ASRock DeskMeet X600 (65W/12Cores/96GiB ECC/PicoPSU/SFP+/case-mod)

[and]

Hi,
maybe someone interest in compact X600 case/motherboard usage.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 PRO 7945, 12C/24T, 3.70-5.40GHz, tray, 65W, ECC
Motherboard: ASRock DeskMeet X600-ITX rev 1.05
Chassis: ASRock DeskMeet X600
Drives: Samsung SSD 990 PRO 4TB, M.2 2280/M-Key/PCIe 4.0 x4
RAM: 2x Kingston Server Premier DIMM 48GB, DDR5-5600, CL46-45-45, ECC, on-die ECC (48GB 2Rx8 6G x 72-Bit)
Add-in Cards: Intel X710-BM2 Based Ethernet Network Interface Card, 10G Dual-Port SFP+
Add-in Cards: Delock Slot Bracket (2 x eSATApd 5 V / 12 V)
Power Supply: PicoPSU-150-XT 150W 12V DC-DC ATX Power Supply
Cooler: CPU Noctua NH-C14S, M.2 HR-09 2280 PRO
Dust: DEMCiflex Dust Filter (DF0008, C1105, DF0567)
OS: linux

- ECC once, always ECC
- idle consumption ~24,x W (without add-in cards)
- case modification of top area for cpu fan blow out
- bootable at DDR5-5200 (one DIMM can run at DDR5-5600)
- add-in Dual-Port eSATApd slot bracket (using SATA ports external)
- add-in Dual-Port SFP+ card (2024: still no mini-ITX motherboard with onboard SPF+ port)
- PicoPSU-150-XT support max 12V 10A peak load, reduce AMD EDC to 125000 mA (AMD 7000 series 65W CPU default: 150000 mA EDC)

Something missing?

 

[seby]

Thank you for posting this, as I also just purchased the DeskMeet x600 and contemplating what CPU to get. Your post adds some interesting data points regarding power consumption of different configurations.

German tech site heise.de posted a review using a Ryzen 5 8600G, 32 GByte DDR5-5200 and a 500-GByte-SSD. They reported an idle power consumption of just 11 W.

Tech outlet "comouterbase" posted a similar configuration using the 8600G. They also tested a setup of using DDR5-6400 and a dedicated GPU (Radeon RX 6500 XT). This put the idle power consumption to 22 W.

WWhat is your primary use case? Could you post a photo of your customized case? Temps good?

Thank you.
Seby

 

[and]

Yes, AMD Ryzen 7000 series have higher idle consumption ~20W.

I choose AMD Ryzen PRO 7000 series for 12 cores, verified ECC and TSME support.
When AMD Ryzen PRO 8000 series with 12+ cores arrived I will jump to it.

Long running CPU stress result in ~70°C Tctl.

Case mod image added.

 

[seby]

Thank you for the photos. Great temps for this case and CPU combo. How did you do the case mod? Did you just cut out that octagon? Does the Noctua fan blow upwards (out) or down towards the heat sink?

 

[and]

Thank you for the photos. Great temps for this case and CPU combo. How did you do the case mod? Did you just cut out that octagon? Does the Noctua fan blow upwards (out) or down towards the heat sink?

freehand with disc grinder
blow upwards/out

Also I add PicoPSU-150-XT experience to topic post

 

[KingKaido]

Does the deskmeet x600 support bifurcation on the x16 slot?

 

[Wasmachineman_NL]

thank you OP I now want a DeskMeet X600 to replace my DeskMini X300, ugh lol

 

[solocat]

Hi, thanks for great topic..
Is it possible if we change the Power supply with ATX or SFF model with higher wattage ?

 

[bmihai]

Hi, thanks for great topic..
Is it possible if we change the Power supply with ATX or SFF model with higher wattage ?

Yes, you can swap for another powersuply both ATX and SFX are supported. The provided one is an ATX 80Bronze if I remeber corectly. I guess you should only swap it if you need more watts, otherwise I would say the provided one is quite nice.

 

[pippi]

Hi,
maybe someone interest in compact X600 case/motherboard usage.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 PRO 7945, 12C/24T, 3.70-5.40GHz, tray, 65W, ECC
Motherboard: ASRock DeskMeet X600-ITX rev 1.05
Chassis: ASRock DeskMeet X600
Drives: Samsung SSD 990 PRO 4TB, M.2 2280/M-Key/PCIe 4.0 x4
RAM: 2x Kingston Server Premier DIMM 48GB, DDR5-5600, CL46-45-45, ECC, on-die ECC (48GB 2Rx8 6G x 72-Bit)
Add-in Cards: Intel X710-BM2 Based Ethernet Network Interface Card, 10G Dual-Port SFP+
Add-in Cards: Delock Slot Bracket (2 x eSATApd 5 V / 12 V)
Power Supply: PicoPSU-150-XT 150W 12V DC-DC ATX Power Supply
Cooler: CPU Noctua NH-C14S, M.2 HR-09 2280 PRO
Dust: DEMCiflex Dust Filter (DF0008, C1105, DF0567)
OS: linux

- ECC once, always ECC
- idle consumption ~24,x W (without add-in cards)
- case modification of top area for cpu fan blow out
- bootable at DDR5-5200 (one DIMM can run at DDR5-5600)
- add-in Dual-Port eSATApd slot bracket (using SATA ports external)
- add-in Dual-Port SFP+ card (2024: still no mini-ITX motherboard with onboard SPF+ port)
- PicoPSU-150-XT support max 12V 10A peak load, reduce AMD EDC to 125000 mA (AMD 7000 series 65W CPU default: 150000 mA EDC)

Something missing?

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Hello, I just build the following:
- Deskmeet X600 (BIOS version 5.02)
- AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 8600GE
- 1x Kingston Server Premier ECC 32GB (KSM52E42BD8KM-32HA)

When I plug it to the monitor via HDMI and press the power on button, the monitor it says “no signal”. Did you had to perform something (e.g., BIOS update) before having your build working properly?

 

[mack]

Does the deskmeet x600 support bifurcation on the x16 slot?

 

[and]

Does the deskmeet x600 support bifurcation on the x16 slot?

BIOS option exists but untested.
BIOS > Advanced > AMD PBS > AMD Common Platform Module > PCIe/GFX Lanes Configuration:

• Auto
• x8x8
• x8x4x4
• x4x4x4x4

 

[gyik]

what is the boot time with ddr5? does it train the memory every single boot?

 

[Mithril]

Thank you for posting this, as I also just purchased the DeskMeet x600 and contemplating what CPU to get. Your post adds some interesting data points regarding power consumption of different configurations.

German tech site heise.de posted a review using a Ryzen 5 8600G, 32 GByte DDR5-5200 and a 500-GByte-SSD. They reported an idle power consumption of just 11 W.

Tech outlet "comouterbase" posted a similar configuration using the 8600G. They also tested a setup of using DDR5-6400 and a dedicated GPU (Radeon RX 6500 XT). This put the idle power consumption to 22 W.

WWhat is your primary use case? Could you post a photo of your customized case? Temps good?

Thank you.
Seby

IIRC, The normal "G" series don't usually support ECC *at all*. The normal desktop chips support it but it's unverified (as in, should work, but up to OEM of MB to properly enable it in bios, etc) the "PRO" are verified support

 

[FrankTL]

why would the picoPSU be limited in 12V output?

Naively I'd expect it to only be rated for 5V, 3.3V and -5V output, and pass 12V straight through from the external AC-DC block. Is there a relay to only pass through 12V when the machine is on, and is that limited to 120W ?

Btw anecdotally, I own a system based on the X600TM-ITX and with a (non-pro) 8600G, 64GB DDR5 RAM, SSD and Intel AX210 and it idles at ~10W measured at the wall.

 

[Mithril]

why would the picoPSU be limited in 12V output?

Naively I'd expect it to only be rated for 5V, 3.3V and -5V output, and pass 12V straight through from the external AC-DC block. Is there a relay to only pass through 12V when the machine is on, and is that limited to 120W ?

Btw anecdotally, I own a system based on the X600TM-ITX and with a (non-pro) 8600G, 64GB DDR5 RAM, SSD and Intel AX210 and it idles at ~10W measured at the wall.

Size of wires/traces and what the various pins/connectors are rated for.

Modern MB most of the 12V is via the CPU connectors, so I guess you could DIY those to your 12V source and be "fine".

Some of these small DC-DC PSUs also do DC-DC on the 12V to regulate it more tightly and or allow a wider input range.

 

[and]

what is the boot time with ddr5? does it train the memory every single boot?

First boot time incl. memory test/training needs ~180 secs (96GB DDR5-5600).
Afterwards normal boot time (even when modify non-memory related BIOS options).

 

[n00b]

Any one got 256GB of ram working ? I want to use this as a VDI server.

 

[mbosma]

Pretty cool build! Now I'm looking into getting this system for myself.
Any idea if it has favorable IOMMU groups? Planning on doing GPU passthrough to a vm.

 

[EdwardTwiss]

@and I really like what you're doing here with the "frugalist" approach. I'd be interested to hear what your plans might be for this box or similar moving forward? I saw you posted on Patrick's thread about the EPYC4000D4U 400 ITX motherboard. Planning to swap out perhaps? This might be a bit too big for the x600 case but looks close to what you're after: https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=AM5D4ID2#Specifications
Personally I'm taking a good look at the Deskmeet X600 as a frugalist entry point to fast 100gb based storage as I just got a MikroTik CRS504-4XQ-IN 100gb switch. The PCIE4.0 x16 slot looks like it could support up to a dual port connectx 100gb or a single 200gb nic down the road.
The lack of IPMI and no current option to use EPYC 4000 series CPUs seems like a little bit of a drawback though