48+ ports 10gb switch with some 40gbps ports recommendation

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  1. hatchi

    hatchi Member

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    Hi All,
    I am looking to get 2 high density 10GB switches to replace my brocade VDX 6720

    the vdx 6720 is fine but the 2 I have have 2 limitations that make them not that usefull
    1- I have only 16 ports licensed
    2- to connect both switches I dont have qsfp port so I am using 4 out of the 16 switches to connect them which leaves only 12 usable switches per device.

    I checked the options that are available on ebay and found some options but I am not familiar with anything not brocade so not sure about their licensing and other issues

    I will use those switches for storage network so for me L2 is enough although if the switch has L3 it is considered a plus

    I prefer reverse airflow but it is not a big deal

    Most important factor for me is that I have some brocade DAC cables (in reallity i think they are active but brocade call them DAC) and I wish to reuse them as buying new cables will be mostly more expensive that the switches


    here are the options
    1- cisco N3K-3064PQ-10GE
    didnt say anything about licensing do you know if all poerts enabled by default ?

    2- Brocade BR-VDX6740 (1250 each which is almost 2X or 3X the price of the other options here but I am sure all my cables can work)
    (licensed to use all ports including QSFP) (1250 USD$)

    3- Cisco N6K-C6001-64P
    Aslo didnt talk about licensing

    4- ARISTA DCS 7050S-64-R
    No talk about how many ports are enabled ( are all ports enabled by default ?)


    I am leaning toward ARISTA DCS 7050S-64-R but i have never used anything from ARISTA and not sure about cable compatibility

    Thanks
     
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  2. BoredSysadmin

    BoredSysadmin Active Member

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    Why not Brocade ICX6650-48? It is not limiting on SFP+ transceivers or DAC cables brands. Plus it's very cheap and if you see a large thread about these, you could find a full guide on updating one and if you PM the OP even getting the all port & features enabled ;)
     
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  3. hatchi

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    Couldnt find them cheap in ebay at all
    there is currently only 2 offers for them for less than 1k

    but thinking about it now i think i should get those 2 although they are way overpriced compared tot he price in the thread
     
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  4. BoredSysadmin

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    not 48 plus another 8 with qsfp to 4x sfp+ adapters in the back (total of 56 10gig ports) plus 2x 40gig ports
    Brocade 6650 48 Port Switch ICX 6650-32-ADV | eBay

    I know that this one is already sold, but if you could wait, these deals should return. currently, everything is way overpriced.
     
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  5. fohdeesha

    fohdeesha Kaini Industries

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    I can supply licenses for the 6650, which makes 56x 10gb ports, and 4x 40gb ports. stay away from the VDX line
     
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  6. fohdeesha

    fohdeesha Kaini Industries

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    granted at the prices 6650's seem to be going for now, arista is also a good choice (wtf happened to icx6650 prices?). Arista's can be unlocked to work with any optic/cable with an unlock code
     
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    Let's blame it on you and STH effect
     
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    What about using a 40g switch with breakouts?
     
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  9. xephael

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    DCS-7050T-64-R ... save the money on all the SFPs; all ports enabled. Watch for them on ebay. Downside is it's noisy and draws 120-150 watts idle.
     
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  10. Evan

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    Cisco nexus 9372px or similar could work ok from eBay , probably get them for a grand or so.
    48 x 10G sfp+ and 6 x 40G

    Don’t know about the Cisco 3k but the 9k’s are all poets enabled.
     
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  11. hatchi

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    I thought about it but going this path it means I have to replace all the DAC cables I have so keeping this option as last option

    same issue with replacing cables but here replacement cables are cheap but I will have to replace all the nics in the servers or getting
    SFP+10GBASE-T modules which I couldnt find for cheap
     
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  12. BoredSysadmin

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    Yeah, no bro. Nexus would only take Cisco's own or compatible DACs and SFPs
    Otherwise, it's pretty much the industry standard.
     
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    True true, I know what a Cisco DAC costs though on discount and didn’t see that as the biggest issue, I assumed that they therefore should be readily available.
    Given the weight probably costs half the value of 48 DAC’s to ship them :-O

    (Not a joke but the Cisco 10G DAC is same price as a CAT7 RJ45 cable if you get the right discount)

    Power consumption on the Cisco switch is terrible though !

    Edit: just looked up used prices of the cisco, maybe only 3-5% residual value at 4/5 years of age !
     
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    The 6650's have at least recent firmware and not behind a paywall, can't say that about the Arista line. I'd try the arista but worried about getting firmware and when the last release was.

    Anyone do something like @fohdeesha does but for the Arista line?
     
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  15. fohdeesha

    fohdeesha Kaini Industries

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    yeah, his name is fohdeesha. shoot him a pm
     
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    Is there anything cool to do on an Arista switch other than updating the FW and getting the optics unlock code?

    (It's a google search away...)
     
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  18. hatchi

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    Based on the price range of 6650 I think i will go with 7750
    seems to me newer than 6650 (it has 8 10gbps ports less but I can live with that)

    Aslo seems the switching speed is a bit higher that the 6650 which is important as i will use it as SAN switch

    Do you have any suggestions ?
     
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