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Prophes0r

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I think 3D printing has broken into the mainstream, and Production is on the list now, even for things that could be made through other means. In the last couple months I've bought gardening and pottery gear that contained 3D printed components. A friend that works for an international railway rolling stock manufacturer told me that they now use 3D printers in their repair/refit facilities to make on-demand repair parts, especially for older equipment. He tells me that its cheaper than maintaining stockage at multiple facilities and/or shipping from central logistics facilities and/or ordering up new production runs of vacuformed, injection molded, or even fiberglass parts. My neighbor the car enthusiast and his friends 3D print parts for their cars. Not just cosmetic stuff, but also gaskets, seals, airflow, heating/cooling, etc.. 3D printing is apparently a big deal with gearheads these days.
None of this has anything to do with the material properties of a finished print.

Butter isn't 'for' making statues with, even if plenty of people choose to do it.

If people start displaying butter statues on their mantle, that doesn't somehow make butter 'for' making statues.


I have no doubt that it is less expensive to keep 3d models of rare and rarely needed parts around, so they can be printed as PART of a process to make repair parts. That is a GREAT idea.
This is no different than carving a foam model and then building a mold with it.
As a PART of the production process, it is very useful.

No one here is talking about that.

People expect to push a button and get a finished part.
And if THAT s the kind of 3d printing we are talking about, then it is prototyping , toys, and art. It is decoration.
It doesn't matter how mainstream it gets, the physical properties of the plastic/resin and the mechanical properties of the printing itself are what determine it's usefulness.

Can I make an entire sailboat out of duct tape?
Sure. But it would be a BAD sailboat and I shouldn't do it because that isn't what duct tape is 'for', and the properties of duct tape make it bad for the job.
 

luckylinux

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It gives me an instant price. (FWIW tool steel is the expensive one, and Aluminum is the same as Stainless, at least for my model.) It might be that the part you're trying to quote has anomalies they need to manually review.

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But mystery solved and I guess we were both right. I got the quote for 4 pieces because I needed 4 of these... and they do quote $30 for 1. Same for 2.Then $40 for 4.


Sorry for the misinfo. It's only $10 per piece if you get 4 of them.
Even "Only" 10 USD / Piece is almost as expensive as the NIC itself :p
 

Cruzader

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Nope.

3d printing is for art and prototyping.
Notice that that "production" is not in that short list.
It might not be on your list, but its not like its any secret or topic for debate that its used for parts production also.

Nobody is forcing you to like it or approve of it, but that does not change anything about it being used for production in a steadily increasing number of industries.
 

Prophes0r

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Don't tell the Mythbusters
Why? They both admit that it's a bad sailboat...they literally prove my point by making my point themselves.

Just because you CAN do something a particular way, doesn't automatically make it a good way to do it.

Let me take a little aside here.
I worked as a bicycle mechanic through high school and my first go at university. (Got bored. Joined the military. Different story.)
We got bikes in all the time from local kids who had done their own repairs.
Some of these kids used a ViceGrip for EVERYTHING.
Every nut looks like it was a chew toy for a particularly aggressive pooch with steel jaws.
And more often than not, the thing they brought the bike in for had NOTHING to do with them not being able to take a nut off.

To these kids, a ViceGrip was "the right" tool, because it did the job that they wanted. It took the nut off.

But a ViceGrip is very clearly NOT the right tool for that job, because it destroys anything it touches.

That doesn't mean a ViceGrip is a bad tool.
It is an AMAZING tool for doing certain things.
It just (very often) gets misused for tasks it shouldn't.

Look.
We all misuse tools.
It's going to happen.

I sometimes use a flathead screwdriver as a pry tool. (or a scraper. Or a chisel...)
I have used things as hammers that I shouldn't.
I have removed safety guards from stuff I absolutely should not have.

The thing is, I KNOW that isn't how those tools are supposed to be used.
I can account for it. I can replace things that get damaged when I do bad things.

It is okay to misuse tools...if you admit you are doing it and plan accordingly.

3d printing is the wrong tool for many MANY things.
It's fine to do those things with it...as long as you acknowledge you are using it wrong and accounting for it.

THAT is the whole point of all of my arguments here.

"But it's okay because everyone else does it" is not a valid argument.
"It's fine" is not a valid argument.
"It's gotten better" is not a valid argument.

If you are making anything other than a prototype, art, or a toy you are probably misusing a 3d printer.
Heck, if you are using PET at all you are definitely misusing it, but that is a WHOLE different argument.
 

luckylinux

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As much as i print a bit of basic stuff like this myself due to wait times to order it, to order it metal 3d printed when they are available in packs cheaper is somewhat facinating.
For the single Port I couldn't find it to be honest though, neither on Aliexpress nor on eBay ...
 
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