DL180 G6 12 cores !! $399 - SICK DEAL! 14 LFF RPS 8GB RAM

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mrkrad

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no kidding I thought the backplane firmware fixed that issue, what version are you on 2.20?
 

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Tempting but the backplane is SATA I so limited to 1.5Gbps (SAS 3Gbps).

Shame as I need a unit for my SSDs and haven some credit outstanding with MCP.

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FYI: The eight-bay version of the DL180 G6 uses a non-expander backplane with two SFF-8087 ports, which is good for those wanting to use SSD drives. Further, the eight-bay chassis is actually a ten-bay chassis. The two blanking plugs can be removed and replaced with standard HP drive trays - my chassis even included a SATA power cable to power them. The two extra drives don't have a backplane so they aren't hot-swap, but ten drives is better than eight. You can wire the drives to an HBA or to the motherboard, which has six SATA2 ports.
 

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My bad... I think.

Tech specs for North America list the 12 drive model as coming with a P212 and note at the botom that the P212 is limited to 1.5Gbps SATA internal.

12HDD Models HP Smart Array P212/256MB Controller (RAID 0/1/1+0/5/5+0)
Smart Array P212 Controller
Disk Drive and Enclosure Interface
3G SAS (Serial Attached SCSI)
1.5G SATA (Serial ATA)
So it is the SAS controller not the backplane. Cannot find the specs of the backplane.

Changing the SAS controller to the P410 lists it as being able to use 3Gbps SATA.

Of course there may have been a firmware update that changed the P212 to 3Gbps int but I do not know.

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FYI: The eight-bay version of the DL180 G6 uses a non-expander backplane with two SFF-8087 ports, which is good for those wanting to use SSD drives. Further, the eight-bay chassis is actually a ten-bay chassis. The two blanking plugs can be removed and replaced with standard HP drive trays - my chassis even included a SATA power cable to power them. The two extra drives don't have a backplane so they aren't hot-swap, but ten drives is better than eight. You can wire the drives to an HBA or to the motherboard, which has six SATA2 ports.
Thanks for the info. Very interesting.

RB
 

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yup if you spend $25 you can even get a P4300 G2 (lefthand) motherboard which is far superior.. No P212 i've even seen with these. P410 is internal typical build..

I consider the 8 bay model with lefthand motherboard only second to the dl380 of all hp servers..
 

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So on the 14 bay version can the HP P410 Raid controller be remove and replaced with something else like an LSI, or is it proprietary? I could survive with a new raid card and a port for an Infiniband card. But if there is just a single PCI-e slot I cant use it.

Too bad there are not more of the 12 by versions out there.....


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So on the 14 bay version can the HP P410 Raid controller be remove and replaced with something else like an LSI, or is it proprietary? I could survive with a new raid card and a port for an Infiniband card. But if there is just a single PCI-e slot I cant use it.

Too bad there are not more of the 12 by versions out there.....


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Yes. It can. Its a standard PCIe slot with a single SFF-8087 cable running back to the HBA. The expander is "friendly" to non-HP cards. I run mine with a M1015 flashed to IT mode (the P410 was removed before I bought it...).

Like all versions of HP SAS expanders, you do have to have a real HP card available if you want to flash the firmware on the backplane.
 

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Sorry I want to make absolutely sure i got this. So besides the PCIe slot the Raid controller is in, there is a 2nd PCIe I could use for an Infiniband card? Or just one PCIe slot period?




Yes. It can. Its a standard PCIe slot with a single SFF-8087 cable running back to the HBA. The expander is "friendly" to non-HP cards. I run mine with a M1015 flashed to IT mode (the P410 was removed before I bought it...).
 

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There is an x16 slot and 2 x8 slots and 1 x4 slot!

but the 2 drive bays sit on top of the (2x8,1x4) slot.

Are you creative?
 

Toddh

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Thanks for the clarification. Would rather not get create for the application I am purchasing these. Given that only 1 PCIe slot is accessible I guess I will have to keep looking as I need at least 2.


There is an x16 slot and 2 x8 slots and 1 x4 slot!

but the 2 drive bays sit on top of the (2x8,1x4) slot.

Are you creative?
 

mrkrad

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well you need a raid controller to connect to the sas expander and there is none on the motherboard (SAS controller) so I'm guessing the RAID CONTROLLER - not included means just that.

This dude does custom listings for whatever you need however. Just ask and they usually will make you a listing.
 

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Yes. It can. Its a standard PCIe slot with a single SFF-8087 cable running back to the HBA. The expander is "friendly" to non-HP cards. I run mine with a M1015 flashed to IT mode (the P410 was removed before I bought it...).
Hello, just wanting to confirm, something there seems to be different comments around HBA / Expanders / Sata drives.
The DL180 G6 with 14 LFF, has a bulit in expander in the backplane so using it with LSI 9211-81 and Napp-IT / OmniOS / OI, and Hitachi, Ultrastars 3GB drives is OK, or stick with the 8 LFF backplane ( buy used 8ff cage and backplane and swap out the 14LFF).. I guess similar comment re the SE3016 box which has expander,, it is due to arrive tomorrow...does the expander there work ok with LSI 9211-8i and Ultrastars?
Thank You very much for your advice..
Have to say Mr Rackables has decent shipping rates to Australia compared to some on EBAY.
Cheers PGH
PGH
 

mrkrad

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I'd find the lefthand like versions with 8 bays and no expander. They are far superior.
 

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I'd find the lefthand like versions with 8 bays and no expander. They are far superior.
8 Bays isnt enough, especially since its going to be used for VM storage and I need the extra spindles for the SAS drives. I have a 12 bay Chenbro right now that I need to pair with for redundancy.
 

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HP Proliant DL180 G6 Storage Server 2 x Six Core L5639 8GB RAM Rails 008835859909 | eBay

RAILS!!

This dude will configure it any way you want - IE want 12LFF instead? Just ask! Cool guy!

I think we can agree this deal is SICK!

Want a better motherboard? The $25 motherboard I posted above turns this into the storageworks (AKA Lefthand P4300 G2 or X1600) with full ILO2 and well not so janky bios

HP Proliant DL180 G6 Storage Server 2 x Six Core L5639 8GB RAM Rails 008835859909 | eBay
Could you put typical SATA desktop hard drives in these? Like could you fill this with cheap 4tb hard drives?
 

mrkrad

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I would not use cheap drives. get the re4 SAS for reliable storage. I run 12 2TB hitachi enterprise for D2D in raid-50 and those drives go 12 hours a day on weekdays and 12 hours (reading back to external backup) then 24/7 all weekend long for fulls. solid.