9100F

[T_Minus]

I snagged one of these last year for $72 for my home NAS and wanted to build a tiny backup NAS and ditch my E3 setup for that....
I see price is now $198, is this due to shortage or why is this low-end chip over 2x the price I paid retail for it last year???
What would be the AMD equivalent here? Low power, ITX, and ECC UDIMM support are my requirement so I can use my existing case.
If anyone's updating\replacing I'd be up for a trade\etc.

 

[i386]

It looks like shortage, prices started to went up in september (kinda matches the second time when europe had large lockdowns and people were sitting home oO)

 

[Wasmachineman_NL]

"What would be the AMD equivalent here?"

Ryzen 3 3300X or the 4350G.

 

[Oarman]

The 9100F is priced high because it's not the current model and new stock is exhausted. The 10100F is the current equivalent model and seems to be available for about$97$ MSRP, or you can get a regular 10100. At a glance, there are plenty of available 10th gen chips that are better bargains than a $200 9100F; if you already have a board, Intel's recent practice of restricting chipset compatibility to one or two CPU generations can sting.

 

[Marsh]

G4900 , G5400 is the lower performance of i3-9100. It has ECC support.

I run my home build NAS with G4900 ( 2 cores ) , G5400 ( 2c/4t ), more power than I need.

Few months back, G4900, G5400 was dirt cheap, like $30 each. No one wants it.
I3-7100 was priced at $50, I won't look it if it over $50. I3-9100f was like $70-$75
Good luck find it now at these prices.

I like to buy used/like new motherboard from Amazon warehouse due to good return policy.
But bad luck strike me, I got a motherboard from Amazon, it won't post and destroy 2 x G5400 CPU.

 

[T_Minus]

The 9100F is priced high because it's not the current model and new stock is exhausted. The 10100F is the current equivalent model and seems to be available for about$97$ MSRP, or you can get a regular 10100. At a glance, there are plenty of available 10th gen chips that are better bargains than a $200 9100F; if you already have a board, Intel's recent practice of restricting chipset compatibility to one or two CPU generations can sting.

Neither support ECC like the 9100F I did see some 9100F on ebay for not too bad, but MORE still used, crazy.
If I could easily (and cheap) pickup ITX board I'd be happy with any Xeon E3 v3 generation too, but ITX still not too affordable for those so may as well go newer save power, etc... which I guess is why I've stay away from AMD for low power they just don't seem to idle as low.

G4900 , G5400 is the lower performance of i3-9100. It has ECC support.

I run my home build NAS with G4900 ( 2 cores ) , G5400 ( 2c/4t ), more power than I need.

Few months back, G4900, G5400 was dirt cheap, like $30 each. No one wants it.
I3-7100 was priced at $50, I won't look it if it over $50. I3-9100f was like $70-$75
Good luck find it now at these prices.

I like to buy used/like new motherboard from Amazon warehouse due to good return policy.
But bad luck strike me, I got a motherboard from Amazon, it won't post and destroy 2 x G5400 CPU.

Thanks! I'll check for those.
Yes motherboards (ITX) are still VERY expensive, getting those for deals are much harder.
Are you still going to try used from amazon after that issue or not worth the risk? Maybe good to test with much much cheaper CPU too now?

 

[Marsh]

I still get 1 to 3 cheap motherboard per month from amazon.

example: cheap supermicro itx board
Supermicro Motherboard MBD-X11SCV-Q-O Core i7/i5/i3 Q370 LGA1151 32GB DDR4 PCI Express Mini-ITX Retail

Item(s) Subtotal: $52.62
Shipping & Handling: $0.00
Total before tax: $52.62
Estimated tax to be collected: $4.34
Grand Total: $56.96

You are right, motherboard especially itx price is outrageous.

I am starting paying $75 for B460 itx board now to run i5-10xx and i3-10xx cpu.

I stop building supermicro chassis for home now , I have many tiny 4-8 drives NAS systems everywhere in the home .
Easy to relocate and carry.

One more amazon example
ASRock Rack Motherboard C236 WSI for $104.00
It has 8 SATA ports in ITX format.

 

[tinfoil3d]

One more amazon example
ASRock Rack Motherboard C236 WSI for $104.00
It has 8 SATA ports in ITX format.

Last time I checked it was 190 or so. Now it's $212 for me.

 

[Marsh]

I have no idea how amazon price the used / like new stuff.

The price could be 20%-40% difference within few hours of same day.
The same motherboard, could be as low as $42, then price changed to $75 within hours.

I check the amazon warehouse deal few times a day ( truthfully, I checked many times a day )

Yesterday, amazon had a Asrock rack C612 ( E5 v3,v4) ITX borad for $136.

 

[itronin]

I still get 1 to 3 cheap motherboard per month from amazon.

ohhh but clicking the link shows basically retail price...

like to buy used/like new motherboard from Amazon warehouse due to good return policy.

aha! I see what you did there.

I need to start looking there!

Just saying @Marsh should you see a deal on a

motherboard

asrock rack

E3C246D2I

and decide NOT to buy it - please let me know !! I've been on the prowl for this motherboard since I got two cheap UNAS 800's...

 

[Marsh]

I type my post just before you posted.
I saw a Asrock ITX board yesterday.

there is a asrock x470D4u board for $170 now.
I watched the same board going between $140 to $190 in the warehouse deal.

 

[itronin]

there is a asrock x470D4u board for $170 now.
I watched the same board going between $140 to $190 in the warehouse deal.

Yeah. nice board and thank you for the pointer!

want server board. NEED bifurcation (x8x4x4) . Need mitx. AFAIK the asrock rack I posted is the only current gen with that.
Its all @maes fault and c_payne's for making such a beautiful bifurcation riser, and the fact that I'm addicted to building servers... OH wait, I guess its really all my own fault! LOL.

there's this guy in a warehouse deal for 112.00
X11SCL-IF | Motherboards | Products | Super Micro Computer, Inc. and does support the 9100

Sadly that SM board apparently has no bifurcation support or it would be mine - now. like right now. like not 10 minutes from now.

 

[Marsh]

@itronin

Supermicro MBD-X11SCL-IF-O itx for $110, yesterday was $105 ,
Too pricey for me, I like it may be $70, then, I could live the board's limitation.

 

[maes]

want server board. NEED bifurcation (x8x4x4) . Need mitx. AFAIK the asrock rack I posted is the only current gen with that.
Its all @maes fault and c_payne's for making such a beautiful bifurcation riser, and the fact that I'm addicted to building servers... OH wait, I guess its really all my own fault! LOL.

As an option there is the AsrockRack X570D4I-2T. Mini-ITX, apparently supports bifurcation, has 1x pcie x16 slot, 1x m.2 slot and 2 OcuLink connectors that can each do either sata x4 or pcie 4.0 x4. Also, 2x Intel 10GbE built-in.

But yeah, I absolutely love that pcie to dual m.2 + pcie x8 riser.

 

[itronin]

As an option there is the AsrockRack X570D4I-2T. Mini-ITX, apparently supports bifurcation, has 1x pcie x16 slot, 1x m.2 slot and 2 OcuLink connectors that can each do either sata x4 or pcie 4.0 x4. Also, 2x Intel 10GbE built-in.

But yeah, I absolutely love that pcie to dual m.2 + pcie x8 riser.

interesting board thank you for the pointer and sharing your work oto. lotsa lanes and nice features on that board!

 

[maes]

interesting board thank you for the pointer and sharing your work oto. lotsa lanes and nice features on that board!

Asrock also has a few Epyc Embedded mini-itx boards, along with a few other manufacturers, but the price on those is pretty shocking.

They also have a full-size, full-fat Epyc board in 'mostly mini-itx' format that just has lanes coming out of everywhere. Something like 68 PCIE 4.0 lanes available through various means. (1x pcie x16, 6x oculink x8, 1x m.2)