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Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

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In reference to my previous post, #10,715, here are the temps of the 7150-48ZP in the same environment and now having all the clients hooked up to it. It stays much cooler than the 6610-48p in "normal fan mode/speed" This is the static temp and the fans do NOT kick on high at all. I am much happier with the 7150

SSH@ICX7150-48ZP(config)#show chassis
The stack unit 1 chassis info:

Power supply 1 (AC - PoE) present, status ok
Model Number: 23-1000086-01
Serial Number: FKZ3234N1XD
Firmware Ver: 32.65
Power supply 1 Fan Air Flow Direction: Front to Back
Power supply 2 (AC - PoE) present, status ok
Model Number: 23-1000086-01
Serial Number: FKZ3235P1E1
Firmware Ver: 32.65
Power supply 2 Fan Air Flow Direction: Front to Back

Fan 1 ok, speed (auto): [[1]]<->2
Fan 2 ok, speed (auto): [[1]]<->2

Fan controlled temperature:
Rule 1/3 (MGMT THERMAL PLANE): 51.5 deg-C
Rule 2/3 (PoE THERMAL SENSOR PLANE): 46.0 deg-C
Rule 3/3 (MISC THERMAL PLANE): 67.0 deg-C

Fan speed switching temperature thresholds:
Rule 1/3 (MGMT THERMAL PLANE):
Speed 1: NM<-----> 95 deg-C
Speed 2: 85<----->105 deg-C (shutdown)
Rule 2/3 (PoE THERMAL SENSOR PLANE):
Speed 1: NM<----->130 deg-C
Speed 2: 120<----->130 deg-C
Rule 3/3 (MISC THERMAL PLANE):
Speed 1: NM<----->100 deg-C
Speed 2: 85<----->108 deg-C

Fan 1 Air Flow Direction: Front to Back
Fan 2 Air Flow Direction: Front to Back
Slot 1 Current Temperature: 46.7 deg-C (Sensor 1), 52.0 deg-C (Sensor 2), 46.0 deg-C (Sensor 3), 67.0 deg-C (Sensor 4)
Slot 2 Current Temperature: NA
Warning level.......: 100.0 deg-C
Shutdown level......: 105.0 deg-C
 
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After much consideration, I finally took the plunge into dedicated networking gear for my home lab, and I'm very pleased with my initial acquisition.

I recently picked up a Brocade ICX 7250 for around $70, and I'm quite impressed with the value. My next target is an ICX 7150 (Z models) with 2.5GbE ports, specifically to support my upcoming Wi-Fi 7 access points. I've been with Unifi , which is okay. I am not sure why I have adoption issues or odd behaviors from time to time but I do. Hoping to just slowly phase them out, keep their cameras and stay with some of this older enterprise gear.

Beyond the immediate performance, the reported MTBF figures for these Brocade units are incredibly reassuring, suggesting decades of reliable operation. Hopefully that is the case, them being so old is odd but really so nice.
 
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you can run one fan (note there is a specific placement) and one psu. this is detailed early on in the the mega-thread. To my ears I could not really tell a difference, though it might have been a little louder ... YMMV. Also type of PSU makes a difference noise wise. Rev A loudest, Rev B & C quieter (again documented in early parts of the mega-thread). YMWV with all things physiologically subjective.
 
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itronin said:
you can run one fan (note there is a specific placement) and one psu. this is detailed early on in the the mega-thread. To my ears I could not really tell a difference, though it might have been a little louder ... YMMV. Also type of PSU makes a difference noise wise. Rev A loudest, Rev B & C quieter (again documented in early parts of the mega-thread). YMWV with all things physiologically subjective.
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Yeah, when I checked last time, I did get a unit with the Rev B PSU's, I think. With me being in a tropical country, I don't think it's wise to run just one fan though.

@kapone , how about power draw wise, would running the unit with just one PSU make it consume less power? I care less for redundancy in a home setup.
 
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kevindd992002 said:
Yeah, when I checked last time, I did get a unit with the Rev B PSU's, I think. With me being in a tropical country, I don't think it's wise to run just one fan though.

@kapone , how about power draw wise, would running the unit with just one PSU make it consume less power? I care less for redundancy in a home setup.
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~8-10w less
 
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Is this true for other models like ICX7650-48ZP for instance? Where would I get this info since The Great One's online resource only talks about the ICX6610?
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the ultimate source is probably the installation guide for any specific model. The guide for the 7650 says you may install with a single psu and fan.
But which positions? they dont' say. For sure you'd want to blank/filler any unused bays or not fully remove de-energized modules. The drawings in the 7650 always use the outer bays for install new/replace fan/psu module. Note IIRC that's contrary to the ICX6610 placement guidance. best bet would be to get a picture of a NiB 7650 mfg configured with single psu / fan and/or just reach out to commscope to see if someone answers the question. It is also possible that placement of a single fan module and psu are also dependent on whether the airflow is ingress or egress. No mention of that point is made in the installation guide but I'd ask the question if it were me and I had 7650-48zp.
 
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Cheburashka said:
I've been having some issues with my ICX7150-c12p.

A while back I was using the switching only firmware and had random issues with the switch loosing connectivity/functionality. Sometimes It would continue working for existing connections but new connections that would be brought up (powered on), the switch wouldn't see those ports.

I loaded up the L3 Routing firmware instead and didn't enable any L3 functionality. Its been working fine for a while but this evening I cannot get any serial access to it or access its network management-OOBM port on the IP that it was set for.

I'm certain that once I reboot, it will come back up but for some reason, the switch seems to go dumb every so often.

My network isn't complex and I suspect it is an issue with the switch.

Anybody else experience these type issues with their Brocade/Ruckus switch?
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Experiencing similar issue with my 7150-C12P and I am certain its either RAM or some other component issue. It would randomly freeze entire system, detected instantly by my monitoring since SNMP and ICMP dies. No console access when it happens. Ports would keep working but that's purely because they are programmed by OS and then keep switching, though there is 30 minutes hardware watchdog that resets the unit once it freezes. After forced reset, most of the times it freezes while booting. Few times I got it to print literal garbage while loading from FIT image, other times it just freezes after printing "Starting kernel ...". Doing forced power reset usually helps once it gets into this state, but it fails again after some hours. It started few months after i bought it and since it fails to even boot reliably, it is definitely not issue with OS or network. It's worth to note that these units run extremely hot even when idling with no ports connected, easily reaching 68*C sitting on a desk. For a comparison, 6450-C12-PD generally run at 56*C in such condition.

I also doubt its the PSU issue that plagues these, as even when frozen, PoE ports are kept online and none of the powered devices ever went down. Actual PoE load was about 16W across two ports. At this point I have it replaced with 6450-C12-PD and awaiting new one.
 
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fohdeesha said:
MT29F2G08AAB or 29F16G08 IIRC for OS images, the bootloader (u-boot) is in separate SPI flash, and there's two of them A and B which each have their own copy, 25l6435e
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Since the bootloader is separate, is it possible to replace both chips and flash firmware back to the switch? I've got bad blocks on my secondary and I've had instances of both NANDs losing firmware due to power loss.
 
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"both nands" - primary and secondary OS slots are on the same NAND, it's just split in half. if the switch boots to the bootloader at the very least, you don't need to (and shouldn't) touch the boot SPI. It's the big nand IC that would need replaced, but IIRC there's somewhere in the bootloader to wipe the nand and scan for bad blocks and mark them so they're not used, search the thread i think
 
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I have the ICX-6610 with two Ubiquiti's SFP+ to RJ45 Adapter (UACC-CM-RJ45-MG). I am able to see 10G supported and the link works fine until I reboot the switch. On reboot of the switch the two SFP modules fail to turn on and I have to physically unplug and replug them in to get them to work. Is there any way to fix this?
 
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Is there anything in switch logs about module being disabled? That sounds pretty unusual, though maybe there's some issue with power requirements that aren't fully met on boot causing modules to enter broken state until re-plugged?
 
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donileo said:
I have the ICX-6610 with two Ubiquiti's SFP+ to RJ45 Adapter (UACC-CM-RJ45-MG). I am able to see 10G supported and the link works fine until I reboot the switch. On reboot of the switch the two SFP modules fail to turn on and I have to physically unplug and replug them in to get them to work. Is there any way to fix this?
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Those modules have incompatibilities with some switches/devices. If I recall correctly, it has something to do with how they wired the reset pin or something like that. Basically, it's a hardware design flaw as I understand it.

I believe it has been discussed on this forum before, and someone got a switch vendor (TP-Link, if I recall correctly) to comment on it as well. If not here, it was probably on the Ubiquiti forums.
 
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blunden said:
Those modules have incompatibilities with some switches/devices. If I recall correctly, it has something to do with how they wired the reset pin or something like that. Basically, it's a hardware design flaw as I understand it.

I believe it has been discussed on this forum before, and someone got a switch vendor (TP-Link, if I recall correctly) to comment on it as well. If not here, it was probably on the Ubiquiti forums.
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I got these because they were supposedly built very well and ran cooler then other SFP+ modules. Any recommendations for modules that meet those same criteria but also don't have this reset issue?
 
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donileo said:
I got these because they were supposedly built very well and ran cooler then other SFP+ modules. Any recommendations for modules that meet those same criteria but also don't have this reset issue?
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Yes, those were the cheapest 10GBASE-T SFP+ transceivers rated for 100 meters (compared to the old 30 meter ones) for a while. Since then, manufacturers from China have brought the price down on transceivers using that same Broadcom chip quite a bit.

See the thread below for additional discussion about these transceivers:


Some references to the issue I mentioned:



Extra details:


It was apparently not the reset pin, it was the TX_Disable pin. :)
 
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