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[RolloZ170]

But then again to Export the File, should I use 0.28.0 or NE ?

i use NE because it can search/find is better.

Because NE is NOT exporting any File as .cst Extension (at least, of the Types I tried so far).

seach for "CBS Setup" and click of one result guiedes me to
PE32 image section, save as is gives me *.sct file

 

[luckylinux]

i use NE because it can search/find is better.

seach for "CBS Setup" and click of one result guiedes me to
PE32 image section, save as is gives me *.sct file

Well that didn't help.

But you needed to tell me to Extract as is ... . I was getting crazy because, as I extract everything using Extract Body ..., no .sct File is being used.


Extracting the PE32 Image Section using Extract as is indeed generates a Section_PE32_image_CbsSetupDxeSSP_CbsSetupDxeSSP.sct File .

 

[RolloZ170]

Extracting the PE32 Image Section using Extract as is indeed generates a Section_PE32_image_CbsSetupDxeSSP_CbsSetupDxeSSP.sct File.

its important that you replace as is do with the same file type you have exptracted it.
the PE Image extract as is give a sct file.

 

[luckylinux]

Oups missed that, sorry .

But how do you go from there, that's what I don't get ...

I can somehow navigate using hexdump, but how did you do this ?

Either I can find almost "Human Friendy" using Extract Body, but how do you get this View from the .sct File?

0x1C53C         Suppress If: {0A 82}
0x1C53E             Variable 0x9 equals 0xFF {12 86 09 00 FF 00}
0x1C544                 Not {17 02}
0x1C546             End {29 02}
0x1C548             Ref: UMC Common Options, Variable: 0xFFFF {0F 0F 07 00 07 00 03 00 00 00 FF FF 00 03 70}
0x1C557         End If {29 02}

And how do you find the Bytes exactly ?

Is is something like:
- Find the VarStoreId Location - How ? Using hexdump --canonical Section_PE32_image_CbsSetupDxeSSP_CbsSetupDxeSSP.sct | grep -i AmdSetup doesn't seem to work
- Using the VarOffset, count from the start of the Section ? That seems relatively easy (minus possible that some Variables are Bytes/8 Bits and some are Words/16 Bits, some even bigger), IF you can find the start of the VarStoreId Section

EDIT 1: trying to import the extracted Section_PE32_image_CbsSetupDxeSSP_CbsSetupDxeSSP.sct File using UEFITool 0.28.0 Fails. And if it's not using the UEFITool 0.28.0, and neither seems to be hexdump, I really don't know how you got that View.

ghidra maybe ?

 

[chlastakov]

ACTUALLY IT WORKED

BUT .. ONLY if the Graphics Card is installed in the SHORT (x8) Slot, NOT THE LONG (x16) Slot !!!

Missed that I need x8 graphics. What card did you used? Can't find any for PCIe x8.

My debug display is stuck at b0 code. Is that 0xB0 - RT_SET_VIRTUAL_ADDRESS_MAP_BEGIN from manual? Can be problem with RAM? I used Kingston FURY 32GB KIT DDR4 3200MHz CL16 Beast Black with Ryzen 2600X. Cooler connected to FAN1.

Either way, no monitor output.

 

[luckylinux]

Missed that I need x8 graphics. What card did you used? Can't find any for PCIe x8.

My debug display is stuck at b0 code. Is that 0xB0 - RT_SET_VIRTUAL_ADDRESS_MAP_BEGIN from manual? Can be problem with RAM? I used Kingston FURY 32GB KIT DDR4 3200MHz CL16 Beast Black with Ryzen 2600X. Cooler connected to FAN1.

Either way, no monitor output.

I actually had a Riser like 75cm long (IIRC from Thermaltake) that is x8 on one Side (to connect to the Motherboard) and gives a full x16 (to plug your GPU into). You could say I cheated but hey, it worked .

Not sure if you can do the same Trick with these super cheap x1 to x16 Adapters (which basically use a USB 3.0 Cable to do the connection from the x1 which plugs into the x1/x4/x8x/16 slot on the Motherboard and the x16 Slot that they expose/create for the PCIe Device).

My debug display is stuck at b0 code. Is that 0xB0 - RT_SET_VIRTUAL_ADDRESS_MAP_BEGIN from manual? Can be problem with RAM? I used

Which BIOS Version ?

I never managed to get it stuck on any post Code. The Debug LED always turned off after hanging a bit at B0 B2 etc(cannot remember exactly which combination, I'll have to check the first ~ 8 Pages of this Thread I guess) but between the lack of Network Activity and Display, it SEEMED as if the System was Dead. Except it was not ...

-> Here it is: https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...50d4u-v1lq5-matx-am4.47305/page-5#post-462709
Latest BIOS Post Codes are d6-d7-b2-02. But it would turn off after that. It appeared Dead, but I guess "only" because USB/VGA/NIC weren't working at all .

Kingston FURY 32GB KIT DDR4 3200MHz CL16 Beast Black with Ryzen 2600X. Cooler connected to FAN1.

So 2x16GB ? Plugged in which Slots ?

Either way, no monitor output.

That seems to be the Case at least on BIOS L2.12 and Ryzen 2000 Series CPUs, as confirmed both by me @dbram.

Neither VGA nor Rear USB Ports work . Probably not even the onboard NIC. Looking back since in my Case it was booting alright, one Option could be to use a RJ45 USB Adapter and plug into the FRONT (using a USB 3.0 Header Adapter) USB Port. Then the LiveUSB would have at least contacted the DHCP Server and gotten an IP, signaling it was alive.

EDIT 1: @chlastakov: IIRC the x16 Slot, which has Bifurcation turned ON by Default, messes up the VGA Configuration. As a Result neither the onboard VGA (which does NOT work on the Ryzen 2000 Series CPUs) nor the GPU (if plugged into the x16 Slot) will work correctly .

That's why I gave the x8 Slot a try .

Plus the Supermicro 1U Chassis I was using would NOT even allow to plug the GPU into the x16 Slot without scratching the Motherboard with the PCIe Bracket .

 

[RolloZ170]

Either I can find almost "Human Friendy" using Extract Body, but how do you get this View from the .sct File?

universal IFR Extractor

GitHub - LongSoft/Universal-IFR-Extractor: Utility that can extract the internal forms represenation from both EFI and UEFI modules.

Utility that can extract the internal forms represenation from both EFI and UEFI modules. - LongSoft/Universal-IFR-Extractor

github.com

but maybe your utility can prvide these bytes with a cmd line option too.

 

[luckylinux]

universal IFR Extractor

GitHub - LongSoft/Universal-IFR-Extractor: Utility that can extract the internal forms represenation from both EFI and UEFI modules.

Utility that can extract the internal forms represenation from both EFI and UEFI modules. - LongSoft/Universal-IFR-Extractor

github.com

but maybe your unil. can prvide these bytes with a cmd line option too.

unil ?

So the Legacy ifrextractor behaves differently than the new one (ifrextractor-RS) ?

Because the RS one I always get output that looks like this, nowhere close to what you provided as an Example:

        SuppressIf
            EqIdVal QuestionId: 0x227, Value: 0x43BC
                Not
            End
            OneOf Prompt: "USB20 PORT4", Help: "No help string", QuestionFlags: 0x10, QuestionId: 0x225, VarStoreId: 0x5000, VarOffset: 0x1FE, Flags: 0x10, Size: 8, Min: 0x0, Max: 0xF, Step: 0x0
                OneOfOption Option: "Disable" Value: 0
                OneOfOption Option: "Enable" Value: 1
                OneOfOption Option: "Auto" Value: 15, Default
            End
        End
        SuppressIf
            EqIdVal QuestionId: 0x227, Value: 0x43BC
                Not
            End
            OneOf Prompt: "USB20 PORT5", Help: "No help string", QuestionFlags: 0x10, QuestionId: 0x226, VarStoreId: 0x5000, VarOffset: 0x1FF, Flags: 0x10, Size: 8, Min: 0x0, Max: 0xF, Step: 0x0
                OneOfOption Option: "Disable" Value: 0
                OneOfOption Option: "Enable" Value: 1
                OneOfOption Option: "Auto" Value: 15, Default
            End
        End
        DisableIf
            True
            Numeric Prompt: "", Help: "", QuestionFlags: 0x0, QuestionId: 0x227, VarStoreId: 0x5000, VarOffset: 0xC, Flags: 0x11, Size: 16, Min: 0x0, Max: 0xFFFF, Step: 0x0
            End
        End

EDIT 1: Never mind, if you run RUST_BACKTRACE=1 /opt/uefitools/ifrextractor/default/bin/ifrextractor Section_PE32_image_CbsSetupDxeSSP_CbsSetupDxeSSP.sct verbose it works

So I think if you only run with /opt/uefitools/ifrextractor/default/bin/ifrextractor Section_PE32_image_CbsSetupDxeSSP_CbsSetupDxeSSP.sct or /opt/uefitools/ifrextractor/default/bin/ifrextractor Section_PE32_image_CbsSetupDxeSSP_CbsSetupDxeSSP.sct all, then it gives the Output that I always post.

If you run /opt/uefitools/ifrextractor/default/bin/ifrextractor Section_PE32_image_CbsSetupDxeSSP_CbsSetupDxeSSP.sct verbose then it gives the Output that @RolloZ170 provides.

 

[chlastakov]

I actually had a Riser like 75cm long (IIRC from Thermaltake) that is x8 on one Side (to connect to the Motherboard) and gives a full x16 (to plug your GPU into). You could say I cheated but hey, it worked .

Not sure if you can do the same Trick with these super cheap x1 to x16 Adapters (which basically use a USB 3.0 Cable to do the connection from the x1 which plugs into the x1/x4/x8x/16 slot on the Motherboard and the x16 Slot that they expose/create for the PCIe Device).

Will look into one. For now I found PCIe x4 card, hope that works.

Which BIOS Version ?

Since display never showed up, I have no idea.

I never managed to get it stuck on any post Code. The Debug LED always turned off after hanging a bit at B0 B2 etc(cannot remember exactly which combination, I'll have to check the first ~ 8 Pages of this Thread I guess) but between the lack of Network Activity and Display, it SEEMED as if the System was Dead. Except it was not ...

-> Here it is: https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...50d4u-v1lq5-matx-am4.47305/page-5#post-462709
Latest BIOS Post Codes are d6-d7-b2-02. But it would turn off after that. It appeared Dead, but I guess "only" because USB/VGA/NIC weren't working at all .

It stays on b0 for eternity, won't go off. I couldn't catch previous code, was too quick.

So 2x16GB ? Plugged in which Slots ?

Blue slots of course. Also cleared CMOS before all that.

That seems to be the Case at least on BIOS L2.12 and Ryzen 2000 Series CPUs, as confirmed both by me @dbram.

So VGA worked out of the box with different CPU's?

Neither VGA nor Rear USB Ports work . Probably not even the onboard NIC. Looking back since in my Case it was booting alright, one Option could be to use a RJ45 USB Adapter and plug into the FRONT (using a USB 3.0 Header Adapter) USB Port. Then the LiveUSB would have at least contacted the DHCP Server and gotten an IP, signaling it was alive.

I have USB header, I'll try boot liveubs then.

 

[luckylinux]

Will look into one. For now I found PCIe x4 card, hope that works.

You care only about some kind of Display. You don't need 4K. It will be fine if plugged into the X8 Slot IMHO.

Since display never showed up, I have no idea.

I had L2.09 on mine but it could also be L2.11 based on other Reports I guess.

It stays on b0 for eternity, won't go off. I couldn't catch previous code, was too quick.
Blue slots of course. Also cleared CMOS before all that.

I also cleared CMOS at some point. Did you unplug the CMOS Battery, before you did that, right ? I also tried to replace the CMOS Battery after that but no change. It's the damn 2000 Series CPU ...

So VGA worked out of the box with different CPU's?

With AMD Ryzen 5700X yes, no Problems at all on the 2nd System. Assembled, booted it up with 4x16GB ECC Unbuffered Memory from Micron, it rebooted twice to do its own Memory Timings/Frequency Calibration, then I could go into the BIOS, enable UEFI Boot and Boot my LiveUSB with Ubuntu or the UEFI Shell Flashdrive .

I have USB header, I'll try boot liveubs then.

Your Problem is different though. You are stuck on B0. Not sure why. I didn't use such high-frequency Memory (3200 MHz). Try a single Stick of RAM at 3200MHz on the Ryzen 2000 Series. They are out of Spec for Ryzen 2000 even with a single Stick though. And if Memory fails to Negotiate (or doesn't support lower Frequency) with the BIOS/Memory Controller on the CPU, then it won't work: https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=B450D4U-V1L#Specifications

Your memory is also NOT ECC. Both ECC unbuffered and non-ECC unbuffered should be supported though. Can you try with a different DIMM Module ?

I only had a DIMM in A1 Slot after all the Attempts I did and installed the Cooler which overhang over the A2 Slot. I could have probably used A1+B1 but I was troubleshooting this Motherboard at the Time. And yes, my Memory Frequency was already a bit on the Edge for 2 DIMMs IIRC.

You'd need anyways a RJ45 USB Adapter as well and your LiveUSB need to automatically contact the DHCP Server (you can e.g. set that up in /etc/rc.local if you already enabled the rc-local.service Systemd Service).

 

[luckylinux]

They accepted EUR 8 / piece for 12 pieces plus 20 shipping.

I offered 3 EUR / piece for 25 CPU Coolers at PIO over their Website and they just Accepted .

Gelid 1U Lo Profile Kühler Universal AM 4 CPU für AM4 Board NEU/NEW - Piospartslap

Gelid NEU / NEW CPU Heatsink / CPU Kühler 1U Low Profile für AM4 CPU für AM4 Mainboards Technical data / Technische Daten Manufacturer / Her

www.piospartslap.de

It almost feels like I could have gotten even lower ...

EDIT 1: so 25 x 3.00 EUR plus 24.99 EUR Shipping to Denmark (inclusive of VAT of course)

 

[RolloZ170]

unil ?

sorry, too fat fingers

 

[luckylinux]

sorry, too fat fingers

I understand, don't worry. I feel like they are only good for very few Things

EDIT 1: But @RolloZ170, how do you go from here then ?

Do you modify the extracted File (by ifrextractor <file> verbose -> Section_PE32_image_CbsSetupDxeSSP_CbsSetupDxeSSP.sct.0.0.en-US.uefi.ifr.txt) Directly or you use the Line Numbers of the Left to modify the Binary File directly (Section_PE32_image_CbsSetupDxeSSP_CbsSetupDxeSSP.sct)?

Snippet Example:

Program version: 1.6.0, Extraction mode: UEFI
0x1C47C: FormSet Guid: B04535E3-3004-4946-9EB7-149428983053, Title: "AMD CBS", Help: "AMD CBS Setup Page" { 0E A7 E3 35 45 B0 04 30 46 49 9E B7 14 94 28 98 30 53 03 00 04 00 01 71 99 03 93 45 85 04 4B B4 5E 32 EB 83 26 04 0E }
0x1C4A3:        Guid Guid: 0F0B1735-87A0-4193-B266-538C38AF48CE, ExtendedOpCode: Class, Class: 0x55 { 5F 15 35 17 0B 0F A0 87 93 41 B2 66 53 8C 38 AF 48 CE 03 55 00 }
0x1C4B8:        Guid Guid: 0F0B1735-87A0-4193-B266-538C38AF48CE, ExtendedOpCode: SubClass, SubClass: 0x0 { 5F 15 35 17 0B 0F A0 87 93 41 B2 66 53 8C 38 AF 48 CE 04 00 00 }
0x1C4CD:        DefaultStore DefaultId: 0x0, Name: "" { 5C 06 00 00 00 00 }
0x1C4D3:        DefaultStore DefaultId: 0x1, Name: "" { 5C 06 00 00 01 00 }
0x1C4D9:        VarStore Guid: 3A997502-647A-4C82-998E-52EF9486A247, VarStoreId: 0x5000, Size: 0x611, Name: "AmdSetup" { 24 1F 02 75 99 3A 7A 64 82 4C 99 8E 52 EF 94 86 A2 47 00 50 11 06 41 6D 64 53 65 74 75 70 00 }
0x1C4F8:        Form FormId: 0x7000, Title: "AMD CBS" { 01 86 00 70 03 00 }
0x1C4FE:                Subtitle Prompt: "AMD CBS", Help: "", Flags: 0x0 { 02 87 03 00 00 00 00 }
0x1C505:                End  { 29 02 }
0x1C507:                Subtitle Prompt: "", Help: "", Flags: 0x0 { 02 87 02 00 00 00 00 }
0x1C50E:                End  { 29 02 }
0x1C510:                Ref Prompt: "CPU Common Options", Help: "CPU Common Options", QuestionFlags: 0x0, QuestionId: 0x1, VarStoreId: 0x0, VarStoreInfo: 0xFFFF, FormId: 0x7001 { 0F 0F 05 00 05 00 01 00 00 00 FF FF 00 01 70 }
0x1C51F:                SuppressIf  { 0A 82 }
0x1C521:                        EqIdVal QuestionId: 0x9, Value: 0xFF { 12 86 09 00 FF 00 }
0x1C527:                                Not  { 17 02 }
0x1C529:                        End  { 29 02 }
0x1C52B:                        Ref Prompt: "DF Common Options", Help: "DF Common Options", QuestionFlags: 0x0, QuestionId: 0x2, VarStoreId: 0x0, VarStoreInfo: 0xFFFF, FormId: 0x7002 { 0F 0F 06 00 06 00 02 00 00 00 FF FF 00 02 70 }
0x1C53A:                End  { 29 02 }
0x1C53C:                SuppressIf  { 0A 82 }
0x1C53E:                        EqIdVal QuestionId: 0x9, Value: 0xC { 12 86 09 00 0C 00 }
0x1C544:                                Not  { 17 02 }
0x1C546:                        End  { 29 02 }
0x1C548:                        Ref Prompt: "UMC Common Options", Help: "UMC Common Options", QuestionFlags: 0x0, QuestionId: 0x3, VarStoreId: 0x0, VarStoreInfo: 0xFFFF, FormId: 0x7003 { 0F 0F 07 00 07 00 03 00 00 00 FF FF 00 03 70 }
0x1C557:                End  { 29 02 }
0x1C559:                SuppressIf  { 0A 82 }
0x1C55B:                        EqIdVal QuestionId: 0x9, Value: 0xFF { 12 86 09 00 FF 00 }
0x1C561:                                Not  { 17 02 }
0x1C563:                        End  { 29 02 }
0x1C565:                        Ref Prompt: "NBIO Common Options", Help: "NBIO Common Options", QuestionFlags: 0x0, QuestionId: 0x4, VarStoreId: 0x0, VarStoreInfo: 0xFFFF, FormId: 0x7004 { 0F 0F 08 00 08 00 04 00 00 00 FF FF 00 04 70 }
0x1C574:                End  { 29 02 }
0x1C576:                SuppressIf  { 0A 82 }
0x1C578:                        EqIdVal QuestionId: 0x9, Value: 0xFF { 12 86 09 00 FF 00 }
0x1C57E:                                Not  { 17 02 }
0x1C580:                        End  { 29 02 }
0x1C582:                        Ref Prompt: "FCH Common Options", Help: "FCH Common Options", QuestionFlags: 0x0, QuestionId: 0x5, VarStoreId: 0x0, VarStoreInfo: 0xFFFF, FormId: 0x7005 { 0F 0F 09 00 09 00 05 00 00 00 FF FF 00 05 70 }
0x1C591:                End  { 29 02 }

And these Lines/Address Numbers (e.g. 0x1C47C in Hexadecimal), how do they relate to the hexdump Output (which I assume it's Line/Address Numbers in Decimal)

 

[chlastakov]

@luckylinux Yes, I understand I'll be okay with ANY display I just bought unnecessarily expensive PCIe x4 graphics and it still doesn't work. Connected it to second slot of course.

I cleared CMOS when battery was out. I know it worked, because before that, MB was turning on right after connecting power. Now it doesn't and waits until I press power button.

I ordered 2600X because BIOS flash as you did. Yours 5700X worked before BIOS flash?

I believe as you are that my problem is with memory. Unfortunately I don't have other DDR4 than registered for servers. Those non-ECC I bought only to test this MB. I know freq is too high, probably I will order older pieces from eBay. I tested with one DIMM too, same result.

So that RJ45 doesn't work at all, or doesn't work with 5700X?

 

[luckylinux]

@luckylinux Yes, I understand I'll be okay with ANY display I just bought unnecessarily expensive PCIe x4 graphics and it still doesn't work. Connected it to second slot of course.

Weird .

I used a very old GPU though, so probably no UEFI support at all. By default the BIOS will work in CSM Boot, so if the GPU only supports UEFI then it might not work. I know at least on some GPU there is a microswitch to change the Mode, but that was on some quite expensive and bulky GPU IIRC.

Definitively NO microswitch on the small and very old GPU that I used (NVIDIA GT610 with 1GB DDR3 RAM)

I cleared CMOS when battery was out. I know it worked, because before that, MB was turning on right after connecting power. Now it doesn't and waits until I press power button.

IIRC the 2600X only booted ONCE with Display working. Then never again.

I ordered 2600X because BIOS flash as you did. Yours 5700X worked before BIOS flash?

As you probably could read from my Report like 14 Pages ago (and @dbram more recently), the AMD Ryzen 2000 (2600X) actually created many more Issues than it fixed . Looking back there was a huge amount of Pain and some Money that could have been saved by NOT purchasing an AMD 2600X .

On the 2nd Motherboard I tested, the AMD 5700X worked basically out of the Box. That Motherboard was delivered with BIOS L2.09. No BIOS Reset to Default / Clear CMOS done. Nothing at all. Install. Boot. Let it reboot twice. Good to go . Apart from the ECC Memory for which my Script works kinda OK (but needs to be checked in Linux after boot) or ALinden Modded BIOS could also be a Solution.

I believe as you are that my problem is with memory. Unfortunately I don't have other DDR4 than registered for servers. Those non-ECC I bought only to test this MB. I know freq is too high, probably I will order older pieces from eBay. I tested with one DIMM too, same result.

Did you have a look at my other Thread ? I did NOT test these yet though !

And it seems like many People struggled with getting a Combined Offer / Shipping through PIO. Try to send them an Offer on their Webshop. The 1st Time my Offer was accepted on eBay, then they kept rejecting. Finally sending the Offer through their Website was approved. See

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/atp-x4c16qe8bnrcse-7-li1-16gb-ddr4-2400-udimm-ecc-probably-samsung-dram-chip.47556/

In particular:

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/atp-x4c16qe8bnrcse-7-li1-16gb-ddr4-2400-udimm-ecc-probably-samsung-dram-chip.47556/page-3#post-464801

So that RJ45 doesn't work at all, or doesn't work with 5700X?

You are misunderstanding. It's the other Way around. The list of Issues about VGA, Rear USB and even onboard Ethernet (when I thought my Motherboard was bricked or CPU was fake) were related to the 2600X !

With the 2600X I couldn't reach the LiveUSB Flashdrive via ssh which is kinda the only thing you can do since a) Graphic Output is not working and b) There is no Serial Port you can use for a Null-Modem type Cable (to e.g. Debug/Control using minicom or similar Tools)

Ethernet / onboard RJ45 NIC works fine on the 5700X. VGA is also fine, worked since first Boot out of the Box. Rear USB I didn't test yet to be honest.

Let me try Rear USB quickly ...

EDIT 1: On AMD Ryzen 5700X, Rear USB Ports work Fine. Well, at least 1 of them (I did NOT test both rear Ports).

On the AMD Ryzen 2600X Rear USB Port is Dead ! That was driving me crazy with the Keyboard not working either !

EDIT 2: @chlastakov the Price I paid was 14-15 EUR / DIMM, either on eBay or on their Website (for 24 DIMMs bought each Time). I don't think their Website has a maximum number of Times they can reject your Offer before you cannot send any anymore. But then again, 2 out of 2 Times, my offer were Accepted so I don't really know.

Heck 3 EUR / Piece for this Gelid Cooler (well, 4 EUR / Piece if you count the Shipping) for 25 Pieces.

 

[chlastakov]

And it seems like many People struggled with getting a Combined Offer / Shipping through PIO. Try to send them an Offer on their Webshop. The 1st Time my Offer was accepted on eBay, then they kept rejecting. Finally sending the Offer through their Website was approved. See

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/atp-x4c16qe8bnrcse-7-li1-16gb-ddr4-2400-udimm-ecc-probably-samsung-dram-chip.47556/

In particular:

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/atp-x4c16qe8bnrcse-7-li1-16gb-ddr4-2400-udimm-ecc-probably-samsung-dram-chip.47556/page-3#post-464801

Sent deal for 24 pieces using eBay. They accepted my other deals recently without problem. If they reject, I try their website too.

You are misunderstanding. It's the other Way around. The list of Issues about VGA, Rear USB and even onboard Ethernet (when I thought my Motherboard was bricked or CPU was fake) were related to the 2600X !

Looks like I can fix almost all ordering 5700X. And if I remember correctly, ECC should work out of the box with 3000 series CPU's.

I read most of this thread. I need to read it one more time and make some notes. I'm sometimes struggling with english, which is why I understnad slowly Thank you for your patience.

 

[luckylinux]

Sent deal for 24 pieces using eBay. They accepted my other deals recently without problem. If they reject, I try their website too.

So I'm not the only one that orders in big Batches . How much did you Offer each ?

Looks like I can fix almost all ordering 5700X. And if I remember correctly, ECC should work out of the box with 3000 series CPU's.

I read most of this thread. I need to read it one more time and make some notes. I'm sometimes struggling with english, which is why I understnad slowly Thank you for your patience.

I tend to agree with what @dbram said, even if I don't own an AMD Ryzen 3000 Series. The AMD Ryzen 3000 Series would be the best out of the Box Experience IMHO on this Board.

On the AMD Ryzen 3000 Series you would NOT have Issues with VGA/Rear USB/NIC (which you'd have with the AMD Ryzen 2000 CPU Series), at the same ECC would work out of the Box and there would be NO Menu being hidden (which you'd have with the AMD Ryzen 5000 CPU Series, and can be somewhat fixed with BIOS Patching, either by Flashing or running setup_var.efi Commands).

EDIT 1:

I read most of this thread. I need to read it one more time and make some notes. I'm sometimes struggling with english, which is why I understnad slowly Thank you for your patience.

Your English is fine . In general l prefer to put emphasis on some important Words like didn't -> did NOT, can't -> cannot, etc, which is not grammatically correct (at least some of them are NOT), but at least it's clear that is a NO/NOT, which maybe otherwise some People might just skip over ... I think some People do NOT like this especially the uppercase, but I think Clarity should be the top Priority when trying to convey Messages .

 

[chlastakov]

So I'm not the only one that orders in big Batches . How much did you Offer each ?

No, you are definitely not Since postage is not negligible cost, it doesn't make sense to me buy piece by piece. Offered €12 per piece.

I tend to agree with what @dbram said, even if I don't own an AMD Ryzen 3000 Series. The AMD Ryzen 3000 Series would be the best out of the Box Experience IMHO on this Board.

On the AMD Ryzen 3000 Series you would NOT have Issues with VGA/Rear USB/NIC (which you'd have with the AMD Ryzen 2000 CPU Series), at the same ECC would work out of the Box and there would be NO Menu being hidden (which you'd have with the AMD Ryzen 5000 CPU Series, and can be somewhat fixed with BIOS Patching, either by Flashing or running setup_var.efi Commands).

Ordered both 3700X and 5700X. I want to make these work, but I also want to play with BIOS/UEFI patching.

Your English is fine . In general l prefer to put emphasis on some important Words like didn't -> did NOT, can't -> cannot, etc, which is not grammatically correct (at least some of them are NOT), but at least it's clear that is a NO/NOT, which maybe otherwise some People might just skip over ... I think some People do NOT like this especially the uppercase, but I think Clarity should be the top Priority when trying to convey Messages .

Makes sense

 

[luckylinux]

No, you are definitely not Since postage is not negligible cost, it doesn't make sense to me buy piece by piece. Offered €12 per piece.

WOW 12 EUR / piece (so I guess around 13 EUR / piece including shipping). I wasn't brave enough I guess .

Ordered both 3700X and 5700X. I want to make these work, but I also want to play with BIOS/UEFI patching.

Depends how much Play you want I guess

EDIT 1: @chlastakov let me know how that Offer goes with PIO. I might need to Order another 40-48 DIMMs from them now that I bought another 12 Motherboards

 

[chlastakov]

WOW 12 EUR / piece (so I guess around 13 EUR / piece including shipping). I wasn't brave enough I guess .

They didn't accepted yet Let you know when I know more.

Depends how much Play you want I guess

Complete 24 machines to working state, smells like a lot of money