CWWK i5-1235U 6 port i226 report

[newabc]

There's a new bios update of 2023-06-08. Google translate says power optimization and apparently still a bloody version. Perhaps beta? Some words have special meanings in google translate. Like brush means flash.

The meaning of "鸡血" ("chicken blood" if they were translated character by character) in Chinese slang, as what I know, is a little bit near to CPU over-clocking in computer DIY but not a real over-clock in practice, like performance outbreak but keeping the frequencies in the range of the spec sheets of all the parts, CPU, motherboard, RAM, etc.

 

[mickee]

I'm really no ChatGPT person really, but i asked it translate the changelog of the latest bios update which it translated to:

Ventoy v12 U-P series, updated on June 8, 2023 - Improved power parameters and fixed buzzing sound from the inductor. This version is still the 'Chicken Blood' version.

I then submitted the following prompt:

is really "chicken blood" the correct translation?

To which it replied:

Apologies for any confusion. The term "chicken blood" is a colloquialism commonly used in Chinese to describe something as highly energetic, powerful, or invigorating. In this context, it refers to the mentioned version being a highly optimized and energetic release. It may not have a direct equivalent in English, but it conveys the idea of an enhanced and dynamic version.

I don't know if it means that it's unlocked in any way or rather that it's a beta.

 

[fway]

Wow....this thing screams with pfSense 23.05 bare metal and Suricata/pfBlockerNG with large rulesets installed. I can tell it will pass about 43Gbps down or up. No external fan on it and temps are not going above 43C during 1.5 Gbps up/down tput tests with all the rulesets in place. I know Wireguard VPN will be above 8 Gbps with AES-NI CPU HW Crypto and the new IPSec-MB Crypto HW acceleration enabled in 23.05. I can tell by the CPU loads/clock speeds at lower rates. Maybe I will find out exactly soon.

i7-1265U here...

 

[MichaelW]

OK my new memory arrived (2x32GB G.Skill Ripjaws), and I've finished tweaking settings. New Passmark score for my i5-1240P...

                          PassMark PerformanceTest Linux

12th Gen Intel Core i5-1240P (x86_64)
12 cores @ 4400 MHz  |  62.5 GiB RAM
Number of Processes: 16  |  Test Iterations: 1  |  Test Duration: Medium
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
CPU Mark:                          21822
  Integer Math                     74711 Million Operations/s
  Floating Point Math              49716 Million Operations/s
  Prime Numbers                    50.7 Million Primes/s
  Sorting                          34553 Thousand Strings/s
  Encryption                       17609 MB/s
  Compression                      261203 KB/s
  CPU Single Threaded              3655 Million Operations/s
  Physics                          1123 Frames/s
  Extended Instructions (SSE)      13712 Million Matrices/s

Memory Mark:                       3307
  Database Operations              7980 Thousand Operations/s
  Memory Read Cached               32794 MB/s
  Memory Read Uncached             21167 MB/s
  Memory Write                     15817 MB/s
  Available RAM                    62492 Megabytes
  Memory Latency                   46 Nanoseconds
  Memory Threaded                  39712 MB/s
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

My first CPU Mark score, as I received the device, was 14050 (first result here). That's a ~55% increase! A big part of that increase is down to switching from the single SODIMM to dual channel, massively improved the Prime Numbers, Sorting and Physics scores.

AC Loadline = 180
TDC Current Limit = 680 (ICCMax for the i5-1240P is a bit higher at 85A)
TCC Activation Offset = 15
TCC Offset Time Window = 3 Sec
PL1 = 64000000
PL1_TAU = 28000000
PL2 = 64000000

 

[fta]

I know Wireguard VPN will be above 8 Gbps with AES-NI CPU HW Crypto and the new IPSec-MB Crypto HW acceleration enabled in 23.05.

Wireguard uses ChaCha20 so AES and IPSec acceleration will have no effect.

 

[fta]

Patiently awaiting @fta to decode the chicken blood and unlock.

I took a look at it. It's pretty clear these guys have no idea how to fix the performance in their stock BIOS. They made three changes:

1) Disable PCIE hot plug
2) Set the maximum package C state to C0/C1
3) Enable and set PL1 override to 50W

Based on 2) and 3), I think this BIOS is actually a step backwards from my unlocked BIOS. I'm not going to bother with this one.

 

[mist]

Updated BIOS with "HwP On" and @MichaelW settings.
Running on Proxmox with a opnsense VM running. Passmark for original BIOS:

12th Gen Intel Core i5-1240P (x86_64)
12 cores @ 2101 MHz  |  62.5 GiB RAM
Number of Processes: 16  |  Test Iterations: 1  |  Test Duration: Medium
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
CPU Mark:                          17403
  Integer Math                     73320 Million Operations/s
  Floating Point Math              48905 Million Operations/s
  Prime Numbers                    49.1 Million Primes/s
  Sorting                          24317 Thousand Strings/s
  Encryption                       12865 MB/s
  Compression                      175338 KB/s
  CPU Single Threaded              3607 Million Operations/s
  Physics                          1128 Frames/s
  Extended Instructions (SSE)      8512 Million Matrices/s

Memory Mark:                       3320
  Database Operations              6753 Thousand Operations/s
  Memory Read Cached               32406 MB/s
  Memory Read Uncached             20495 MB/s
  Memory Write                     15302 MB/s
  Available RAM                    46373 Megabytes
  Memory Latency                   43 Nanoseconds
  Memory Threaded                  41561 MB/s
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

After update

12th Gen Intel Core i5-1240P (x86_64)
12 cores @ 4400 MHz  |  62.5 GiB RAM
Number of Processes: 16  |  Test Iterations: 1  |  Test Duration: Medium
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
CPU Mark:                          21022
  Integer Math                     75649 Million Operations/s
  Floating Point Math              48229 Million Operations/s
  Prime Numbers                    49.3 Million Primes/s
  Sorting                          33182 Thousand Strings/s
  Encryption                       17230 MB/s
  Compression                      256301 KB/s
  CPU Single Threaded              2903 Million Operations/s
  Physics                          1142 Frames/s
  Extended Instructions (SSE)      13345 Million Matrices/s

Memory Mark:                       3092
  Database Operations              7716 Thousand Operations/s
  Memory Read Cached               26196 MB/s
  Memory Read Uncached             19100 MB/s
  Memory Write                     15064 MB/s
  Available RAM                    53019 Megabytes
  Memory Latency                   46 Nanoseconds
  Memory Threaded                  41335 MB/s
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

With a tiny fan temperature went up to 97C on one of the cores. I don't think a better fan will solve it significantly as it did not last long. On average temperature during test was around 60-70C. On idle temperature after update went up about 10C.

I am puzzled why memory performance went down?

 

[diegoweb]

Hey guys!
Can you guys tell me if this Mini PC supports this Wifi Card (to transform this Mini PC into a nice Wifi 6E AP)?

Wi-Fi 6E M.2 AE Key Module AW7916-AED - AsiaRF

AW7916-AED is a cutting-edge M.2 AW Key Module that supports Wi-Fi 6E 3000, Tri-band/DBDC and is based on Mediatek MT7916AN.

www.asiarf.com

It says it requires at least 3.3V 3A, but I can't find this info in any product page for this model.
If it does, it can make this a really powerful virtualization box (Proxmox) with Openwrt. This would be a massive upgrade for me

Thanks!

 

[weiyiaw85]

Btw want to check with you guys, which virtualisation platform you all using ? ESXI 8.0U1a or PVE8.0beta?

Esxi 8.0u1a - I had tested even I bypass (cpuUniformityHardCheckPanic=FALSE) awhile when creating VM will purple screen and hang
PVE8.0beta - just started using , not too familiar yet

Esxi 8.0 base on the research during boot up that time need to disable the Ecore ,once boot up I don't know what is the performance impact on the machine

anyone got better idea ?

 

[fta]

Btw want to check with you guys, which virtualisation platform you all using ? ESXI 8.0U1a or PVE8.0beta?

PVE 7.4 with the 6.2 kernel. Everything works great, including GPU passthrough.

 

[beisser]

PVE 7.4 with the 6.2 kernel. Everything works great, including GPU passthrough.

same here

 

[netspeedy]

Well this sucks..

Has anyone else had this issue before?

 

[diegoweb]

Well this sucks..

Has anyone else had this issue before?

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I'd say to ignore that email. I'm constantly receiving that email for many orders that I have in AliExpress and none of them are facing "unsucessful customs clearance". It's probably a bug.

Check with your local postal office what is the current situation.

 

[netspeedy]

I'd say to ignore that email. I'm constantly receiving that email for many orders that I have in AliExpress and none of them are facing "unsucessful customs clearance". It's probably a bug.

Check with your local postal office what is the current situation.

Thanks very much. This makes me feel less uneasy.

 

[Traviso]

Hi there,

I have a cwwk with i5-1235u cpu. Is there a part number for a spare power supply available, which is suggested to use ?

And is there a way to use a second m.2 ssd with this mainboard layout ?



Thanks in advance for your help!

 

[beisser]

the device should come with a mini-pcie to m.2 x1 adapter board which goes into the wifi slot.
at least my unit came with it.

you can see it on this picture (the ssd was incorrectly installed in that instead of the native x4 slot):

 

[Traviso]

I just checked the package content again. There was no mini-pcie to m.2 x1 board included. I only got 2 adapters to connect sata drives with my unit.
My ssd is installed in the native x4 slot.



In general it seems, that there are different mainboard layouts, isn't it ? Mine looks like the one, which Patrick used in his STH review of this unit.
Is that mini pcie to m.2 x1 adapter available ?

 

[ordor]

You should ask the supplier.

 

[Conjurer]

I recently bought a new power adapter to replace the Dajing that came with the package. The Dajing adapter would be perfectly fine, but still don't trust it 100%. I don't want any risk when this unit will be running 24/7.

Also installed a SSD heatsink that finally fits. I couldn't use the four rubber bands that came with it, because even then it would block the fan on the inside. I had to use double sided adhesive thermal pad and put two transparant tesa anti-slip pads on the fan. That way I'm certain the heatsink is kept at it's place.

The SSD heatsink is only 3mm in height, it's a Axagon CLR-M2L3 (EAN: 8595247905536, link to a review).



Some benchmarks, not looking at performance here, just the temperature. Left image: without the heatsink, SSD at max. 54°C. Right image: with the heatsink, SSD at max. 48°C. Difference of 6 degree Celsius, not huge but that's to be expected from a low profile heatsink. Nonetheless, I'm happy with it. At idle with the heatsink it's around 40°C, no difference vs without the heatsink. Strange. Maybe it has something to do with the ambient temperature which is kinda warm these days, between 25 and 28°C.



Based on the comments earlier (thanks for that!) I searched the Mean Well website for a power adapter that could provide 8A at minimum. After some advice from Mean Well itself and further research I came up with this power adapter: Mean Well GST120A12-R7B (EAN: 4021087029001, link to manufacturer). It's rated at 12V, 8.5A, 102W. That would be more than enough I think.
To power the CWWK unit you'll need a plug that converts R7B to P1M, like this one: Mean Well DC-PLUG-R7BF-P1M (EAN: 2050008469635, link to manufacturer).

 

[fta]

The GlobTek is the same price or cheaper and doesn't require an adapter.