Simpson quote:There are still at least 2x12 + 30 on eBay for sale if you want more
I will not order additional ASRock Rack B450D4U-V1LQ5 boards, even if they're a good deal.
Simpson quote:There are still at least 2x12 + 30 on eBay for sale if you want more
I will not order additional ASRock Rack B450D4U-V1LQ5 boards, even if they're a good deal.
You can get up to 32gbps so 25gbps is a possibility. Do you want to route 25gbps from one Port to the Other ?You suggested 2x25GbE cards on x4 electrical, which doesn't make any sense if you truly want to utilize the network, not just to say its attached to the motherboard.
Sure, buried in one of the many PagesAs you've seen, reading the manual doesn't always lets you think correctly ... the board supports x8x4x4, along with few other things, missing from the manual, as stated in the thread.
I always use gbps but OK if you think a Byte (B) is the same as a bit (b) that's up to youSince it seems you want to nit-pick things - its 25GbE - I am sure you can check the manuals about that one too![]()
and he'll go after any amd 3xxx or 5xxxx cpu deals too
I got a couple of the PCIe X16 to X8X4X4 Adapter that you suggested, to see if I can at some Point make a use out of itHere are some items I ordered in the past
Thing is, I have these black plastics, they came with boards. There must be cheap compatible cooler that will definitely fit I believe. Had something similar on older sockets.Aaah you want to put an AMD Stock Cooler with those Plastic Holders that sit on the Motherboard ?
Well ... they are NOT delivered with this Motherboard (unless I missed a Bag in the Package or something, possibly where the I/O Shields are).
I guess that since this is a custom Server Motherboard (as opposed to a consumer Motherboard), then don't deliver those.
And most Aftermarket Coolers (Noctua, Thermalright, probably many more such as BeQuiet etc) will have their own Mounting Kit anyways.
You just have 4 threaded Holes. Then similar Screws to what it's used with these Plastic Holders (same Thread, probably slightly different Length and Head Shape) are inserted through the Metal Part delivered by the OEM, with some Plastic Standoff to set the required Spacing from the Motherboard (matching the height/spacing provided by those AMD Plastic Holders)
I didn't check in detail but I guess there's not much you cannot find on Aliexpress so probably some Article like this e.g. searchamd am4 bracket(check in more Detail):
30 EUR is more I'm willing to give considering I need 12 pieces. This is more like price tag I'd like:I didn't check to see if I had any cable at all. For sure NOT in the 2 Motherboards I pulled out of the Box. But knowing how I'm "lucky", they will come out with the last Motherboard I pull out, I'm sure of it.
Cheap Good. Pick one ...
The Noctua NH-L9x65 (doesn't even Fit according to Noctua Support) and Similar will struggle with a 8 Core CPU ...
30 EUR for that Thermalright isn't a bad Deal IMHO if you don't mind it being White. I didn't want to pay extra for Black since in Forced Air Cooling (Forced Convection) the Color of the Cooler (Black is better for Radiation) shouldn't matter too Much
The Thermalright should be better than this one for sure (search:amd stock cooler, but probablyamd am4 coolerwould also work):
OK, so it's not a 90° Adapter actually, the other Card (NIC in your Case) goes in straight from the Top ?A low profile card in the x8 slot has the same height as a normal full height card.
The screw hole does not line up perfectly unless you got a card with both notches in the bracket tho (low/full profile has screw holes in different positions).
I got these adapters with 2x 25gbe cards on the x8 slot for all my ryzen builds.

Thank you for your tips. Will definitely test before I buy 12 pieces. Also, I see AXP120-X67 marked as "Frequently returned":If you want to go for the Cheapest possibly this one should be close to the AMD Stock Cooler. No experience with either though:
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Or the smaller Thermalright brother ?
But IMHO you shouldn't design your System to be at 90°C at full Load.
In my Case I'd expect also the Thermalright AXP120-X67 and that one has 6 Heatpipes (meaning the Heat Transfer will be so much better compared to a 0 or 2 Heatpipes Cooler).
I'd run a Test at full load with one of these Coolers (or the one you suggested) before buying 12 of those if I were you.
IMHO all of the ones I mention in this Post (except the Thermalright AXP120-X67) are greatly undersized for a 2700X/3700X/5700X and probably on the Edge (100°C ?) for a 2600X
As tempting as it might be ive already spent almost 10k more than planned in the last week
So a 2U system would become 4U essentially. Not a Problem if you already planned to use a Midi ATX Tower / 4U Chassis of course. But I'm coming from the Opposite Angle and if I need to go from 2U / Silverstone ML03 to 4U / Midi ATX Tower Form Factor, it's also another Volume that the Case Occupiesexactly as Cruzader mentionned, a low profile X710 in the upper X16 (mechanical, X8 electrical) slot of the riser, and indeed the low profile brackets, more or less match with a bit of trial and error into a full height pcie of the case
Yes.Is that Euros or?
After bios mod I did a quick compare of SCELNX output, and to me it seems that the settings were the same between original and modded bios. But only with modded bios ECC would be activated upon boot.@ALinden: What about the Configuration Settings that I asked for ? Did you have a chance to dump these now that you did the BIOS Mod ?
I had shared with you thedmidecodeOutput a while ago already
You have experience with these? Will they cool down 2600X better then those discussed?Yes.
Got some good deals on pallets of servers that i could not refuse.
Also for coolers that was discussed a bit earlier, pio still have 600+ left of these after the mc12-le0 boards as most boards sold without coolers.
Would expect some fairly low offers for 12pcs to be accepted.
If they are better than those mentioned i dont know, ive used them for multiple 5700x builds for over a year and not had any temp issues tho.You have experience with these? Will they cool down 2600X better then those discussed?
Few hundredsI expected the same to happend with this as the mc12-le0, their remaining stock is bought up by resellers that then take over the market.
I was tempted at making a 15€/ea offer for a few hundread boards myself.
The alpha38 account now listing single boards at a higher cost is the same seller tho.
Is that MC12-LE0 deal still a thing? I'd like one too.If they are better than those mentioned i dont know, ive used them for multiple 5700x builds for over a year and not had any temp issues tho.
The first round of MC12-LE0 boards i bought had these included.
Im not hitting any limits beyond maybe uploads, but im increasingly getting a fairly long loading time when posting replies.I don't know where you get the impression I'm having fun.
If somebody would bother to fix this stupid character limitation in this forum MAYBE I wouldn't have to split them into separate posts.
That's actually a quite nice Case. If it wasn't double the Price of the Silverstone ML03 I might have considered it.I assembled my second board with 5700X in SilverStone RM23-502-MINI with Dynatron A47 cooler.
Rear USB works, VGA output works with default settings (CSM = enabled, video Oprom policy = legacy only, boot mode=legacy)
I used ECC RAM. dmidecode did show Total Width greater than Data Width, but did not show "Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC" for memory.
I will have to investigate further.
root@HOST:/# dmesg | grep -i EDAC
[ 41.382956] EDAC MC0: Giving out device to module ie31200_edac controller IE31200: DEV 0000:00:00.0 (POLLED)
Handle 0x001F, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
Socket Designation: CPU Internal L2
Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 2
Operational Mode: Write Back
Location: Internal
Installed Size: 1 MB
Maximum Size: 1 MB
Supported SRAM Types:
Synchronous
Installed SRAM Type: Synchronous
Speed: Unknown
Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
System Type: Unified
Associativity: 8-way Set-associative
Handle 0x0020, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
Socket Designation: CPU Internal L3
Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 3
Operational Mode: Write Back
Location: Internal
Installed Size: 8 MB
Maximum Size: 8 MB
Supported SRAM Types:
Synchronous
Installed SRAM Type: Synchronous
Speed: Unknown
Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
System Type: Unified
Associativity: 16-way Set-associative
Handle 0x0022, DMI type 16, 23 bytes
Physical Memory Array
Location: System Board Or Motherboard
Use: System Memory
Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
Maximum Capacity: 32 GB
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Number Of Devices: 4
Handle 0x0023, DMI type 17, 34 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0022
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8 GB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMMA1
Bank Locator: P0_Node0_Channel0_Dimm0
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1600 MT/s
Manufacturer: Hynix/Hyundai
Serial Number: XXXXXXXXXX
Asset Tag: 9876543210
Part Number: HMT41GU7BFR8A-PB
Rank: 2
Configured Memory Speed: 1600 MT/s
Handle 0x0024, DMI type 17, 34 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0022
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8 GB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMMA2
Bank Locator: P0_Node0_Channel0_Dimm1
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1600 MT/s
Manufacturer: Hynix/Hyundai
Serial Number: XXXXXXXXXX
Asset Tag: 9876543210
Part Number: HMT41GU7BFR8A-PB
Rank: 2
Configured Memory Speed: 1600 MT/s
Handle 0x0025, DMI type 17, 34 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0022
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8 GB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMMB1
Bank Locator: P0_Node0_Channel1_Dimm0
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1600 MT/s
Manufacturer: Hynix/Hyundai
Serial Number: XXXXXXXXXX
Asset Tag: 9876543210
Part Number: HMT41GU7AFR8C-PB
Rank: 2
Configured Memory Speed: 1600 MT/s
Handle 0x0026, DMI type 17, 34 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0022
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8 GB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMMB2
Bank Locator: P0_Node0_Channel1_Dimm1
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1600 MT/s
Manufacturer: Hynix/Hyundai
Serial Number: XXXXXXXXXX
Asset Tag: 9876543210
Part Number: HMT41GU7AFR8C-PB
Rank: 2
Configured Memory Speed: 1600 MT/s
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dmidecode shows Multi-bit ECC only for the L3 Cache at least (on Supermicro X10SLM+-F).the "limits" are not same for all users and depends on the place/thread. don't ask me why.Im not hitting any limits beyond maybe uploads,
What will you do with them?More like 24 Pieces now that I pulled the trigger on another Box of 12
Very weird. Are you sure you are in the right Memory "Section" (32GB or 64GB depending on what you have installed) ? Although I guess also the L2 and L3 should have some kind of ECC (like mine shows).It seems "Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC" might be only with registered RAM.
On a E3 1230 v3sysem using unbuffered ECC DDR3 is see in the "Physical Memory Array" section:
"Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC"
However with my 5700X I have at the moment:
"Error Correction Type: None"
Handle 0x0031, DMI type 16, 23 bytes
Physical Memory Array
Location: System Board Or Motherboard
Use: System Memory
Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
Maximum Capacity: 128 GB
Error Information Handle: 0x0030
Number Of Devices: 4
Handle 0x0032, DMI type 19, 31 bytes
Memory Array Mapped Address
Starting Address: 0x00000000000
Ending Address: 0x000CFFFFFFF
Range Size: 3328 MB
Physical Array Handle: 0x0031
Partition Width: 4
Handle 0x0033, DMI type 19, 31 bytes
Memory Array Mapped Address
Starting Address: 0x00100000000
Ending Address: 0x0202FFFFFFF
Range Size: 127744 MB
Physical Array Handle: 0x0031
Partition Width: 4
Handle 0x0034, DMI type 7, 27 bytes
Cache Information
Socket Designation: L1 - Cache
Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 1
Operational Mode: Write Back
Location: Internal
Installed Size: 1 MB
Maximum Size: 1 MB
Supported SRAM Types:
Pipeline Burst
Installed SRAM Type: Pipeline Burst
Speed: 1 ns
Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
System Type: Unified
Associativity: 8-way Set-associative
Handle 0x0035, DMI type 7, 27 bytes
Cache Information
Socket Designation: L2 - Cache
Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 2
Operational Mode: Write Back
Location: Internal
Installed Size: 8 MB
Maximum Size: 8 MB
Supported SRAM Types:
Pipeline Burst
Installed SRAM Type: Pipeline Burst
Speed: 1 ns
Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
System Type: Unified
Associativity: 8-way Set-associative
Handle 0x0036, DMI type 7, 27 bytes
Cache Information
Socket Designation: L3 - Cache
Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 3
Operational Mode: Write Back
Location: Internal
Installed Size: 64 MB
Maximum Size: 64 MB
Supported SRAM Types:
Pipeline Burst
Installed SRAM Type: Pipeline Burst
Speed: 1 ns
Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
System Type: Unified
Associativity: 16-way Set-associative
Handle 0x0039, DMI type 17, 92 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0031
Error Information Handle: 0x0038
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 32 GB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM_A1
Bank Locator: BANK 0
Type: DDR4
Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
Speed: 3200 MT/s
Manufacturer: Kingston
Serial Number: XXXXXXXXXX
Asset Tag: Not Specified
Part Number: 9965745-039.A00G
Rank: 2
Configured Memory Speed: 3200 MT/s
Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
Configured Voltage: 1.2 V
Memory Technology: DRAM
Memory Operating Mode Capability: Volatile memory
Firmware Version: Unknown
Module Manufacturer ID: Bank 2, Hex 0x98
Module Product ID: Unknown
Memory Subsystem Controller Manufacturer ID: Unknown
Memory Subsystem Controller Product ID: Unknown
Non-Volatile Size: None
Volatile Size: 32 GB
Cache Size: None
Logical Size: None
Handle 0x003A, DMI type 20, 35 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
Starting Address: 0x00000000000
Ending Address: 0x01FFFFFFFFF
Range Size: 128 GB
Physical Device Handle: 0x0039
Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0033
Partition Row Position: Unknown
Interleave Position: Unknown
Interleaved Data Depth: Unknown
Handle 0x003B, DMI type 18, 23 bytes
32-bit Memory Error Information
Type: OK
Granularity: Unknown
Operation: Unknown
Vendor Syndrome: Unknown
Memory Array Address: Unknown
Device Address: Unknown
Resolution: Unknown
Handle 0x003C, DMI type 17, 92 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0031
Error Information Handle: 0x003B
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 32 GB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM_A2
Bank Locator: BANK 1
Type: DDR4
Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
Speed: 3200 MT/s
Manufacturer: Kingston
Serial Number: XXXXXXXXXX
Asset Tag: Not Specified
Part Number: 9965745-039.A00G
Rank: 2
Configured Memory Speed: 3200 MT/s
Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
Configured Voltage: 1.2 V
Memory Technology: DRAM
Memory Operating Mode Capability: Volatile memory
Firmware Version: Unknown
Module Manufacturer ID: Bank 2, Hex 0x98
Module Product ID: Unknown
Memory Subsystem Controller Manufacturer ID: Unknown
Memory Subsystem Controller Product ID: Unknown
Non-Volatile Size: None
Volatile Size: 32 GB
Cache Size: None
Logical Size: None
Handle 0x003D, DMI type 20, 35 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
Starting Address: 0x00000000000
Ending Address: 0x01FFFFFFFFF
Range Size: 128 GB
Physical Device Handle: 0x003C
Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0033
Partition Row Position: Unknown
Interleave Position: Unknown
Interleaved Data Depth: Unknown
Handle 0x003E, DMI type 18, 23 bytes
32-bit Memory Error Information
Type: OK
Granularity: Unknown
Operation: Unknown
Vendor Syndrome: Unknown
Memory Array Address: Unknown
Device Address: Unknown
Resolution: Unknown
Handle 0x003F, DMI type 17, 92 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0031
Error Information Handle: 0x003E
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 32 GB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM_B1
Bank Locator: BANK 2
Type: DDR4
Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
Speed: 3200 MT/s
Manufacturer: Kingston
Serial Number: XXXXXXXXXX
Asset Tag: Not Specified
Part Number: 9965745-020.A00G
Rank: 2
Configured Memory Speed: 3200 MT/s
Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
Configured Voltage: 1.2 V
Memory Technology: DRAM
Memory Operating Mode Capability: Volatile memory
Firmware Version: Unknown
Module Manufacturer ID: Bank 2, Hex 0x98
Module Product ID: Unknown
Memory Subsystem Controller Manufacturer ID: Unknown
Memory Subsystem Controller Product ID: Unknown
Non-Volatile Size: None
Volatile Size: 32 GB
Cache Size: None
Logical Size: None
Handle 0x0040, DMI type 20, 35 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
Starting Address: 0x00000000000
Ending Address: 0x01FFFFFFFFF
Range Size: 128 GB
Physical Device Handle: 0x003F
Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0033
Partition Row Position: Unknown
Interleave Position: Unknown
Interleaved Data Depth: Unknown
Handle 0x0041, DMI type 18, 23 bytes
32-bit Memory Error Information
Type: OK
Granularity: Unknown
Operation: Unknown
Vendor Syndrome: Unknown
Memory Array Address: Unknown
Device Address: Unknown
Resolution: Unknown
Handle 0x0042, DMI type 17, 92 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0031
Error Information Handle: 0x0041
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 32 GB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM_B2
Bank Locator: BANK 3
Type: DDR4
Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
Speed: 3200 MT/s
Manufacturer: Kingston
Serial Number: XXXXXXXXXX
Asset Tag: Not Specified
Part Number: 9965745-020.A00G
Rank: 2
Configured Memory Speed: 3200 MT/s
Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
Configured Voltage: 1.2 V
Memory Technology: DRAM
Memory Operating Mode Capability: Volatile memory
Firmware Version: Unknown
Module Manufacturer ID: Bank 2, Hex 0x98
Module Product ID: Unknown
Memory Subsystem Controller Manufacturer ID: Unknown
Memory Subsystem Controller Product ID: Unknown
Non-Volatile Size: None
Volatile Size: 32 GB
Cache Size: None
Logical Size: None
Handle 0x0043, DMI type 20, 35 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
Starting Address: 0x00000000000
Ending Address: 0x01FFFFFFFFF
Range Size: 128 GB
Physical Device Handle: 0x0042
Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0033
Partition Row Position: Unknown
Interleave Position: Unknown
Interleaved Data Depth: Unknown
root@HOST:~# dmesg | grep -i EDAC
[ 0.803977] EDAC MC: Ver: 3.0.0
[ 25.318611] EDAC MC0: Giving out device to module amd64_edac controller F19h_M20h: DEV 0000:00:18.3 (INTERRUPT)
[ 25.318620] EDAC amd64: F19h_M20h detected (node 0).
[ 25.318626] EDAC MC: UMC0 chip selects:
[ 25.318627] EDAC amd64: MC: 0: 16384MB 1: 16384MB
[ 25.318631] EDAC amd64: MC: 2: 16384MB 3: 16384MB
[ 25.318637] EDAC MC: UMC1 chip selects:
[ 25.318638] EDAC amd64: MC: 0: 16384MB 1: 16384MB
[ 25.318642] EDAC amd64: MC: 2: 16384MB 3: 16384MB
Mainly to play, test things on desk. I bought this for playing. Probably learn Kubernetes clustering, build separate NAS. Since they were super cheap, learn how to hack BIOSStill undecided to be honest. I was thinking of migrating off the Supermicro X10SLL-F/X10SLM-F Series since this is approx. 4 Times more CPU Power with the 5700X (and twice the RAM), but nothing set in Stone, especially since nobody wants to buy my 2nd Hand Gear here in Denmark. But the Supermicro X10SLL-F/X10SLM-F and even better the Supermicro X11SSL-F/X11SSM-F still has something I miss in these newer (Fujitsu TX1320, ASRock Rack B450D4U-V1LQ5) Systems: some PCIe Slot (x8 or x16 Mechanical or open-Ended x4) connected to the PCH/DMI/Chipset. Yeah, it's slow, but for ASPM to work on the Mellanox ConnectX-4 LX, that seems like the only Option (and should still be enough for 10gbps).
But in Terms of Software, pretty sure I'll go with Proxmox VE for the Host as usual. Then some VMs for OPNSense (originally I thought I'd use the Xeon E3 v6 for that, but maybe not, let's see), a/several VMs for Docker/Podman Containers (heck might even try to run Kubernetes in the long term), some heavy intensive Builders / Distcc Helpers I guess. I don't think I'll go the HA route with CEPH, I'll probably just stick with ZFS as usual too.
Given it's an AMD Ryzen System, maybe one I could use to mine some XMR, unsure. I never went into Crypto but maybe a bit could be useful.
I also asked @Cruzader like 5 Times what he's doing with his Stuff and he never answered. Wonder if he's working towards cracking some Encryption or whatnot (although GPUs would be way better for that)
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EDIT 1: @chlastakov: and what are you going to do with your 12?
They accepted EUR 8 / piece for 12 pieces plus 20 shipping.Yes.
Got some good deals on pallets of servers that i could not refuse.
Also for coolers that was discussed a bit earlier, pio still have 600+ left of these after the mc12-le0 boards as most boards sold without coolers.
Would expect some fairly low offers for 12pcs to be accepted.
you have to find the bytes of "EqIdVal QuestionId: 0x9, Value: 0xC" in the CbsSetupDxeXX.sct file,I'd still like to understand exactly how you did it (how you modified & rebuilt the BIOS exactly)
0x1C53C Suppress If: {0A 82}
0x1C53E Variable 0x9 equals 0xFF {12 86 09 00 FF 00}
0x1C544 Not {17 02}
0x1C546 End {29 02}
0x1C548 Ref: UMC Common Options, Variable: 0xFFFF {0F 0F 07 00 07 00 03 00 00 00 FF FF 00 03 70}
0x1C557 End If {29 02}
What do you mean exactly ?Just for clarification that these mysterious - V1LQ5 boards are nothing other then normal V1L boards. No M.2, no PCIe-Slot4 and so on. Why you guys keep separating them?
View attachment 43032
NE = NewEngine = no modify of BIOS.Are you talking about this Release to do the Replacement ? Release 0.28.0 · LongSoft/UEFITool
Or is it a Release in another Repository ?