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[jmacsob]

Well I somehow managed to find not one but two DAC cables that will not work on either an ICX 7150 or an ICX 6450, I thought I would leave the info here so others avoid making the same mistake. The switches do detect the modules, they just do not link.

#1 Belkin F2CX036-05M Cable, SFP+, 10GBASE Direct Attached Passive TWNAX, 5M

This DAC is marketed as a cisco compatible part, I could not get it working with any of the ruckus/brocade switches I have. I was able to get it working for directly connecting two Intel X520 adapters. Below is the dump of the module using ethtool.

Spoiler: Belkin F2CX036-05M Cable, SFP+ Dump

root@pve1:~# ethtool -m eno2
        Identifier                                : 0x03 (SFP)
        Extended identifier                       : 0x04 (GBIC/SFP defined by 2-wire interface ID)
        Connector                                 : 0x21 (Copper pigtail)
        Transceiver codes                         : 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00
        Transceiver type                          : Passive Cable
        Encoding                                  : 0x00 (unspecified)
        BR, Nominal                               : 10300MBd
        Rate identifier                           : 0x00 (unspecified)
        Length (SMF,km)                           : 0km
        Length (SMF)                              : 0m
        Length (50um)                             : 0m
        Length (62.5um)                           : 0m
        Length (Copper)                           : 5m
        Length (OM3)                              : 0m
        Passive Cu cmplnce.                       : 0x03 (unknown) [SFF-8472 rev10.4 only]
        Vendor name                               : OEM
        Vendor OUI                                : 00:40:20
        Vendor PN                                 : SFP-H10GB-CU5M
        Vendor rev                                :
        Option values                             : 0x00 0x00
        BR margin, max                            : 0%
        BR margin, min                            : 0%
        Vendor SN                                 : CSC10G53053
        Date code                                 : 12071900
root@pve1:~# ethtool -m eno2 hex on
Offset          Values
------          ------
0x0000:         03 04 21 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 67 00 00 00
0x0010:         00 00 05 00 4f 45 4d 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
0x0020:         20 20 20 20 00 00 40 20 53 46 50 2d 48 31 30 47
0x0030:         42 2d 43 55 35 4d 20 20 20 20 20 20 03 52 00 1d
0x0040:         00 00 00 00 43 53 43 31 30 47 35 33 30 35 33 20
0x0050:         20 20 20 20 31 32 30 37 31 39 30 30 00 00 00 b5
0x0060:         80 00 11 e6 16 55 db 1d 6c f7 fd 8a d2 d0 29 73
0x0070:         c4 7f 5c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2a 7c 35 a7
0x0080:         43 4f 50 51 41 41 34 4a 41 41 33 37 2d 30 39 36
0x0090:         30 2d 30 32 56 30 32 20 01 00 46 00 00 00 00 c9
0x00a0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00b0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00c0:         53 46 50 2d 48 31 30 47 42 2d 43 55 35 4d 20 20
0x00d0:         20 20 20 20 30 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b3
0x00e0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00f0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

#2 Amphenol 571540001 0.5m SFP+ 10GbE Direct Attach Passive Copper Cable twinaxial

This DAC was the same as above, it did not work in the switches, but did work in a NIC.

Spoiler: Amphenol 571540001 0.5m Cable, SFP+ Dump

root@pve1:~# ethtool -m eno2
        Identifier                                : 0x03 (SFP)
        Extended identifier                       : 0x04 (GBIC/SFP defined by 2-wire interface ID)
        Connector                                 : 0x21 (Copper pigtail)
        Transceiver codes                         : 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00
        Transceiver type                          : Passive Cable
        Encoding                                  : 0x00 (unspecified)
        BR, Nominal                               : 10300MBd
        Rate identifier                           : 0x00 (unspecified)
        Length (SMF,km)                           : 0km
        Length (SMF)                              : 0m
        Length (50um)                             : 0m
        Length (62.5um)                           : 0m
        Length (Copper)                           : 1m
        Length (OM3)                              : 0m
        Passive Cu cmplnce.                       : 0x01 (SFF-8431 appendix E) [SFF-8472 rev10.4 only]
        Vendor name                               : Amphenol
        Vendor OUI                                : 78:a7:14
        Vendor PN                                 : 571540001
        Vendor rev                                : W
        Option values                             : 0x00 0x00
        BR margin, max                            : 0%
        BR margin, min                            : 0%
        Vendor SN                                 : APE16310011MJV
        Date code                                 : 160808
root@pve1:~# ethtool -m eno2 hex on
Offset          Values
------          ------
0x0000:         03 04 21 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 67 00 00 00
0x0010:         00 00 01 00 41 6d 70 68 65 6e 6f 6c 20 20 20 20
0x0020:         20 20 20 20 00 78 a7 14 35 37 31 35 34 30 30 30
0x0030:         31 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 57 20 20 20 01 00 00 5a
0x0040:         00 00 00 00 41 50 45 31 36 33 31 30 30 31 31 4d
0x0050:         4a 56 20 20 31 36 30 38 30 38 20 20 00 00 00 07
0x0060:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x0070:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x0080:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x0090:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x00a0:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x00b0:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x00c0:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x00d0:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x00e0:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x00f0:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff

Lastly is a cable that I have been using for some time and it has been working in practically everything I've got. They were included with my connectx-2 cards a while back so I don't know much about them.

Spoiler: THESE WORK -- CISCO-TYCO Cable 2M, SFP+ Dump

root@pve1:~# ethtool -m eno1
        Identifier                                : 0x03 (SFP)
        Extended identifier                       : 0x04 (GBIC/SFP defined by 2-wire interface ID)
        Connector                                 : 0x21 (Copper pigtail)
        Transceiver codes                         : 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00
        Transceiver type                          : Passive Cable
        Encoding                                  : 0x00 (unspecified)
        BR, Nominal                               : 10300MBd
        Rate identifier                           : 0x00 (unspecified)
        Length (SMF,km)                           : 0km
        Length (SMF)                              : 0m
        Length (50um)                             : 0m
        Length (62.5um)                           : 0m
        Length (Copper)                           : 2m
        Length (OM3)                              : 0m
        Passive Cu cmplnce.                       : 0x01 (SFF-8431 appendix E) [SFF-8472 rev10.4 only]
        Vendor name                               : CISCO-TYCO
        Vendor OUI                                : 00:40:20
        Vendor PN                                 : 1-2053783-6
        Vendor rev                                : R
        Option values                             : 0x00 0x00
        BR margin, max                            : 0%
        BR margin, min                            : 0%
        Vendor SN                                 : TED1635HR5H
        Date code                                 : 16082900
root@pve1:~# ethtool -m eno1 hex on
Offset          Values
------          ------
0x0000:         03 04 21 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 67 00 00 00
0x0010:         00 00 02 00 43 49 53 43 4f 2d 54 59 43 4f 20 20
0x0020:         20 20 20 20 00 00 40 20 31 2d 32 30 35 33 37 38
0x0030:         33 2d 36 20 20 20 20 20 52 20 20 20 01 00 00 12
0x0040:         00 00 00 00 54 45 44 31 36 33 35 48 52 35 48 20
0x0050:         20 20 20 20 31 36 30 38 32 39 30 30 00 00 00 fd
0x0060:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x0070:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e9 77 70 80
0x0080:         43 4f 50 51 41 42 54 4a 41 41 33 37 2d 31 34 33
0x0090:         30 2d 30 31 56 30 31 20 01 00 46 00 00 00 00 e1
0x00a0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00b0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00c0:         53 46 50 2d 48 31 30 47 42 2d 43 55 32 4d 20 20
0x00d0:         20 20 20 20 31 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ad
0x00e0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00f0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

If anyone has any recommendations I am looking to pick up a few extra cables 0.5M, 1M, and 5M, I do use optical but I would like the DAC for troubleshooting and flexibility purposes. For instance if I order on FS should I be getting brocade compatible cables or Cisco being that I do have that one cisco-tyco cable that works fine? I was thinking of going with these Cisco SFP-H10GB-CU3M 3 Meter 10G SFP+ DAC Twinax Cable 37-0961 MNPA19-XTR | eBay

Alternatively if there is a way to recode the modules, I'm all ears. I saw how Fohdeesha did this with the monoprice qfsp cables but that was on an ICX6610 which I do not have access to. I know this can be also be done with specialty hardware such as a Revelprog EEPROM programmer with sfp adapter as well but I didn't think it was worth the cost for what will possibly be a one time use.

 

[Necrotyr]

I use FiberStores generic and mellanox coded cables in my 6450, works like a charm.

 

[kapone]

Shameless plug: I have 8x new Brocade branded 3m DAC cables that I'm not using. Reasonable offers considered. (These are Brocade parts, will show extended info, like temps, with Brocade switches)

 

[jmacsob]

Thanks, I will probably go with some mellanox cables, not looking to spend much $10-13 per cable lol, nothing mission critical in my home lab.

 

[Alitech]

Can someone please help. I have just updated my 6450p with the latest firmware for the system as well as POE. It is operating well so far with the limited testing I have done. I cant figure out why POE is not working on the switch yet? I have followed fohdeesha's instructions fully.

This is what the config looks like right now:

!
Startup-config data location is flash memory
!
Startup configuration:
!
ver 08.0.30tT313
!
stack unit 1
module 1 icx6450-48p-poe-port-management-module
module 2 icx6450-sfp-plus-4port-40g-module
!
!
!
!
vlan 1 name DEFAULT-VLAN by port
router-interface ve 1
!
!
!
!
!
hostname alitech
ip dhcp-client disable
ip dns server-address 192.168.1.1
ip route 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.1.1
!
!
!
clock summer-time
!
!
ntp
disable serve
server 216.239.35.0
server 216.239.35.4
!
!
!
!
!
interface ethernet 1/1/1
inline power
!
interface ve 1
ip address 192.168.1.55 255.255.255.0
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
ip ssh permit-empty-passwd yes
!
!
end

To try to solve the problem, I did a google search and landed on here where they have some instructions to turn on POE:
Enabling and disabling Power over Ethernet

Its still not working despite showing up in config that inline power is on the interface. Is there something else I need to do? Perhaps I havent turned it on for all ports?

Please let me know where I am going on.

Also, just to confirm, the ports are all POE auto sensing? (figuring out if the device requires POE or not)

thanks

 

[Vorwrath]

I just grabbed the cheapest I could see on UK eBay, which were some 3 metre Dell DAC-SFP-10G-3M (53HVN) and they're working fine with my 7150.

 

[jmacsob]

Can someone please help. I have just updated my 6450p with the latest firmware for the system as well as POE. It is operating well so far with the limited testing I have done. I cant figure out why POE is not working on the switch yet? I have followed fohdeesha's instructions fully.

This is what the config looks like right now:

!
Startup-config data location is flash memory
!
Startup configuration:
!
ver 08.0.30tT313
!
stack unit 1
module 1 icx6450-48p-poe-port-management-module
module 2 icx6450-sfp-plus-4port-40g-module
!
!
!
!
vlan 1 name DEFAULT-VLAN by port
router-interface ve 1
!
!
!
!
!
hostname alitech
ip dhcp-client disable
ip dns server-address 192.168.1.1
ip route 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.1.1
!
!
!
clock summer-time
!
!
ntp
disable serve
server 216.239.35.0
server 216.239.35.4
!
!
!
!
!
interface ethernet 1/1/1
inline power
!
interface ve 1
ip address 192.168.1.55 255.255.255.0
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
ip ssh permit-empty-passwd yes
!
!
end

To try to solve the problem, I did a google search and landed on here where they have some instructions to turn on POE:
Enabling and disabling Power over Ethernet

Its still not working despite showing up in config that inline power is on the interface. Is there something else I need to do? Perhaps I havent turned it on for all ports?

Please let me know where I am going on.

Also, just to confirm, the ports are all POE auto sensing? (figuring out if the device requires POE or not)

thanks

What do you get from the show inline power command?

Spoiler: This is what mine looks like with only three ports configured and budgeted to use no more than 10Watts

telnet@ICX7150-24P Switch>show inline power

Power Capacity:         Total is 150000 mWatts. Current Free is 120000 mWatts.

Power Allocations:      Requests Honored 6 times


 Port   Admin   Oper    ---Power(mWatts)---  PD Type  PD Class  Pri  Fault/
        State   State   Consumed  Allocated                          Error
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1/1/1 On      On          5000      10000  802.3at  Class 4     3  n/a
  1/1/2 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/3 On      On          4500      10000  802.3at  Class 4     3  n/a
  1/1/4 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/5 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/6 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/7 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/8 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/9 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/10 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/11 On      On          4200      10000  802.3af  Class 3     3  n/a
 1/1/12 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/13 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/14 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/15 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/16 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/17 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/18 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/19 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/20 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/21 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/22 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/23 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/24 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Total                     13700      30000

 

[Alitech]

I enabled it for first 8 ports and this is what I see

telnet@alitech>show inline power

Power Capacity:         Total is 740000 mWatts. Current Free is 740000 mWatts.

Power Allocations:      Requests Honored 8 times


 Port   Admin   Oper    ---Power(mWatts)---  PD Type  PD Class  Pri  Fault/
        State   State   Consumed  Allocated                          Error
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1/1/1 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/2 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/3 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/4 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/5 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/6 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/7 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/8 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/9 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/10 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/11 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/12 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/13 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/14 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/15 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/16 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/17 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/18 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/19 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/20 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/21 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/22 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/23 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/24 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/25 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/26 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/27 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/28 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/29 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/30 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/31 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/32 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/33 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/34 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/35 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/36 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/37 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/38 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/39 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/40 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/41 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/42 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/43 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/44 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/45 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/46 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/47 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/48 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Total                         0          0

 

[eliezerlp]

one more thing... anyone got a set of rack mounts for the 6450 the want to sell or send me the dimensions too? That would be AMAZING!
Please and thank you


Can anyone comment on whether any of the "Cisco Compatible" rack kits will work with the 6450-48?

something like this?

I too am on the hunt for a reasonably priced set of ears. From what I've gathered there isn't really a readily available compatible ears...

For reference the rack mount kit P/N is "ICX6450-RMK".

 

[infoMatt]

Can someone please help. I have just updated my 6450p with the latest firmware for the system as well as POE. It is operating well so far with the limited testing I have done. I cant figure out why POE is not working on the switch yet? I have followed fohdeesha's instructions fully.
[...]
Its still not working despite showing up in config that inline power is on the interface. Is there something else I need to do? Perhaps I havent turned it on for all ports?

Please let me know where I am going on.

Also, just to confirm, the ports are all POE auto sensing? (figuring out if the device requires POE or not)

thanks

Absolutely not necessary, you can enable PoE on just some ports and not on other, that aspect is fine.

Your configuration and the "show inline power" looks good to me, and all that it's necessary really is to enable inline power on the desidered interface(s).
What devices are you trying to power using the 6450? Keep in mind that those switches are 802.3af (PoE) and .3at (PoE+) compliant, so they will source +48V along the pairs of the ethernet cable only if they sense a PD (Powered Deviced) connected; if you plug a "passive" +24V """PoE""" like an external radio or some cheap cameras, they won't pass the PD detection, and thus no power will be delivered.

 

[infoMatt]

I too am on the hunt for a reasonably priced set of ears. From what I've gathered there isn't really a readily available compatible ears...

For reference the rack mount kit P/N is "ICX6450-RMK".

Rack ears for the 6450 is just a piece of bent sheet metal really, there's not much to it...

The center of the holes is about 11mm from the internal edge (the one touching the frame of the switch), the rail facing lip is 20mm long total (from switch frame edge outwards), and they are 2mm thick.

On mine theres a number written: "B425.00139.015 Rev.00 FOXCONN"

 

[fohdeesha]

Well I somehow managed to find not one but two DAC cables that will not work on either an ICX 7150 or an ICX 6450, I thought I would leave the info here so others avoid making the same mistake. The switches do detect the modules, they just do not link.

#1 Belkin F2CX036-05M Cable, SFP+, 10GBASE Direct Attached Passive TWNAX, 5M

This DAC is marketed as a cisco compatible part, I could not get it working with any of the ruckus/brocade switches I have. I was able to get it working for directly connecting two Intel X520 adapters. Below is the dump of the module using ethtool.

Spoiler: Belkin F2CX036-05M Cable, SFP+ Dump

root@pve1:~# ethtool -m eno2
        Identifier                                : 0x03 (SFP)
        Extended identifier                       : 0x04 (GBIC/SFP defined by 2-wire interface ID)
        Connector                                 : 0x21 (Copper pigtail)
        Transceiver codes                         : 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00
        Transceiver type                          : Passive Cable
        Encoding                                  : 0x00 (unspecified)
        BR, Nominal                               : 10300MBd
        Rate identifier                           : 0x00 (unspecified)
        Length (SMF,km)                           : 0km
        Length (SMF)                              : 0m
        Length (50um)                             : 0m
        Length (62.5um)                           : 0m
        Length (Copper)                           : 5m
        Length (OM3)                              : 0m
        Passive Cu cmplnce.                       : 0x03 (unknown) [SFF-8472 rev10.4 only]
        Vendor name                               : OEM
        Vendor OUI                                : 00:40:20
        Vendor PN                                 : SFP-H10GB-CU5M
        Vendor rev                                :
        Option values                             : 0x00 0x00
        BR margin, max                            : 0%
        BR margin, min                            : 0%
        Vendor SN                                 : CSC10G53053
        Date code                                 : 12071900
root@pve1:~# ethtool -m eno2 hex on
Offset          Values
------          ------
0x0000:         03 04 21 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 67 00 00 00
0x0010:         00 00 05 00 4f 45 4d 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
0x0020:         20 20 20 20 00 00 40 20 53 46 50 2d 48 31 30 47
0x0030:         42 2d 43 55 35 4d 20 20 20 20 20 20 03 52 00 1d
0x0040:         00 00 00 00 43 53 43 31 30 47 35 33 30 35 33 20
0x0050:         20 20 20 20 31 32 30 37 31 39 30 30 00 00 00 b5
0x0060:         80 00 11 e6 16 55 db 1d 6c f7 fd 8a d2 d0 29 73
0x0070:         c4 7f 5c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2a 7c 35 a7
0x0080:         43 4f 50 51 41 41 34 4a 41 41 33 37 2d 30 39 36
0x0090:         30 2d 30 32 56 30 32 20 01 00 46 00 00 00 00 c9
0x00a0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00b0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00c0:         53 46 50 2d 48 31 30 47 42 2d 43 55 35 4d 20 20
0x00d0:         20 20 20 20 30 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b3
0x00e0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00f0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

#2 Amphenol 571540001 0.5m SFP+ 10GbE Direct Attach Passive Copper Cable twinaxial

This DAC was the same as above, it did not work in the switches, but did work in a NIC.

Spoiler: Amphenol 571540001 0.5m Cable, SFP+ Dump

root@pve1:~# ethtool -m eno2
        Identifier                                : 0x03 (SFP)
        Extended identifier                       : 0x04 (GBIC/SFP defined by 2-wire interface ID)
        Connector                                 : 0x21 (Copper pigtail)
        Transceiver codes                         : 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00
        Transceiver type                          : Passive Cable
        Encoding                                  : 0x00 (unspecified)
        BR, Nominal                               : 10300MBd
        Rate identifier                           : 0x00 (unspecified)
        Length (SMF,km)                           : 0km
        Length (SMF)                              : 0m
        Length (50um)                             : 0m
        Length (62.5um)                           : 0m
        Length (Copper)                           : 1m
        Length (OM3)                              : 0m
        Passive Cu cmplnce.                       : 0x01 (SFF-8431 appendix E) [SFF-8472 rev10.4 only]
        Vendor name                               : Amphenol
        Vendor OUI                                : 78:a7:14
        Vendor PN                                 : 571540001
        Vendor rev                                : W
        Option values                             : 0x00 0x00
        BR margin, max                            : 0%
        BR margin, min                            : 0%
        Vendor SN                                 : APE16310011MJV
        Date code                                 : 160808
root@pve1:~# ethtool -m eno2 hex on
Offset          Values
------          ------
0x0000:         03 04 21 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 67 00 00 00
0x0010:         00 00 01 00 41 6d 70 68 65 6e 6f 6c 20 20 20 20
0x0020:         20 20 20 20 00 78 a7 14 35 37 31 35 34 30 30 30
0x0030:         31 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 57 20 20 20 01 00 00 5a
0x0040:         00 00 00 00 41 50 45 31 36 33 31 30 30 31 31 4d
0x0050:         4a 56 20 20 31 36 30 38 30 38 20 20 00 00 00 07
0x0060:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x0070:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x0080:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x0090:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x00a0:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x00b0:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x00c0:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x00d0:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x00e0:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
0x00f0:         ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff

Lastly is a cable that I have been using for some time and it has been working in practically everything I've got. They were included with my connectx-2 cards a while back so I don't know much about them.

Spoiler: THESE WORK -- CISCO-TYCO Cable 2M, SFP+ Dump

root@pve1:~# ethtool -m eno1
        Identifier                                : 0x03 (SFP)
        Extended identifier                       : 0x04 (GBIC/SFP defined by 2-wire interface ID)
        Connector                                 : 0x21 (Copper pigtail)
        Transceiver codes                         : 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00
        Transceiver type                          : Passive Cable
        Encoding                                  : 0x00 (unspecified)
        BR, Nominal                               : 10300MBd
        Rate identifier                           : 0x00 (unspecified)
        Length (SMF,km)                           : 0km
        Length (SMF)                              : 0m
        Length (50um)                             : 0m
        Length (62.5um)                           : 0m
        Length (Copper)                           : 2m
        Length (OM3)                              : 0m
        Passive Cu cmplnce.                       : 0x01 (SFF-8431 appendix E) [SFF-8472 rev10.4 only]
        Vendor name                               : CISCO-TYCO
        Vendor OUI                                : 00:40:20
        Vendor PN                                 : 1-2053783-6
        Vendor rev                                : R
        Option values                             : 0x00 0x00
        BR margin, max                            : 0%
        BR margin, min                            : 0%
        Vendor SN                                 : TED1635HR5H
        Date code                                 : 16082900
root@pve1:~# ethtool -m eno1 hex on
Offset          Values
------          ------
0x0000:         03 04 21 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 67 00 00 00
0x0010:         00 00 02 00 43 49 53 43 4f 2d 54 59 43 4f 20 20
0x0020:         20 20 20 20 00 00 40 20 31 2d 32 30 35 33 37 38
0x0030:         33 2d 36 20 20 20 20 20 52 20 20 20 01 00 00 12
0x0040:         00 00 00 00 54 45 44 31 36 33 35 48 52 35 48 20
0x0050:         20 20 20 20 31 36 30 38 32 39 30 30 00 00 00 fd
0x0060:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x0070:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e9 77 70 80
0x0080:         43 4f 50 51 41 42 54 4a 41 41 33 37 2d 31 34 33
0x0090:         30 2d 30 31 56 30 31 20 01 00 46 00 00 00 00 e1
0x00a0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00b0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00c0:         53 46 50 2d 48 31 30 47 42 2d 43 55 32 4d 20 20
0x00d0:         20 20 20 20 31 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ad
0x00e0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00f0:         00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

If anyone has any recommendations I am looking to pick up a few extra cables 0.5M, 1M, and 5M, I do use optical but I would like the DAC for troubleshooting and flexibility purposes. For instance if I order on FS should I be getting brocade compatible cables or Cisco being that I do have that one cisco-tyco cable that works fine? I was thinking of going with these Cisco SFP-H10GB-CU3M 3 Meter 10G SFP+ DAC Twinax Cable 37-0961 MNPA19-XTR | eBay

Alternatively if there is a way to recode the modules, I'm all ears. I saw how Fohdeesha did this with the monoprice qfsp cables but that was on an ICX6610 which I do not have access to. I know this can be also be done with specialty hardware such as a Revelprog EEPROM programmer with sfp adapter as well but I didn't think it was worth the cost for what will possibly be a one time use.

Have you verified the ports you tried these in on your switches are licensed and configured for 10gbE full duplex, eg they link without an issue with other DACs or other optics? Or are these the first things you've tried in these ports? I ask because I've literally used fibrechannel optics in these things, they simply don't care. I'd be surprised if it was indeed the DACs

 

[fohdeesha]

I enabled it for first 8 ports and this is what I see

telnet@alitech>show inline power

Power Capacity:         Total is 740000 mWatts. Current Free is 740000 mWatts.

Power Allocations:      Requests Honored 8 times


 Port   Admin   Oper    ---Power(mWatts)---  PD Type  PD Class  Pri  Fault/
        State   State   Consumed  Allocated                          Error
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1/1/1 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/2 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/3 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/4 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/5 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/6 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/7 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/8 On      Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
  1/1/9 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/10 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/11 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/12 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/13 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/14 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/15 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/16 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/17 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/18 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/19 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/20 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/21 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/22 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/23 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/24 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/25 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/26 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/27 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/28 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/29 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/30 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/31 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/32 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/33 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/34 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/35 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/36 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/37 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/38 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/39 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/40 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/41 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/42 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/43 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/44 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/45 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/46 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/47 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
 1/1/48 Off     Off            0          0  n/a      n/a         3  n/a
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Total                         0          0

your config is correct, like infomatt said it looks like the switch isn't seeing any PoE compliant devices on the other end. Note: ubiquiti 24v and other "24v passive PoE" crap is not standards compliant 48v PoE, and will not work with PoE switches without an adapter

 

[fohdeesha]

Yeah, not sure why. I'll try to connect with the console cable and see if I can get a hint as to what's going on. Surprised it kept rebooting.

Ok I'm just an idiot and have been doing this so long I'm forgetting things, my original 7250 post/notes indeed point out the hardware watchdog and the fact at least one fan needs to be plugged. It would be good if we could pinpoint the rough rpm fans have to meet in speed 1 to not get tagged as failed https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...gbe-40gbe-switching.21107/page-47#post-208624

 

[UKEE]

without RPM output it will think the fans have failed. on the icx6450 and icx7250 theyll still boot and run

Thanks fohdeesha....this is the one that confused me.

https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...be-40gbe-switching.21107/page-119#post-241628

The ICX6450 will tag a slow fan as failed but will still boot and run. The ICX7250, at least in my case, will tag it as failed and shut down (actually, it will restart over and over and over again....).

 

[fohdeesha]

Thanks fohdeesha....this is the one that confused me.

https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...be-40gbe-switching.21107/page-119#post-241628

The ICX6450 will tag a slow fan as failed but will still boot and run. The ICX7250, at least in my case, will tag it as failed and shut down (actually, it will restart over and over and over again....).

oops, fixed

 

[tommybackeast]

oops, fixed

Firmware question on ICX7250-48p

While reading the Ruckus r510 AP manual; and its 200.8 firmware; there's a blurb about cases of using r510 AP in conjunction with 7250 Switch

"
NOTE
For more information on ICX device capabilities and configuration, refer to the Ruckus FastIron documentation set available at the following URL:
https://support.ruckuswireless.com. On the site, select Products > Ruckus ICX Switches > Technical Documents, and choose the platform and document of interest.

The following items are required to manage ICX devices:

• The ICX switch must be running FastIron software version 08.0.90 or higher.

"
I then peeked at 7250 firmware page and noticed there's 08.0.92a out from Feb 2020.

Ruckus ICX FastIron 08.0.92a (GA) Software Release (.zip) | Software Downloads | Ruckus Wireless Support

Gently asking (given your last version is 08080e from Oct 2019)

is it ok to install the new 7250 firmware -or- do you suggest waiting until you add it on your download files ?

Thank you.

 

[fohdeesha]

They're talking about the SmartZone functionality, which uses a central controller and allows automatic provisioning of ICX switches and ruckus APs, for that indeed you need the latest firmware. However you won't be using that, you'll be using unleashed FW, so it's irrelevant. For maximum stability, stick with the "stable" codetrain which is what's on the guide, 8080. If you like to live dangerously you can jump to more recent code like 8090 or 8092, but you won't gain any more functionality with the AP than you already have

EDIT: wrong, theyve eventually added icx management/polling to unleashed fw as well

 

[RoachedCoach]

Firmware question on ICX7250-48p

While reading the Ruckus r510 AP manual; and its 200.8 firmware; there's a blurb about cases of using r510 AP in conjunction with 7250 Switch

"
NOTE
For more information on ICX device capabilities and configuration, refer to the Ruckus FastIron documentation set available at the following URL:
https://support.ruckuswireless.com. On the site, select Products > Ruckus ICX Switches > Technical Documents, and choose the platform and document of interest.

The following items are required to manage ICX devices:

• The ICX switch must be running FastIron software version 08.0.90 or higher.

"
I then peeked at 7250 firmware page and noticed there's 08.0.92a out from Feb 2020.

Ruckus ICX FastIron 08.0.92a (GA) Software Release (.zip) | Software Downloads | Ruckus Wireless Support

Gently asking (given your last version is 08080e from Oct 2019)

is it ok to install the new 7250 firmware -or- do you suggest waiting until you add it on your download files ?

Thank you.

After your help in the other thread, I decided to 'live dangerously' and install the latest FW on my ICX7250-48P and try out the maangement/monitoring connection between Unleashed APs (R510 for me) and the switch. I can't get it to connect. Did some digging and found this thread:

Unleashed connection to ICX | Ruckus Wireless Customer Community

It was a little over my head, but maybe you guys can make sense of it. Would be cool to have something closer to a single pane of glass if it worked.

As an aside - no issues with the latest FW on the switch yet, though I'm not doing anything very advanced. The AP works great and I've ordered a second one.

 

[tommybackeast]

They're talking about the SmartZone functionality, which uses a central controller and allows automatic provisioning of ICX switches and ruckus APs, for that indeed you need the latest firmware. However you won't be using that, you'll be using unleashed FW, so it's irrelevant. For maximum stability, stick with the "stable" codetrain which is what's on the guide, 8080. If you like to live dangerously you can jump to more recent code like 8090 or 8092, but you won't gain any more functionality with the AP than you already have

fohdeesha , -- thank you -- (as usual) for explaining that in such an easy to understand manner.

Ruckus, like any Enterprise grade equipment has a massive amount of documentation, and sometimes for us home users new to this stuff, it can be difficult to grasp the entire larger picture of how things work together.

I shall be staying on Ruckus r510AP unleashed 200.8 firmware + Brocade 7250 8080e from 2019.10.29 that you provided. I suspected there was a reason you were still giving us 8080 and not the newer one, lol.
(I don't care if Ruckus has new firmware, is it --fohdeesha approved-- ? lol)

New Question 1.
(just to learn stuff): so you are talking about a different piece of hardware such as "Ruckus ZoneDirector 1000" and a use case might be a large physical office with 20 Ruckus AP deployed; and perhaps 3 Brocade Switches : so this one "Ruckus ZoneDirector" is the "master" to help easily manage both the Ruckus AP and Brocade Switches ?

New Question 2.
I have not played with wifi Heat Maps in years. I appreciate many Wifi HeatMaps for iOS have nasty code and call home with my information.

Thus : can you suggest either a 'safe' WiFi Heat Map for a Windows laptop install or a 'safe' one for either iOS or Android.

Use case: making sure the single r510 is providing proper house overage before securing it to the wall.