty in use :D
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Read: max 10W, Write: max 20W

Find a U.2 that consumes much less. The Samsung I think it's even worse ...

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According to StorageReview it might be < 5W Idle so not bad actually if true:
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Intel SSD DC P4500 Review

The Intel SSD DC P4500 Series is part of the company’s Intel 3D NAND SSD line and is designed to handle software-defined cloud infrastructures across the multi-cloud environment, specifically to reduce server footprint. With its availability in 2.5-inch PCIe, HHHL PCIe, and “ruler” form factors...
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Almost every SSD I have is still SATA, a few SAS recently. You cannot beat SATA low Idle (& Usage) Power Consumption ...
 
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By the Way, any Idea on how it would be possible to get these installed in a 2.5'' Bay in a Desktop Chassis ?

For PCIe I bought a U.2 to PCIe x4 Adapter already, but for installing U.2 into a 2.5'' / 3.5'' Drive Caddy in a Desktop Chassis, I think the best Way would be to go with:
- Supermicro AOC-SLG3-4E2P (quite cheap on eBay)
- SFF-8611 to U.2 SFF-8639 Cable (potential Fire Hazard)

What worries me the most are the infamous MOLEX-TO-SATA Power Adapters (especially those non-crimped with Solder Joints that over Time bridge 12V and GND, resulting in Overheating and potential Fire).

I have yet to see a SFF-8611 to U.2 SFF-8639 Cable with crimped Connectors.

The 5.25'' to U.2 Adapters is relatively expensive for only a couple Drives per System. Plus Issues with Airflow.

Direct 2.5'' Bay would be VERY well cooled by the front Desktop Fans. But I don't really trust those Cables :( .

Any Alternative ?

Some References I found:
- https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...ink-interface-supermicro-aoc-slg3-4e2p.21081/
- https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/intel-8x2-5-nvme-backplane-50.44129/ (CHEAP, but I cannot seem to find a "Case" / "Enclosure" for the Backplane from Intel)
 
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If you are using a desktop chassis, you need a fan blowing air right on top of the drives, so I would advise against any closed drive enclosure. Personally I am using those internal backplane: Intel 8-Bay PCIe SAS/SATA Backplane Board P/N: H88386-251 Tested Working | eBay

You can power them with an ATX connector, or a GPU connector with an adapter. And they do both U.2 and SAS.
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That's the one I also found, but I miss the enclosure (or other Mechanical Integration) Part ...
 
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My point is that your drives will roast in the enclosure. I 3d printed something to hold the drives at the right distance, and left a big noctua fan blowing right on top of the drives.
 
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Yeah plus you minimise the problems related to PCIe signal over long cables. On the other hand you occupy a full x8 slot for a single drive. There are two drives versions. I have a noctua fan blowing over my PCIe slots, to keep SAS controllers, SSDs and 10gbe cards cool.
 
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Yeah plus you minimise the problems related to PCIe signal over long cables. On the other hand you occupy a full x8 slot for a single drive. There are two drives versions. I have a noctua fan blowing over my PCIe slots, to keep SAS controllers, SSDs and 10gbe cards cool.
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The dual Model would only work if PCIe Bifurcation is available for that PCIe Slot, right ?

In the Fractal Define R3/R4/R5(?)/XL R2 there is a 140mm Fan that can be installed just approx. where the PCIe Slot are, so that might work actually :) .
 
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luckylinux said:
What worries me the most are the infamous MOLEX-TO-SATA Power Adapters (especially those non-crimped with Solder Joints that over Time bridge 12V and GND, resulting in Overheating and potential Fire).
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Not sure which cables you are looking at, but the DiLinker/DiLiving SFF8643 to U.2 cables I'm using have the good kind of SATA power connector, I took one apart and posted a picture on here somewhere. They are real annoying to handle because the wire is stiff and there's no positive retention at the drive, so they like to become disconnected, I had to use a bunch of zip ties.
 
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My point is that your drives will roast in the enclosure. I 3d printed something to hold the drives at the right distance, and left a big noctua fan blowing right on top of the drives.
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This ^^

Other than SATA, I think almost any enterprise SSD will get hot without at least a little airflow. SAS SSDs and NVME in the m.2 format (Samsung PM953/963/983 etc.) probably won't need as much as the OPs P45001/4510, but they still need some.
 
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Not sure which cables you are looking at, but the DiLinker/DiLiving SFF8643 to U.2 cables I'm using have the good kind of SATA power connector, I took one apart and posted a picture on here somewhere. They are real annoying to handle because the wire is stiff and there's no positive retention at the drive, so they like to become disconnected, I had to use a bunch of zip ties.
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That's not an Oculink Cable though (SFF-8611)
 
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luckylinux said:
That's not an Oculink Cable though (SFF-8611)
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Right, but the same brand makes an OCuLink cable with what appears to be the same SATA power connector. Even if you bought two so you could cut one apart to verify it wasn't the known-faulty kind it would still be cheaper and easier than most other options.
 
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Right, but the same brand makes an OCuLink cable with what appears to be the same SATA power connector. Even if you bought two so you could cut one apart to verify it wasn't the known-faulty kind it would still be cheaper and easier than most other options.
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Is that a Brand on Amazon ? I cannot see it in Europe at least, just on Amazon.com (and Amazon.ca)
 
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