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sic0048

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New member here. Just purchased the ICX 7250-24P from the Bay. I'm fed up with my Aruba 2500.
Just curious what is wrong with the Aruba 2500? I have bought several Brocade switches and have been playing with them in a "lab setting". Truth be told, I am trying to completely redo my home network (new firewall, new switches, new wireless AP, etc, etc, etc) and have been slowly building it up and testing in the "lab". That being said, I am still running an Aruba 2500 currently on the "old" network currently.

Comparatively, I think the Brocade switches (7250s) are louder and use more energy than the Aruba. I still plan on replacing the Aruba switch with them, but was just curious what is annoying you about the Aruba.
 

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Just curious what is wrong with the Aruba 2500? I have bought several Brocade switches and have been playing with them in a "lab setting". Truth be told, I am trying to completely redo my home network (new firewall, new switches, new wireless AP, etc, etc, etc) and have been slowly building it up and testing in the "lab". That being said, I am still running an Aruba 2500 currently on the "old" network currently.

Comparatively, I think the Brocade switches (7250s) are louder and use more energy than the Aruba. I still plan on replacing the Aruba switch with them, but was just curious what is annoying you about the Aruba.
I suspect a hardware issue triggered by a power surge a few weeks ago. Since then, the switch has exhibited erratic fan behavior—spinning up randomly despite no changes in network load.
Admin mode remains inaccessible despite multiple attempts, including updating to the latest firmware and performing a factory reset. Any configuration changes made through the GUI cause the switch to freeze. The same happens when attempting to log in as enable (EN) via SSH.
The unit had been running flawlessly for nearly three years before this incident

Disclaimer: I'm not a pro.
 
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Sprint8

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I had an Aruba 3500 POE for a year i spent too much money trying to get working SFP+ transceivers with no luck
 

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Worth checking if some of the other ports still work for PoE. Can't recall on the 6450 but on the 7250 each PoE controller chip powers a group of 8? ports. I had a power surge on a port that took out it's group of 8 but the other groups still worked fine.
Good call! Switched over to the next bank of ports and it does appear to be working again. Kind of annoying, but some PoE is better than no PoE I guess
 
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C9300-48UXM, C9300-24UX (or older c3850) are the ones I landed on. They are 10 dba quieter but use more power :)
Have been looking through eBay for these Cisco models - can you talk a little bit about the licensing situation with Cisco? Are licenses for the C9300-48UXM easily available without paywalls/fees etc? The big draw for the Ruckus switches was the honor based licensing (and of course @fohdeesha's public PhD thesis on these switches)
 

BoGs

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I do not use the extended features mostly use them as L2 switches, so not able to talk about those but I have an -A model so I have not stopped from doing what I want :)
 

viperk1

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how have people mounted the fan to asic heatsink? I have the replacement fans but ill need to get screws or some other way to mount
I just twistied the fan in two places - the poe board power cable and a poe board mounting screw.

Happy to report that with my switch (ICX7250-48P) in operation the temperature has stabilized at 69C mgmt, 33.5C air outlet.

I'm using 4x 10G nics, 20x 1G nics, of which 5 are using poe totalling 17W
 

viperk1

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Just curious what is wrong with the Aruba 2500? I have bought several Brocade switches and have been playing with them in a "lab setting". Truth be told, I am trying to completely redo my home network (new firewall, new switches, new wireless AP, etc, etc, etc) and have been slowly building it up and testing in the "lab". That being said, I am still running an Aruba 2500 currently on the "old" network currently.

Comparatively, I think the Brocade switches (7250s) are louder and use more energy than the Aruba. I still plan on replacing the Aruba switch with them, but was just curious what is annoying you about the Aruba.
Different reasons but I also moved from Aruba S2500 to ICX7250 just last night. After the fan mod, it's the same noise level (subjectively the brocade might be quieter in steady state, and objectively it is quieter at bootup). Mine was basically because my port needs grew more than a single 24P Aruba so I had to put my backup Aruba into production. I found these for $25 each on sale on ebay so I thought I'd just try it out. One 48P brocade used less power than 2 24P Arubas. I went from 174W to 107W (this is all my networking equipment, not just the brocade).
 
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NNate

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I think I may have fried the POE on my ICX6450-24p tonight. I wanted to re-terminate one of the ends of cables going to my POE AP. I was dumb and didn't unplug the cable from my switch and I think I shorted things out while cutting the ethernet - causing the switch to power off.

When I unplugged and then plugged in back in, I no longer have POE on over half of my ports.

show inline power:

Code:
Power Capacity:        Total is 370000 mWatts. Current Free is 370000 mWatts.

Power Allocations:     Requests Honored 0 times


Port    Admin     Oper    ---Power(mWatts)---  PD Type  PD Class  Pri  Fault/
         State     State   Consumed  Allocated                          Error
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  1/1/1    Off    Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/2    On     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/3    On     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/4    On     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/5    On     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/6    Off    Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/7    Off    Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/8    Off    Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/9    Off    Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/10    Off    Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/11    Off    Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/12    Off    Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/13    Off    Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/14    On     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/15 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/16    On     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/17    Off    Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/18    Off    Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/19    On     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/20    On     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/21    On     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/22    On     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/23    On     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
1/1/24    On     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total                             0          0
show inline power detail:

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Power Supply Data On stack 1:
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Power Supply Data:
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Power Supply #1:
    Max Curr:      6.8 Amps
    Voltage:       54.0 Volts
    Capacity:      370 Watts
power supply 2 is not present


POE Details Info. On Stack 1 :


General PoE Data:
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Firmware
Version
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02.1.0 Build 004



Cumulative Port State Data:
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#Ports    #Ports     #Ports   #Ports    #Ports       #Ports     #Ports
Admin-On  Admin-Off  Oper-On  Oper-Off  Off-Denied   Off-No-PD  Off-Fault
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Cumulative Port Power Data:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

#Ports  #Ports  #Ports        Power       Power
Pri: 1  Pri: 2  Pri: 3  Consumption  Allocation
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Thankfully my Wifi APs are setup on ports 1/1/2-1/1/5 and those are working fine, but nothing else is.

I upgraded the firmware and the POE firmware to the latest to see if that helps things, but no luck.

Any idea what I can do to bring things back alive? It's interesting that anything is working given the above output...
 
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kotanu

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Anyone have experience fan-modding a ICX-7150-48ZP? I searched this thread for some related terms but didn't find anything that seemed to apply to this switch.

I picked up one of these from eBay hoping to get multigig and 802.3bt for a couple of access points that are currently on injectors, plus a new network camera. Unfortunately, the switch is definitely too loud for the closet where all my network gear is. It was meant to replace a Cisco 2960X-48FPS, which is currently powering about 40W of actual PoE consumption, and I'd expect this to stay below 150W after adding the new devices. I plan to use this only as a L2 switch, with a limited number of 10gig ports in use.

The main issue for noise is the power supply fan. It's a 38x38x28 fan (Sunon PF38281BX-Q160-S99). I cracked the PSU open, and that fan perfectly fits the space available. I'm wondering if I could potentially get away with mounting a 40mm Noctua to the outside of the PSU case (ie, protruding from the back of the switch). The PSU section of this switch is separately ducted, and replacing the "main" fan looks simple enough.

Thoughts? I know there's a chassis temperature sensor, but can I monitor temperature data from the PSU as well?
 

Radius118

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So I took the plunge and ordered a couple of 7250s for a project to get connectivity to my workshop. Following Fodeesha's guides I was able to get them set up and a very basic configuration on them.

I also ordered some Mikrotik S+RJ10 SFP+ modules but I cannot get them to link. I am having the same problem as the person in this post: https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...erful-10gbe-40gbe-switching.21107/post-280488

Considering the distance I am not going to get a 10G link. However I am hoping I can pull off a 5G link or at least a 2.5G link at the minimum. I have 2 cat 6 lines buried out so I am hoping to combine these with LACP to get at least a 5G link or hopefully a 10G link. Yes I know I should have run fiber but I know a little more now than I did 12 years ago.

Will the 7250 negotiate a link slower than 10G? I have been reading this might be a problem. If so, what is the solution?

Also can anyone recommend good SFP+ modules to use? Hopefully I can return these Mikrotik modules. Is the Wiitek still a good choice or are there better options now?
 

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Yes I know I should have run fiber but I know a little more now than I did 12 years ago.
Please read up on grounding differential between your main house and workshop. It could fry your POE and switches. That is why people recommend fiber.

If so, what is the solution?
Dig a trench and put in conduit and run MTP fiber, no problems in future can get armored fiber. You did not mention the distance, but CAT6 lines 10g is about 100ft and 1/2.5/5g is about 100 feet in perfect conditions. Only if you have the module that down negotiates, never tried it myself as it uses lots of power and gets HOT.

Also can anyone recommend good SFP+ modules to use?
In all my brocade switches icx series I have always used FS modules. They have never failed and worked they are fantastic. Recommend that especialliy when they are programmed "brocade".
 

Radius118

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Please read up on grounding differential between your main house and workshop. It could fry your POE and switches. That is why people recommend fiber.

Dig a trench and put in conduit and run MTP fiber, no problems in future can get armored fiber. You did not mention the distance, but CAT6 lines 10g is about 100ft and 1/2.5/5g is about 100 feet in perfect conditions. Only if you have the module that down negotiates, never tried it myself as it uses lots of power and gets HOT.
Fortunately there is a tieback ground from the workshop to my home since the shop is powered by a subpanel from my home breaker panel. I have been running a 2G LACP connection between the 2 buildings for 12 years without a single issue.

Unfortunately Digging a new trench is not feasible as I am not willing to cut a section of concrete out of the driveway and patch it. Both for cost and cosmetic reasons. I completely understand what you are recommending and why, but I am just going to have to do the best with what I have. The distance involved is approx 150-200 feet. I'll have to re-measure the cable length and edit this post once I have done that.

In all my brocade switches icx series I have always used FS modules. They have never failed and worked they are fantastic. Recommend that especialliy when they are programmed "brocade".
Thank you for the advice. Due to the distance is it worth while to invest in the FS SFP-10G-T-100? These are expensive at $169 each. Would a less expensive SFP accomplish my goals? Do the FS modules down negotiate? Assuming I manage a 5G link does the 7250 support flow control?

Edit: According to the features comparison chart at the bottom of the product page here: https://www.fs.com/products/178031.html?attribute=95047&id=4452815 it appears that the SFP-10GM-T-30 is the only module that will auto negotiate. The 10G-T-100 supports manual configuration which I am not really sure how you would do that unless the link rate is manually set in the switch.
 
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BoGs

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RJ45 SFP modules are expensive because they create a ton of heat, RJ45 is a lot of heat which is why mGig switches have a lot of fans. You will not get away with cheap, 10g, rj45. 1g yes, but 10g doubtful. Might be easier to buy direct burial armored fiber put shovel in ground, lift a little put fiber in, all the way. Up to you.
 

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I just got an ICX7250-24P, and as many have attested, it's too loud. I'm seeing ~65dB at start up that comes down to ~55dB steady state. At idle (only OOB MGMT interface active), I have the following stats:

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SSH@icx7250-24p-router>show chassis                                                                                                                            
The stack unit 1 chassis info:                                                                                                                               

Power supply 1 (AC - PoE) present, status ok
Power supply 2 not present

Fan 1 ok, speed (auto): [[1]]<->2
Fan 2 ok, speed (auto): [[1]]<->2

Fan controlled temperature:
Rule 1/2 (MGMT THERMAL PLANE): 60.0 deg-C
Rule 2/2 (AIR OUTLET NEAR PSU): 33.5 deg-C

Fan speed switching temperature thresholds:
Rule 1/2 (MGMT THERMAL PLANE):
Speed 1: NM<-----> 93 deg-C
Speed 2: 82<----->105 deg-C (shutdown)
Rule 2/2 (AIR OUTLET NEAR PSU):
Speed 1: NM<-----> 58 deg-C
Speed 2: 49<----->105 deg-C (shutdown)

Fan 1 Air Flow Direction: Front to Back
Fan 2 Air Flow Direction: Front to Back
Slot 1 Current Temperature: 60.7 deg-C (Sensor 1), 33.0 deg-C (Sensor 2)
Slot 2 Current Temperature: NA
Warning level.......: 100.0 deg-C
        Shutdown level......: 105.0 deg-C
I'm exploring ways to make this quiet, and note that what seems to be the accepted best approach is:

* Replace Fan 1 and 2 with Delta EFB0412VHD-F00's (10.1 CFM, 0.416 inH2O, 32.5dB): total CFM=20.2
* Add a splitter and mount Fan 3 on the ASIC (60mm x 60mm x 10mm seems to fit within the 1U height) - I see the Sunon MF60101V3-1000U-A99 recommended (12.2CFM, 0.08 inH2O, 22.5dBA).

From the perspective of the 40mm fans, this is a reduction in CFM from the stock (26.33 CFM, 2.04 inH2O, 53.8dBA), with 2 for total CFM = 52.66 CFM, so generates approx 40% of the airflow, which understandably makes Fan 3 on the ASIC necessary. With the ASIC, this comes to 32.2CFM if you just add it together. In reality it's probably not quite as good as that at exhausting the hot air given the orientation of Fan 3 on the ASIC, but maybe it's more effective at removing heat from the ASIC heatsink at the detriment of ambient temperatures within the chassis (which might be better?).

I'm a little hesitant to mount a fan on the ASIC as it seems like a destructive process (I see the recommendation to use self-tapping screws to screw into the heatsink). If anybody has a better recommendation on mounting methodology that would be good.

Has anybody tried the following, and if so what were your results?

1. A low noise adapter on the existing fans
2. Adding a third 40mm fan into the empty slot using a splitter (something like this? Amazon.com: ThreeBulls PWM Fan Hub, PC CPU Cooling 4 PIN/3PIN Power Fan Extension Cable Hub Splitter Adapter Sleeved Case for 12V Desktop Computer Cooler Fans 1 to 5 Way (15.7 Inch) : Electronics)

It seems like the original fans actually have a pretty good noise/performance curve, so maybe just reducing the RPM with (1) would actually be a pretty good solution?

As for option (2), I found the following fans that seem like they may be good options for something slightly noisier than previously recommended, but closer to original performance:

Ref
Model
Max Airflow (CFM)Max Pressure (inH2O)Max Sound Level (dBA)Estimated total airflow (2 fans, CFM)Estimated total noise (2 fans, dBA)Estimated total Airflow (3 fans, CFM)Estimated total noise (3 fans, dBA)Airflow performance 3 fans relative to original configuration (2 fans)Noise performance 3 fans relative to original configuration (2 fans)
1Foxconn PIA040H12P-F02-AB26.332.0453.852.6656.87959150%1.6x louder
2Mechatronics G4028H12B2-RSR160.5741484591%15x quieter
3Sanyo Denki 109P0412G3013
14.8

0.719
4244.446
85%
12x quieter
4Wakefield DC0402812J2B-3T013.80.463841.44279%30x quieter
5Sanyo Denki 109P0412P3H01311.30.4143733.94164%38x quieter
6Delta FFB0412HN-F0010.60.24832.131.836.860%100x quieter
7Delta EFB0412VHD-F0010.10.41632.530.337.257%91x quieter
8Mechatronics MR4020E12B1-RSR15.80.4539.147.443.990%20x quieter

Comments:
* (2) seems to only be available in batches of 100 on digikey, but purchasable in lower quantities from bravo electro
* (8) is still not readily available outside of the US. US seem to have availability through Bravo Electro
* I wasn't really sure how to quantify the effect of pressure difference across the configurations, except to note that all of the alternatives have a rather drastic drop. It would be good to understand what the static pressure of the system actually is so that the CFM results for each of these fans could be normalised (I think most of them have published P-Q curves so that should be possible). This is a TODO - I wasn't able to find any information quickly. It does say something that the OEM solution has such a high static pressure rating though; makes me think it's on the higher end - surely they wouldn't try to overspec it that much.
* The estimated total noise of the stock configuration in (1) for 2 fans doesn't match my observed results. My guess is that this is because (a) the calculation is idealised and the assumptions aren't perfectly aligned with reality and (b) I'm measuring the sound level of my entire rack, not just the switch. My rack has a baseline noise measurement of ~46dBA, which I wouldn't have thought would impact drastically. I suspect as others have already commented that the 53.8 dBA metric for the fan relates to the fan in free space, not counting the enclosure etc and any related harmonics that go along with that, which I know can contribute a fair bit. All of that to say; treat the estimated noise values with a grain of salt. They're probably indicative enough of trends but by no means accurate.

Resources:
* cumulative noise performance estimated using Total dB level adding of incoherent or noncoherent uncorrelated sound sources signals combine sound levels two sources resultant level audio logarithmic decibel scale decibels or SPL sound pressure level add signal noise levels noncoherent incoherent random phase acoustic - sengpielaudio Sengpiel Berlin
* Interpretation of relative noise performance uses the equation 100 * 10 ^ (abs(NL1 - NL2) / 10) - decibels are a log scale, not linear.

Keen to hear if anybody else has experimented with these alternatives or if there are any obvious flaws in my thinking here; I haven't made a decision on way forward yet.
 
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I'm a little hesitant to mount a fan on the ASIC as it seems like a destructive process (I see the recommendation to use self-tapping screws to screw into the heatsink). If anybody has a better recommendation on mounting methodology that would be good.
People have used rubber bands to mount it as well as twisties/zipties to the PoE board screw/PoE power connector. There was a picture in here somewhere but I can't easily find it. I used twisties.
 
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Due to the distance is it worth while to invest in the FS SFP-10G-T-100? These are expensive at $169 each. Would a less expensive SFP accomplish my goals? Do the FS modules down negotiate? Assuming I manage a 5G link does the 7250 support flow control?
You could try the Wiitek 100 m rated transceivers and see if they can link properly at 10 Gbps. They have supposedly switched from Broadcom to Marvell PHYs recently due to shortages.

Brands available on AliExpress such as ZYOPM and Xicom sell transceivers based on the Broadcom chip used in the FS SFP-10G-T-100 transceiver for somewhere between $40-60, at least without any US tariffs factored in. I got one for as little as $25 (including 25% VAT) a couple of months back. They don't necessarily handle lower speeds than 10 Gbps well though.

One other option if you are fine with 2.5 Gbps you could buy a cheap small switch (4 * 2.5 Gbps RJ45 + 2 * 10 Gbps SFP+) that can be found for as little as $30-50.
 

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Does the ICX 8200 series as well use the principal of honored licence as the previous 7150? Just running a command and that's it if you run a small home lab. Or is a real licence key required to install?
 

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People have used rubber bands to mount it as well as twisties/zipties to the PoE board screw/PoE power connector. There was a picture in here somewhere but I can't easily find it. I used twisties.
are you able to share a picture of yours?