E-ATX/SSI-EEB MB for Dual 192 cores - AMD 9965 + MB manufacturers

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I'm desperate to find a dual AMD 9965 192 cores MB that fits in E-ATX and SSI-EEB, Actually anything that fits Silverstone Alta D1 can handle up to 15.12" x 13.2".

Supermicro, Asrock Rack, Gigabyte, Asus, are these the only MB manufacturers out there?

Supermicro: nothing.
Asrock Rack: nothing. With Asrock Rack TURIN2D16-2T I'm stuck with max dual 160 cores
Gigabyte: I know there is the MZ73-LM2 but that one is addressed separately in another post.
Asus: nothing. It seems to have stopped at EPYC Gen 4.

Is there any?
Are there more MB manufacturers?

I did ask a similar question 3 months ago, however the focus of this post is (1) only E-ATX (2) mostly on making sure I have a full list of MB manufacturers that I can keep an eye on?
 
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This is me trying not to vent.
Be More Precise! Sure, until Diamond rapids is released there is only one possible CPU generation that fits the dual 192 cores MB description but why the imho sloppy and low effort questions? Just say you need a board capable of driving two Epyc 9965s!
Stop Being Stingy For Small Stuff! Most E-ATX cases can also fit SSI-EEB and you're about to shell out 10-20k on hardware! Buy a case that can deal with the board, PSU and cooling requirements!
 
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MBastian said:
This is me trying not to vent.
Be More Precise! Sure, until Diamond rapids is released there is only one possible CPU generation that fits the dual 192 cores MB description but why the imho sloppy and low effort questions? Just say you need a board capable of driving two Epyc 9965s!
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It was in the title from the very beginning it said: 9965. And as you rightfully suggested there is only one CPU that's 192 cores. So even if it was not in the title it would still be clear, but it was in the title.

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Most E-ATX cases can also fit SSI-EEB
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Sorry I meant anything that fits E-ATX and SSI-EEB, Actually anything that fits Silverstone Alta D1 can handle up to 15.12" x 13.2"
I will update the initial question for clarity.

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you're about to shell out 10-20k on hardware! Buy a case that can deal with the board, PSU and cooling requirements!
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I don't care how expensive the case is, as long as it's a workstation case, a bit like Silverstone Alta D1.
There is no case that can deal with the board, other than the rack style made by the MB manufacturer themselves, which is not what I'm looking for.
 
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MBastian said:
sloppy and low effort questions?
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I'm a beginner in the server world, I do my research for sure and when I find nothing I check with others if they came across what I'm looking for.
I want to take most server components and used them as a workstation. Cool them properly with water.

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Buy a case that can deal with the board, PSU and cooling requirements!
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I will be happy to buy it in literally no time, like now, now, as long as it's not a rack. Do you have one in mind?
 
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fatherboard said:
I will be happy to buy it in literally no time, like now, now, as long as it's not a rack. Do you have one in mind?
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While I'm sure you're still wasting everybody's time with these nonsense threads, I'll play along for this one.


That's a 15.2" x 13.2" motherboard in a Thermaltake case that can be bought for ~$200. Yes, a few modifications were necessary to fit that motherboard into that chassis, but so what?

I'm still shaking my head at your ignorance/insistence on trying to do server stuff in non-server environments. There's reasons for different form factors, and you don't seem to get it.
 
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If i were you i would have answered @fatherboard questions only after he subscribes to your OnlyFans otherwise you are just wasting time with him.
 
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kapone said:
Thermaltake case
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Thanks. I had a look at their cases, hoping to find one that can be opened. The Alta D1 can already handle up to 15.12" x 13.2".
I'm trying to fit the likes of Supermicro H14DSG-O-CPU Motherboard 17" x 14.95" (43.18cm x 37.97cm) in any workstation case, any price, even if I need to modify it. No problem.
So if you guys have come across any case that can be opened, vertical or horizontal or whatever, and has the surface without obstacles on the side, i can keep it open and add some crazy things around it to kind of close it, if you see what I mean.
 
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This is a challenge in the industry. The new high-end chips are so big that EATX is just too small for dual-socket boards.

I always figured that what we would eventually get to is single socket DC-MHS / M-SDNO form factors, have cabled links between sockets, and then everything else broken out by MCIO connections.

Perhaps the bigger reality is that for high end CPU and/or GPU compute, the traditional ATX model is just silly at this point. Silly, with a huge ecosystem though.
 
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Patrick said:
This is a challenge in the industry. The new high-end chips are so big that EATX is just too small for dual-socket boards.

I always figured that what we would eventually get to is single socket DC-MHS / M-SDNO form factors, have cabled links between sockets, and then everything else broken out by MCIO connections.

Perhaps the bigger reality is that for high end CPU and/or GPU compute, the traditional ATX model is just silly at this point. Silly, with a huge ecosystem though.
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I don't disagree, but I also think that the days of multi socket systems may be coming to an end. When a single socket can support ~200 cores, a boatload of RAM and a proliferation of pcie lanes, multi-socket designs are questionable, other than for rare, bespoke use cases.

Case in point - Oxide Computer. A new startup trying to invade the turf of the Dells/HPs/Ciscos etc with a ground up rack scale design. Their sleds (they call them gimlets) are 2U/half width and are based on a single socket AMD CPU. In their case, they don't have any pcie slots etc (other than the u.2/u.3 connectivity to the drive sleds, but there's no reason that has to be the case.

Given that they're starting out, why didn't they go for multi socket designs? I suspect the answer may be along the lines of what's in my head, but it's just conjecture.

Their design is actually quite cool and groundbreaking. Their "motherboards" don't have any BMC/BIOS/UEFI! None zero. They designed a service processor (open source) to handle the first instruction execution - onwards. Apparently even AMD was quite amazed that their CPU ran without a BIOS/UEFI.
 
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Patrick said:
This is a challenge in the industry. The new high-end chips are so big that EATX is just too small for dual-socket boards.
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You answer made me realise I was limited between two options, none of which work for me. One available but too small, one big enough but not fit for purpose (my purpose).

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Has to be custom fabricated.
Something like: Custom Computer Case, Mountain Mods
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Your answer made me realise the way to go is to (pay a company to) make my own case. I actually didn't even know companies existed that made custom cases.

I will create a separate thread under [Chassis & Enclosures] to try to make a list of such companies, especially in Europe for myself, I need it in a couple of weeks, but also for anyone who sees it has worked for me and might be tempted if it fits his/her own purpose.
 
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