Choice of Managed L3 PoE 24Port+ Switch for home with 10GB

tochnia

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Hello,

I'm looking for main switch for home which to be core of my smart home network.

Main requirements:

- Layer 3
- 24/48 Ports, with at least 12PoE ports for security cameras
- 2 or more 10GB ports for NAS/Workstations connectivity. Preferable 4x 10GB ports
- End of support for switch /latest FW version/ of switch to be not before 2020. I don't want to think always about possible security problems
- Price up to 500$ in ebay
- Not very power hungry. Up to 150Watts at 10% load.

What I need as features:
I'm looking to be able to split ports into different VLANs. Permit/Deny trafic based on source/destination MAC, source/destination IP on each port.
Allow/block ports on different ports.
Doing link aggregation of 4 ports.

GUI:
As I'm not network engineer I prefer something which have good GUI where I can do most of things, with maybe some small additions over CLI.
This is my main criteria if switches fill other requirements
Only for Cisco switches I can spend needed weeks to learn CLI at good level.

Candidates:
So here are potential candidates in my opinion:

Brocade Foundry ICX6610-48P-E - Good: 2x40GB ports, 16x 10GB ports, 528 Gbps Bad: End of Support 11.2019, Need licenses for 10GB ports and features
Brocade Foundry ICX7450-48P - Good: 2x40GB ports, 4x 10GB ports, 336 Gbps Bad: End of Support 02.2019, some features need licenses

Juniper EX4200-48P - Good: Support until 2024.06, low price Bad: Only 2 SFP+ 10GB Ports

Aruba s2500 S2500-48P - Good: Support until 01.2022, low price, 4x SFP+ 10GB Ports Bad: Last firmware is from 2019
Aruba 2920-24G-PoE+ Switch (J9727A) - Good: Support appear to be without end date so far Bad: J9731A Option card for 2xSFP+10GB Ports is more expensive than switch itself

Cisco Catalyst WS-C3850-24P-E - Good: Support until 10.2023, Industry standard CLI, Lot of guides and docs Bad: Only 2xSFP+10GB Ports /unless very expensive module is added/
Cisco Catalyst WS-C2960XR-24PD-I - Good: Support until 10.2023, Industry standard CLI, Lot of guides and docs Bad: Only 2xSFP+ 10GB Ports, less RAM/Throughput than C3850
Cisco Catalyst WS-C3850-12X48U-L LAN Base + IP Base C3850-NM-2-10G - Good : 12x10GBased + 2xSFP+ 10GB Ports, Option for even 8x10GB SFTP+ Ports, Support until 10.2023, Industry standard CLI, Lot of guides and docs Bad: More expensive than budget

Dell PowerConnect 6248P - Good: One of lowest prices Bad: Optional 4xSFP+ 10GB or 2x 10GBase-T are expensive without them switch is only 1GB, End of support 08.2020

Am I missing some other switch?
Which one would recommend based on my requirements?
 
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BShoppy

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Aruba Instant On 1930 - 24 PoE+, 4SPF+ Slots, available in 195W or 370W PoE models

Linksys LGS328MPC - 24 PoE+, 4SFP+ Slots, 410W PoE budget -Bad: Just over your $500 budget
 

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Re: Brocade: specifically, the 7k series, licenses are honor based. And on the 7450 specifically, the licensed features are high-end L3 routing stuff and MACSEC, so if you don't actually need that, no worries. 7450 hardware may be EoS, but the latest ICX firmware runs on it. The big ICX thread here (which is almost always on page 1) should answer any questions you might have (seriously, the first post and the linked documentation will cover pretty much everything)
 
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tochnia

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Re: Brocade: specifically, the 7k series, licenses are honor based. And on the 7450 specifically, the licensed features are high-end L3 routing stuff and MACSEC, so if you don't actually need that, no worries. 7450 hardware may be EoS, but the latest ICX firmware runs on it. The big ICX thread here (which is almost always on page 1) should answer any questions you might have (seriously, the first post and the linked documentation will cover pretty much everything)
So this mean for 7k series I will just get warning about missing license file, but features will still work?
Sorry I haven't faced honor based licenses until now.
Also from which hardware model you are downloading nowadays firmware to use on 7450? And is there some page which list that new firmware is tested on 7450.. as I would imagine that from some point it wouldn't work and will brick the switch.
In passed I have burned/bricked one CPU with wrong version of motherboard firmware, so want to be careful with this.

I have seen big ICX series and from there I got my attention to Brocade switches, but have to admit I haven't still read whole 340+ pages of it, as I haven't decided yet if I will to ICX route.

Can 7450 40GB rear uplink ports be used as 4x10GB with proper 40G QSFP+ To 4×10G SFP+ cable?
As I read that for 6610 this is possible only for two of rear ports.
 

bitbckt

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So this mean for 7k series I will just get warning about missing license file, but features will still work?
Sorry I haven't faced honor based licenses until now.
You simply enter a command like `license install perpetual 8x10g`, answer 'y' to the question it asks, and the licensed features are enabled. That's all there is to it.

Also from which hardware model you are downloading nowadays firmware to use on 7450? And is there some page which list that new firmware is tested on 7450.. as I would imagine that from some point it wouldn't work and will brick the switch.
Firmware and documentation is available for free download from the Ruckus support website - support.ruckuswireless.com - if you sign up for an account. Or, you can use fohdeesha's packages available on his website (linked in the mega-thread) that are simply convenient bundles with everything you need, without having to sign up for an account with Ruckus.
 
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LodeRunner

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For the honor based licensing, I believe commands will just be disabled or it may in fact tell you that the feature is license locked. The features on a 7450 requiring licensing are:
Code:
IPv4 and IPv6 dynamic routes
OSPF v2, OSPF v3 (IPv6)
PIM-SM, PIM-SSM, PIM-DM, PIM passive (IPv4/IPv6 multicast routing functionality)
PBR
Virtual Route Redundancy Protocol VRRP v3 (IPv6)
VRRP-E (IPv4, IPv6)
BGP4, BGP4+ (IPv6)
GRE
IPv6 over IPv4 tunnels
VRF (IPv4 and IPv6)
MSDP
802.1AE-MACsec
As far as reading the whole thread; realistically, for your research purposes, the first thread + reading Fohdeesha's guide page is enough to get an idea about the switches. The guides also have some relevant notes on the licensing. The specific licensing command will vary based on switch; the 7450 has module bays so the 10G ports aren't licensed (at all) whereas the 7150 and 7250 they are Ports On Demand licensing.

Official firmware and documentation downloads for the 7450 are available at Software Downloads | Ruckus Wireless Support with a free account; no support contract needed. Pretty much all of the 7k line, aside from the 7750, have the same CPU or are the same CPU family.
 
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gregsachs

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Hello,

I'm looking for main switch for home which to be core of my smart home network.

Main requirements:

- Layer 3
- 24/48 Ports, with at least 12PoE ports for security cameras
- 2 or more 10GB ports for NAS/Workstations connectivity. Preferable 4x 10GB ports
- End of support for switch /latest FW version/ of switch to be not before 2020. I don't want to think always about possible security problems
- Price up to 500$ in ebay
- Not very power hungry. Up to 150Watts at 10% load.

What I need as features:
I'm looking to be able to split ports into different VLANs. Permit/Deny trafic based on source/destination MAC, source/destination IP on each port.
Allow/block ports on different ports.
Doing link aggregation of 4 ports.

GUI:
As I'm not network engineer I prefer something which have good GUI where I can do most of things, with maybe some small additions over CLI.
This is my main criteria if switches fill other requirements
Only for Cisco switches I can spend needed weeks to learn CLI at good level.

Candidates:
So here are potential candidates in my opinion:

Brocade Foundry ICX6610-48P-E - Good: 2x40GB ports, 16x 10GB ports, 528 Gbps Bad: End of Support 11.2019, Need licenses for 10GB ports and features
Brocade Foundry ICX7450-48P - Good: 2x40GB ports, 4x 10GB ports, 336 Gbps Bad: End of Support 02.2019, some features need licenses

Juniper EX4200-48P - Good: Support until 2024.06, low price Bad: Only 2 SFP+ 10GB Ports

Aruba s2500 S2500-48P - Good: Support until 01.2022, low price, 4x SFP+ 10GB Ports Bad: Last firmware is from 2019
Aruba 2920-24G-PoE+ Switch (J9727A) - Good: Support appear to be without end date so far Bad: J9731A Option card for 2xSFP+10GB Ports is more expensive than switch itself

Cisco Catalyst WS-C3850-24P-E - Good: Support until 10.2023, Industry standard CLI, Lot of guides and docs Bad: Only 2xSFP+10GB Ports /unless very expensive module is added/
Cisco Catalyst WS-C2960XR-24PD-I - Good: Support until 10.2023, Industry standard CLI, Lot of guides and docs Bad: Only 2xSFP+ 10GB Ports, less RAM/Throughput than C3850
Cisco Catalyst WS-C3850-12X48U-L LAN Base + IP Base C3850-NM-2-10G - Good : 12x10GBased + 2xSFP+ 10GB Ports, Option for even 8x10GB SFTP+ Ports, Support until 10.2023, Industry standard CLI, Lot of guides and docs Bad: More expensive than budget

Dell PowerConnect 6248P - Good: One of lowest prices Bad: Optional 4xSFP+ 10GB or 2x 10GBase-T are expensive without them switch is only 1GB, End of support 08.2020

Am I missing some other switch?
Which one would recommend based on my requirements?
The ICX-6450 would also work-4xSFP+ 24 or 48 gbe. Quieter and only single supply vs the 6610
 
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