8TB drives for raid - which to get?

[maze]

so im running Short on storage space soon and want to figure out what drives im getting. Have one raid with 4x 8TB archive discs atm, but not really too glad about the potential rebuild times..

Been thinking RED's but with the new backblaze report out im thinking that the ST8000DM002 could be an option aswell.. but desktop grade drives? Little scared going with something called DM in the model name.. bad experience with their 3TB failure..

Does anyone have personal experience with the ST8000VN0022? They Seem interesting aswell.

Hoping someone with thought Will chime in

 

[ebroock]

I have experience with ST DM 3TB too. I still don't feel like buying ST again.
My error was to buy all from same model, I'll never do that again.
Now I have a mix of 4TB Toshiba and WD reds.

 

[IamSpartacus]

What type of RAID are you using/plan on using going forward?

 

[Aestr]

I'm 3 weeks into a batch of 10 8TB Reds in RAIDZ2 I got out of WD My Duo enclosures. ~$250 per drive was the cheapest I could find for 8TB drives

 

[maze]

What type of RAID are you using/plan on using going forward?

Raid6 has been my idea so far - any thoughts?

I have experience with ST DM 3TB too. I still don't feel like buying ST again.
My error was to buy all from same model, I'll never do that again.
Now I have a mix of 4TB Toshiba and WD reds.

Currently have 8x 3TB seagate ST3000VX000's in a raid6, been running around 18k hours so far with no breakdowns

 

[Aluminum]

Another vote for 8TB Reds from the WD Duo, you will get nice HGST He drives @~$250 each. I recently built an 8x8 ZFS "raid10" with them.

 

[Tom5051]

Red Pros (7,200rpm) are better than the Reds (5,400rpm) and can handle the vibrations of a multi-disk array.
Reds are only good for a maximum of 4 disks in one chassis.

 

[yu130960]

Being from Canada, I saw a deal from dell on the 16tb My Duo enclosures ($609cdn) but I paused given that the reds are not fairing well on the backblaze studies. It seems like Seagates are doing better these days.

 

[Evan]

I'm 3 weeks into a batch of 10 8TB Reds in RAIDZ2 I got out of WD My Duo enclosures. ~$250 per drive was the cheapest I could find for 8TB drives

It's super easy to get them out and easy to warranty. You can get cheaper in the single disk modes but breaking them open and warranty is an issue.

He8's have better stats than red's, it would seem that's also more than a spec sheet and theoretical difference as well but the drive price also increased.

 

[Tom5051]

Seagate have never been reliable and nothing has changed.

 

[yu130960]

Seagate have never been reliable and nothing has changed.

Here is a timely blog article. Right or wrong, I base my decisions on BB blog results

2016 Hard Drive Reliabilty Benchmark Stats

 

[Jeff Robertson]

It looks like the more recent Seagate drives have been even more reliable than their WD counterparts (read the link yu130960 posted above). Anecdotally I have 6 Seagate 8tb drives in a qnap and they have performed flawlessly. I have been able to find them on sale for $250 each but it's hit or miss. Good luck!

 

[Tom5051]

It looks like the more recent Seagate drives have been even more reliable than their WD counterparts (read the link yu130960 posted above). Anecdotally I have 6 Seagate 8tb drives in a qnap and they have performed flawlessly. I have been able to find them on sale for $250 each but it's hit or miss. Good luck!

Personally I don't care what that chart says as it does not reflect my field experience and as I've previously pointed out, the results are skewed due to the vastly different amounts of drives in the test pools.
WD piss n sh!t on the Seagate in terms of reliability and I would stake my life on that.

 

[yu130960]

FWIW WDC is the worst manufacturer in the chart for 2016 and in another thread Tom5051's bashed Hitachi as well.

 

[Deslok]

I'll throw in one for shucking the WD mybook 8tb Amazon.com: WD 8TB My Book Desktop External Hard Drive - USB 3.0 - WDBBGB0080HBK-NESN: Computers & Accessories Patrick took one apart(pre facelift) and was impressed here WD My Book 8TB - 5400rpm WD80EZZX with Benchmarks and with them being as cheap as they are(a minimum 100 less than a "nas drive") you can buy an extra or two as spares and still come out ahead

 

[pgh5278]

Personally I don't care what that chart says as it does not reflect my field experience and as I've previously pointed out, the results are skewed due to the vastly different amounts of drives in the test pools.
WD piss n sh!t on the Seagate in terms of reliability and I would stake my life on that.

Might be time to get that huge monkey off your shoulder, or remove head from sand. Times change so does product reliability..

 

[croakz]

Maybe he has inside knowledge from a large storage vendor that one drive manufacturer has had a lot of firmware issues..

+1 for WD Reds taken from 16TB MyBook Duos. The individual drives have warranties, I'm debating selling the enclosures to sweeten the deal. Amazon often has them on Warehouse for $450.

 

[maze]

Right now im really leaning towards the Ironwolf drives from Seagate, or the RED's from WD..

The discs will be used for write and forget storage - until the raid needs to be expanded

 

[IamSpartacus]

Right now im really leaning towards the Ironwolf drives from Seagate, or the RED's from WD..

The discs will be used for write and forget storage - until the raid needs to be expanded

With that being the case, I'd look hard at SnapRAID/UnRAID instead of a traditional striped RAID setup.

 

[croakz]

I also have a pair of Seagate 8TB Archive drives, I don't like them. Don't consider them for RAID, but as single disks I only get 20MB/s writes to them. Painful even for just write and forget.