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ASUS Pro WS W790E-SAGE SE + Intel Xeon Sapphire Rapids SPR-SP

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foR

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Still far cheaper than I can find a legitimate one (I’m in Australia)

I’ll keep that listing in mind. Thanks
 
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Wow found a retail W5-3433 on reddit 6 month old listing. $700 USD. merry Christmas to me I guess!
 

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I had something like that with my first QYFS boots for a while, extremely slow bios responsiveness and then stuck, and it was terrifying. Don't remember if it was with the ACE or SAGE. Then I did all of the usual emergency routine stuff: reseat cpu, reseat all memory, disconnect gpu, reset cmos, a brief sincere prayer and it worked and never came back. I hope it will disappear for you, too.
Hi, thank you for the response. After countless hours trying the following, i replaced the processor with another and everything is fine now. I recently tried to update the bios, and now at post the qcode counts down after 6f to 00 and the pc starts. Anyone know what the issue is for this and how to fix it? I reverted back to 0215 and the recommended memory settings of xmp and then load optimized defaults, but the problem persists. I also tried one ram at a time and the issue is still present.
 

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I recently tried to update the bios, and now at post the qcode counts down after 6f to 00 and the pc starts. Anyone know what the issue is for this and how to fix it?
sounds like a wait counter for BMC to be ready to respond. press pwr-btn a minute later, let the BMC boot.
 

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sounds like a wait counter for BMC to be ready to respond. press pwr-btn a minute later, let the BMC boot.
Is this when the boot logo appears? You hit the main power button? If so no luck. Contacted asus support, they suggested the standard unplug psu, hold down power button for 30 sec, then wait 5 minutes, plug back in psu and then start to to reset the bmc. They also suggested reflashing the fw for bmc, but all of the fwupdate tools and soctools are dos complain. The system won't boot freedos even though secure boot is off (other os mode, instead if windows uefi). If I don't these steps incorrectly or have the wrong flow, please feel free to chime in. I would really hate to go through the rma process, but that seems to be the last resort. Ty all for your continued help.
 

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Catsmeowies
Take any other processor and try it. I bought the cheapest one for $100 and everything worked, but the symptoms were similar to yours. I think 99% of the time the problem is in your processor.
 

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and now at post the qcode counts down after 6f to 00 and the pc starts.
it starts, ok.
all ASRock Rack counts down in the Dr.Debug LED if wait for BMC(if presses pwr-btn to ealry when BMC is not ready)
this is not an issue, the wait can be disabled but BMC invebtory is not updated then, some sensors can valish.
 

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Has anyone tuned the memory to achieve throughput over 300 Gbps on 8 channels? I've seen results close to 380 Gb/s, but so far I've only managed to get a stable 303 Gb/s at 6800 Mhz. Perhaps this is influenced by the number of cores; I don't have many, only 20.
 

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Perhaps this is influenced by the number of cores; I don't have many, only 20.
right.
AIDA64 cache and mem. benchmark use all cores and adds each result up to one,
you don't know how much bendwidth one thread gets. if you tweak to max. multi bandwidth you may have bad per core bandwidth.
 
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Perhaps this is influenced by the number of cores; I don't have many, only 20.
The memory read speed with AIDA64 on SPR-WS is especially tied to core count, the write speed is mostly independent considering the core count floor is 16 on the overclockable 8 channel chips.

All that being said AIDA64 isn't exactly the best benchmark to show a platform's true memory performance; for example I'm only getting 1414.7GB/s max memory read speed under AIDA64 on my fastest system, but MLC is showing 1834.0GB/s read speed if I enable AVX512 to be used for the test.
 
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Thx for the clarification about core QTY both of you :)
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I see you've been working on this topic for a while, regarding memory settings, could you share your timings? Also, specify which voltages need to be increased to increase the memory frequency and decrease the timings, as the ASUS BIOS has specific names for them that differ from the usual ones.
And a bonus question: does anyone know if utilities that display memory timings?, such as Asrock TimingConfigurator and Asus MemTweakIt, work in Windows 10/11? I've tried the latest versions of these utilities, and they either don't work or provide incorrect information. Are there any other versions that do?
 

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let me prefaces this by saying I don't think I'm particularly good at overclocking. Also my memory was hard-to-OC 64GB dual rank x4 organized sticks:


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The only memory specific voltages I touched were VDD, VDDQ and "VCCD HV 1.14v IN /MC Voltage", all running at 1.35v.
The easiest way to get write speed up was adjusting the bclk since the mesh caps out at 2700MHz normally.


And a bonus question: does anyone know if utilities that display memory timings?
I haven't found any good ones I'd recommend.




The really inflated memory performance numbers I mentioned in my last post were for a sapphire rapids HBM machine which I didn't think you'd be that interested in since it isn't applicable to W790, but here it is anyways:

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I noticed that when the processor is idle, its consumption is at 150 watts, which is clearly too much for 3535X. The BIOS was configured to default settings. I tested this on two freshly installed Windows 10 systems, with no unnecessary background processes running. I encountered a similar situation on an LGA3647, and by changing the BIOS settings, I reduced the consumption to 50 watts. Could you tell me which settings might be responsible?
 

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I noticed that when the processor is idle, its consumption is at 150 watts, which is clearly too much for 3535X.
and by changing the BIOS settings, I reduced the consumption to 50 watts.
50W is very good, you can't have less thought.
reduce mesh clock gives low performance, imagen you have 4 tiles and 10 EMIB drawing power.
what i use is:
(BIOS defaults)
Code:
use high perf.power plan.
but min.processor state = 25% (default is 100%)
cmd window
- to unhide Processor idle demote threshold
powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 4b92d758-5a24-4851-a470-815d78aee119 -ATTRIB_HIDE
- to unhide Processor idle promote threshold
powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 7b224883-b3cc-4d79-819f-8374152cbe7c -ATTRIB_HIDE
now you have 2 more options in power options "processor power management"
default is 40/60
set to 95/98
 
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@RolloZ170
50W is very good, you can't have less thought.
Yah, but it was about my LGA3647 3175X (I will attach a screenshot from hwinfo below).

reduce mesh clock gives low performance, imagen you have 4 tiles and 10 EMIB drawing power.
OMG! I didn't even realize the Mesh consumes so much! I lowered it from x27 to Auto and got -55W at idle. (By the way, the CMD commands didn't change anything, consumption didn't change, so the cache was the reason.)
But 100W at complete idle still bothers me, especially when the 3175X has 8 more cores, and its consumption is half that. I'll try to find the necessary settings...

@All
In general, what is the minimum power consumption of a processor, as reported by owners of these processors in this thread?
 

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(By the way, the CMD commands didn't change anything, consumption didn't change, so the cache was the reason.)
it changes responsibility too, anti lag.
In general, what is the minimum power consumption of a processor, as reported by owners of these processors in this thread?
my w5-3425 wanted min. 76W package power.
you can have less with 24xx/25xx models (single chip, no EMIBs)