I don't mind the E-ATX options but everything above ROME is just so expensive right now ;(
AMD Epyc Bergamo / Genoa (9734/9534) for ~40% of MSRP (and "free" mboard) @ NewEgg (2023/07/16)
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Just saying if there is such a thing as "cheap" Genoa MB option that would have 12 dimm slots AND full complements of PCIe slots which would likely be E-ATX. But i am sure there is no such "cheap" options...
I don't even care about cheap at this point. Just something with all the PCIe slots and DIMM slots combined.
I think this is just an issue with the height of the ATX spec. You can't really go beyond 5 PCIe Slots + 12 dimms because of the height restrictions of a typical "workstation style" ATX board. See the supermicro h13ssl for example (though I wish they had just gone with 5 x16 slots instead of those random x8s):
Supermicro has a funny definition for ATX...lol.. 12X10 is NOT standard ATX. Then again, this is about the closest you will get to ATX and still have full 12 dimms and 5 pcieI think this is just an issue with the height of the ATX spec. You can't really go beyond 5 PCIe Slots + 12 dimms because of the height restrictions of a typical "workstation style" ATX board. See the supermicro h13ssl for example (though I wish they had just gone with 5 x16 slots instead of those random x8s):
ah yeah, evidence more to point then that the height limitations of ATX is kind of limiting with this platform, at least for workstation-style boards.
Yea I fully understand what the limitations are. It's just frustrating to not be able to use the full PCIe potential of your CPU/motherboard. It is this fact that has held me back from going with an EPYC 9000 series platform to this point. I think in the end, I'll probably wind up just going with an 8 DIMM board with more PCIe slots when the price is right. Something like one of these most likely.I think this is just an issue with the height of the ATX spec. You can't really go beyond 5 PCIe Slots + 12 dimms because of the height restrictions of a typical "workstation style" ATX board. See the supermicro h13ssl for example (though I wish they had just gone with 5 x16 slots instead of those random x8s):
If you aren't using 96 cores then 8 channel will do you fine anyway. In fact 96 is probably fine with 8 channel. Genoa isn't as bandwidth starved as Milan was. Even at a mild 4800
Don't get me wrong, Milan isn't starved at all but Zen 3 is rather on the edge of being starved
If you're okay with an open box item, the 112 core Bergamo combo is listed for $3500: Open Box: TYAN Combo Deal, S8050GM4NE-2T ATX Server Motherboard Installed AMD EPYC 9734, 112 Cores, 224 Threads, 2.2GHz, 320W-400W. Factory Installed/Tested/Burn-in/Shipped - Newegg.com
Screaming deal.
Screaming deal.
We bought some single CPU ones with 24 dimm slots quite nice but also a pain! Nothing in-between really worked as it should following all the guides and even trying our own way. It was basically 12 dimms or 24 dimms nothing else worked.
Rome is definitely the best overall value right now but Milan can be had for decent prices. I'm sticking with my Milan setup for the foreseeable future.
Especially the OEM Milan CPUs are sometimes pretty cheap. Sadly I can't use them on my current project. I am Bios limited to Rome with max TDP of 225W.
And the next one will be Genoa 96core so..., no Milan for me it seems.