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luckylinux said:
Aaah you want to put an AMD Stock Cooler with those Plastic Holders that sit on the Motherboard ?

Well ... they are NOT delivered with this Motherboard (unless I missed a Bag in the Package or something, possibly where the I/O Shields are).

I guess that since this is a custom Server Motherboard (as opposed to a consumer Motherboard), then don't deliver those.

And most Aftermarket Coolers (Noctua, Thermalright, probably many more such as BeQuiet etc) will have their own Mounting Kit anyways.

You just have 4 threaded Holes. Then similar Screws to what it's used with these Plastic Holders (same Thread, probably slightly different Length and Head Shape) are inserted through the Metal Part delivered by the OEM, with some Plastic Standoff to set the required Spacing from the Motherboard (matching the height/spacing provided by those AMD Plastic Holders)

I didn't check in detail but I guess there's not much you cannot find on Aliexpress so probably some Article like this e.g. search amd am4 bracket (check in more Detail):
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Thing is, I have these black plastics, they came with boards. There must be cheap compatible cooler that will definitely fit I believe. Had something similar on older sockets.

I also got USB and audio cables, but only 5 for 12 board unfortunately :-(
 
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luckylinux said:
I didn't check to see if I had any cable at all. For sure NOT in the 2 Motherboards I pulled out of the Box. But knowing how I'm "lucky", they will come out with the last Motherboard I pull out, I'm sure of it o_O .

Cheap Good. Pick one ...

The Noctua NH-L9x65 (doesn't even Fit according to Noctua Support) and Similar will struggle with a 8 Core CPU ...

30 EUR for that Thermalright isn't a bad Deal IMHO if you don't mind it being White. I didn't want to pay extra for Black since in Forced Air Cooling (Forced Convection) the Color of the Cooler (Black is better for Radiation) shouldn't matter too Much

The Thermalright should be better than this one for sure (search: amd stock cooler, but probably amd am4 cooler would also work):
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30 EUR is more I'm willing to give considering I need 12 pieces. This is more like price tag I'd like:
But have no idea if this will cool down 2600X. This will be my first experience with AMD board & CPU since Duron and I'm still waiting for CPU's. Then I will be more useful testing your scripts :)
 
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luckylinux said:
If you want to go for the Cheapest possibly this one should be close to the AMD Stock Cooler. No experience with either though:

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ARCTIC Alpine 23 ab 5,75 € | Preisvergleich bei idealo.de

Bereits ab 5,75 € ✓ Große Shopvielfalt ✓ Testberichte & Meinungen ✓ | Jetzt ARCTIC Alpine 23 günstig kaufen bei idealo.de
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Or maybe this ?
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SilverStone Kryton KR01 ab 17,48 € | Preisvergleich bei idealo.de

Bereits ab 17,48 € ✓ Große Shopvielfalt ✓ Testberichte & Meinungen ✓ | Jetzt SilverStone Kryton KR01 günstig kaufen bei idealo.de
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Or the smaller Thermalright brother ?

But IMHO you shouldn't design your System to be at 90°C at full Load.

In my Case I'd expect also the Thermalright AXP120-X67 and that one has 6 Heatpipes (meaning the Heat Transfer will be so much better compared to a 0 or 2 Heatpipes Cooler).

I'd run a Test at full load with one of these Coolers (or the one you suggested) before buying 12 of those if I were you.

IMHO all of the ones I mention in this Post (except the Thermalright AXP120-X67) are greatly undersized for a 2700X/3700X/5700X and probably on the Edge (100°C ?) for a 2600X
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Thank you for your tips. Will definitely test before I buy 12 pieces. Also, I see AXP120-X67 marked as "Frequently returned":
 
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Small update from me:

Unsuppressed "Platform first error reporting" setting. This should be disabled for ECC reporting to work.
I do not have Memtest paid version to test error injection.
When I have some time I plan to test other methods to induce errors (memory overclock, pin shortening, heat) and verify error reporting.

Instant Flash does not like the modded bios. CH341 programmer works for me.

Unfortunately I did not find the settings @hmartin wanted in CbsSetupDxe

You can find my modded bios (and some notes about this board) here: GitHub - AndrewLinden/B450D4U-V1LQ5: ASRock Rack B450D4U-V1LQ5
 
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@luckylinux the last 6 posts in this thread are from you, some only minutes after the next and related to the previous one.

Please consider editing your posts to amend information instead of making more and more. The many posts bloat the thread and discourage people from reading 20+ pages of posts to catch up...
 
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luckylinux said:
Is that Euros or :cool: ?
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Yes.
Got some good deals on pallets of servers that i could not refuse.

Also for coolers that was discussed a bit earlier, pio still have 600+ left of these after the mc12-le0 boards as most boards sold without coolers.
Would expect some fairly low offers for 12pcs to be accepted.
 
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luckylinux said:
@ALinden: What about the Configuration Settings that I asked for ? Did you have a chance to dump these now that you did the BIOS Mod ?

I had shared with you the dmidecode Output a while ago already
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After bios mod I did a quick compare of SCELNX output, and to me it seems that the settings were the same between original and modded bios. But only with modded bios ECC would be activated upon boot.

Yes I saw your dmidecode data with UUID similar to what I had.
Regarding to UUID I found this nice writeup how to set a generated UUID. The same utility allows to change also other SMBIOS data.
gist.github.com

Change SMBIOS UUID on AMI firmware PCs

Change SMBIOS UUID on AMI firmware PCs. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.
gist.github.com gist.github.com
 
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Cruzader said:
Yes.
Got some good deals on pallets of servers that i could not refuse.

Also for coolers that was discussed a bit earlier, pio still have 600+ left of these after the mc12-le0 boards as most boards sold without coolers.
Would expect some fairly low offers for 12pcs to be accepted.
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You have experience with these? Will they cool down 2600X better then those discussed?
 
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chlastakov said:
You have experience with these? Will they cool down 2600X better then those discussed?
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If they are better than those mentioned i dont know, ive used them for multiple 5700x builds for over a year and not had any temp issues tho.
The first round of MC12-LE0 boards i bought had these included.
 
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luckylinux said:
I don't know where you get the impression I'm having fun.

If somebody would bother to fix this stupid character limitation in this forum MAYBE I wouldn't have to split them into separate posts.
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Im not hitting any limits beyond maybe uploads, but im increasingly getting a fairly long loading time when posting replies.
Like 15-30sec of that blue bar going on top of page before it actualy posts, it does seem a bit unhappy at times.
 
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luckylinux said:
Still undecided to be honest. I was thinking of migrating off the Supermicro X10SLL-F/X10SLM-F Series since this is approx. 4 Times more CPU Power with the 5700X (and twice the RAM), but nothing set in Stone, especially since nobody wants to buy my 2nd Hand Gear here in Denmark :(. But the Supermicro X10SLL-F/X10SLM-F and even better the Supermicro X11SSL-F/X11SSM-F still has something I miss in these newer (Fujitsu TX1320, ASRock Rack B450D4U-V1LQ5) Systems: some PCIe Slot (x8 or x16 Mechanical or open-Ended x4) connected to the PCH/DMI/Chipset. Yeah, it's slow, but for ASPM to work on the Mellanox ConnectX-4 LX, that seems like the only Option (and should still be enough for 10gbps).

But in Terms of Software, pretty sure I'll go with Proxmox VE for the Host as usual. Then some VMs for OPNSense (originally I thought I'd use the Xeon E3 v6 for that, but maybe not, let's see), a/several VMs for Docker/Podman Containers (heck might even try to run Kubernetes in the long term), some heavy intensive Builders / Distcc Helpers I guess. I don't think I'll go the HA route with CEPH, I'll probably just stick with ZFS as usual too.

Given it's an AMD Ryzen System, maybe one I could use to mine some XMR, unsure. I never went into Crypto but maybe a bit could be useful.

I also asked @Cruzader like 5 Times what he's doing with his Stuff and he never answered :). Wonder if he's working towards cracking some Encryption or whatnot (although GPUs would be way better for that) :p.

EDIT 1: @chlastakov: and what are you going to do with your 12 :p ?
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Mainly to play, test things on desk. I bought this for playing. Probably learn Kubernetes clustering, build separate NAS. Since they were super cheap, learn how to hack BIOS :D Already ordered programmer.
 
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Cruzader said:
Yes.
Got some good deals on pallets of servers that i could not refuse.

Also for coolers that was discussed a bit earlier, pio still have 600+ left of these after the mc12-le0 boards as most boards sold without coolers.
Would expect some fairly low offers for 12pcs to be accepted.
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They accepted EUR 8 / piece for 12 pieces plus 20 shipping.
 
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luckylinux said:
I'd still like to understand exactly how you did it (how you modified & rebuilt the BIOS exactly)
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you have to find the bytes of "EqIdVal QuestionId: 0x9, Value: 0xC" in the CbsSetupDxeXX.sct file,
modify and exchange the original with your modified version with UEFITool_0.28.0 ( NE can't modify BIOS)
UEFITool calculates new checksum of the ffs entry.
the signed status of the whole BIOS is now invalid, not accepted by AFU tools,
same is if you simply just change the BIOS logo.
Code: 
0x1C53C         Suppress If: {0A 82}
0x1C53E             Variable 0x9 equals 0xFF {12 86 09 00 FF 00}
0x1C544                 Not {17 02}
0x1C546             End {29 02}
0x1C548             Ref: UMC Common Options, Variable: 0xFFFF {0F 0F 07 00 07 00 03 00 00 00 FF FF 00 03 70}
0x1C557         End If {29 02}
 
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