enterprise for use in laptop

[gefela]

I am considering using a enterprise ssd ( Toshiba HK4R / Kingston DC400 / Intel DC S3520 ) for use in a my laptop ( Lenovo Y50-70 16GB RAM ) , having read my reviews proposing the advantages of having an enterprise ssd over a consumer ssd . The main reason is having a nested esxi image ( < 21 vms ) which will perform better

The question is what do I need to be aware of when I purchase a enterprise ssd ? What will happen over a period of time when used constantly ?

Constructive comments welcome !

 

[Rand__]

There are different kinds of enterprise SSD - read centric, mixed use and write intensive.
Those have different amounts of Disk writes they can survive (minimum) before they die(0.3 DWPD to 5 or even 25 DWPD).
Write Intensive drives write data faster than read centric and are more expensive.
Mind the size and connectivity (don't get SAS)

 

[T_Minus]

Most laptops are not made for handling the heat of write intensive SSD.
The 'enterprise' geared laptop pulls I see on ebay are mostly the S3500 generations.

I'd buy a S3510 and off you go

 

[Rand__]

You know I never noticed they get warm with all the fans around the drives cages, but a very valid point

 

[gefela]

Considering that write intensive drives generate much heat , Does the Kingston DC400 fall into this category or is it a mixed use SSD ?

DC400 Solid-State Drive – 480GB–1.6TB | Kingston


http://www.thessdreview.com/featured/kingston-dc400-enterprise-ssd-review-800gb960gb/


I am looking at the Toshiba HK4R as the lowest price of the lot but it is quite difficult to find

 

[Rand__]

New or used? What size? Surprised that the Toshi is the cheapest ...

In the end I'd still look for good write IOPS with 21 active VMs - thats enough to swamp an NVMe drive even with moderate write activity per VM.
O/c less an issue if they are mostly idle, but you have not specified.

 

[gefela]

@ Rand

I am looking at a brand new Toshiba HK4R 960GB . The VMs will be at the most idle ( I might switch 10 -12 VMs at the same time )
HK4R Series | TOSHIBA Semiconductor & Storage Products | Americas

I have been looking at Newegg , thinkmate but most suppliers dont have it in stock ...

 

[Patriot]

I make modular rods starting at 10' for use with kingston drives. If you feel the need to hotplug you can add another 10' length.

 

[gefela]

@ Patriot.
I need the enterprise SSD for internal use only ( unless I misunderstood what you said )

In general , I need a enterprise SSD that would

1. Support 22 VMs over a period of time . ( A minimum of 10 might be switch on at once ) . I would recreate and delete some of these .
2.Which type of SSD would be suitable for this ( A write SSD or a mixed use SSD ) ?

These are my concerns at the moment ..

 

[i386]

No budget constraints? Intel s3710 1.2tb, the best sata ssd available on the market.

 

[Deslok]

I am considering using a enterprise ssd ( Toshiba HK4R / Kingston DC400 / Intel DC S3520 ) for use in a my laptop ( Lenovo Y50-70 16GB RAM ) , having read my reviews proposing the advantages of having an enterprise ssd over a consumer ssd . The main reason is having a nested esxi image ( < 21 vms ) which will perform better

The question is what do I need to be aware of when I purchase a enterprise ssd ? What will happen over a period of time when used constantly ?

Constructive comments welcome !

Why not upgrade the laptop to one that can handle 2 ssd's instead? you'll see more performance separating os from the vm storage than just an ssd upgrade? I know a lot of the more recent thinkpads can handle dual sata(m.2+2.5) and some nvme+sata

 

[gefela]

@Deslok

I have a HP Proliant server that can also serve the purpose of separating the os from vmware and is in the pipeline .

What I would like moving forward is a good value SSD that can use on my laptop ...

 

[Deslok]

@Deslok

I have a HP Proliant server that can also serve the purpose of separating the os from vmware and is in the pipeline .

What I would like moving forward is a good value SSD that can use on my laptop ...

The Mushkin reactor is always my "value" choice http://****/2g1M5LF
But for enterprise performance the intel s35xx and s36xx are better choices, usually not too horrible on ebay

 

[cheezehead]

Another thing to consider when looking at this scenario is most enterprise SSD's are 15mm tall and not all laptops can accept 15MM ssd's.

 

[gefela]

Just got the Toshiba HK4R
HK4R Series | TOSHIBA Semiconductor & Storage Products | Americas
It should fit my laptop exactly

 

[AJXCR]

Most laptops are not made for handling the heat of write intensive SSD.
The 'enterprise' geared laptop pulls I see on ebay are mostly the S3500 generations.

I'd buy a S3510 and off you go

Idk... I've been running a pair of 950 Pro m.2 drives in raid0 and an 850 pro in my xeon/64gb ecc Lenovo P50 for two years. When I threw the 950's in there I was expecting heat to be a huge issue, but they've withstood oil field locations/dirt/extreme heat/rain/condensation/the floorboard of my truck without missing a beat!

Maybe we're all just a bunch of worriers

 

[T_Minus]

Idk... I've been running a pair of 950 Pro m.2 drives in raid0 and an 850 pro in my xeon/64gb ecc Lenovo P50 for two years. When I threw the 950's in there I was expecting heat to be a huge issue, but they've withstood oil field locations/dirt/extreme heat/rain/condensation/the floorboard of my truck without missing a beat!

Maybe we're all just a bunch of worriers

On that note, your laptop is also not "most laptops" most are not multi-thousand dollar business/enterprise grade laptops designed for multiple m2 drives AND additional drives, I'd say your laptop is made to cool these properly

With that said though... the 950 Pro is a not an enterprise drive, and def. not a 'write intensive' one that puts off a lot of heat. (I have a 950 pro in my current workstation actually too.)

 

[AJXCR]

On that note, your laptop is also not "most laptops" most are not multi-thousand dollar business/enterprise grade laptops designed for multiple m2 drives AND additional drives, I'd say your laptop is made to cool these properly

With that said though... the 950 Pro is a not an enterprise drive, and def. not a 'write intensive' one that puts off a lot of heat. (I have a 950 pro in my current workstation actually too.)

Agreed, but there are two of them stuffed into a tiny little 2.5" drive slot with zero airflow or cooling. While they are by no means enterprise drives, I believe I recall reports of 950 pro m.2's running fairly warm.. Would you not expect a pair of high performance m.2's to run as hot or hotter than a single sata3 write intensive 2.5" enterprise drive?

The laptop was actually a smoking deal. I believe I paid <$1600 with all of the bells and whistles (less the drives of course) new from Lenovo. At the time of purchase they had a phenomenal sale running and being Lenovo they're always willing to knock a bit more off if you call and speak nicely