i'd have to disagree with your disagreement. sure, there may be failures, so buy a few extra. that said, if i bought 50 of these, i don't expect more than 5 of them to fail before 3TB drives become obsolete.I could not disagree more with the praise for these drives or this deal. I've resisted this deal for like 3 months, even though i need drives badly. Obviously the price per GB is unbeatable, and HGST drives are between good and great. But make no mistake. You are buying drives that are well used, and likely to be near the end of their lives. So expect and plan for drive failures. If you need 12 of these, then buy 15 of them. Newegg, Monoprice, Ebay have been full of these drives recently. All from decommissioned server farms. Read a number of stories of large arrays of these failing and before the resilver can complete it loses another drive and wipes out the whole array.
i'd have to disagree with your disagreement. sure, there may be failures, so buy a few extra. that said, if i bought 50 of these, i don't expect more than 5 of them to fail before 3TB drives become obsolete.
on the issue of data loss, you don't protect yourself against data loss by relying solely on redundancy/parity. that's why you have backups.
They dropped the price to $57.50. Don't think thats low enough for me for used drives TBT. I could justify 40|45 and get my new freenas up and running then replace a drive every month or other month till all 12 have been replaced..Did goharddrive get back with your offer?
I'm after something similar but just want 10 not 13.,
i don't know where you get your data and who "alot of people" are, but I'll tell you that I've bought (not from this seller) used HGST SAS/SATA drives off ebay and elsewhere, in quantities of a few hundred in the last 24 months. i check their SMART stats, and run them through badblocks for a week. so far, of the few hundred drives I've gotten; first, i've never had one with bad sectors, and second i haven't had one fail on me yet. they usually have somewhere between 10000 to 30000 hours on them, these 7K4 are not as old as some of the drives i've gotten, so they are probably on the lower side in terms of power on hours. do i expect them to eventually fail? sure, all things computing eventually fail. am I worried and walking on egg shells? no, but then i take other measures to protect my data. grant you, a few hundred isn't statistically significant relative to however many there are circulating the used market, but it is enough to give me confidence that these are worth the money at this price or lower. everything has an associated risk; just do your own research and make sure to hedge the risk (buy more drives, use smaller disk pools, use more parity, have more frequent and multiple backups, etc.).Factor in drive failures and then suddenly the value in these is also not as good. No RMA so these are ewaste once they're defective. I'd love to have a mountain of these drives at 50% health but I think you're likely to get most drives at 70% health. Also likely to get drives with bad sectors. That has been alot of people experiences with these drives. So maybe i'd up my purchase estimate. If you need 12 good drives then maybe i'd buy 16-18 of them.
Again I've been resisting these for 3 months, ended up buying a bunch of shuckable wd40efrx but still dont have enough.
Sure. everyone has different risk tolerance for their hard drive buying needs. I've also had bad new drives, also run badblocks on every drive before it goes into our machines. I dont think my expectations for what a drive should do is too high though. I dont expect drives to last forever, but buying these to hope, that is hope, you get 2-3 years out of them, just not worth it. Check out the Slickdeal and reddit posts of users experiences with these drives. They're all over the map. And having to buy an extra amount amount of extra drives just to hedge against the risk of failure hoping to get 2-3 years. thats not value. constant resilvering of arrays. not worth it but obviously other people will drive a different conclusion.i don't know where you get your data and who "alot of people" are, but I'll tell you that I've bought (not from this seller) used HGST SAS/SATA drives off ebay and elsewhere, in quantities of a few hundred in the last 24 months. i check their SMART stats, and run them through badblocks for a week. so far, of the few hundred drives I've gotten; first, i've never had one with bad sectors, and second i haven't had one fail on me yet. they usually have somewhere between 10000 to 30000 hours on them, these 7K4 are not as old as some of the drives i've gotten, so they are probably on the lower side in terms of power on hours. do i expect them to eventually fail? sure, all things computing eventually fail. am I worried and walking on egg shells? no, but then i take other measures to protect my data. grant you, a few hundred isn't statistically significant relative to however many there are circulating the used market, but it is enough to give me confidence that these are worth the money at this price or lower. everything has an associated risk; just do your own research and make sure to hedge the risk (buy more drives, use smaller disk pools, use more parity, have more frequent and multiple backups, etc.).
risk is a personal thing i suppose, so to each their own. maybe i'm ancient and just don't see things the way you've described this risk.
I have more than 20 of this model, all refurbs, some with more than 50k hours on them (AFTER they were refurbed). zero failures, zero pending sectors, zero bad sectors. I have gotten *way* more life out of these than brand new wd blacks I've hadI could not disagree more with the praise for these drives or this deal. I've resisted this deal for like 3 months, even though i need drives badly. Obviously the price per GB is unbeatable, and HGST drives are between good and great. But make no mistake. You are buying drives that are well used, and likely to be near the end of their lives. So expect and plan for drive failures. If you need 12 of these, then buy 15 of them. Newegg, Monoprice, Ebay have been full of these drives recently. All from decommissioned server farms. Read a number of stories of large arrays of these failing and before the resilver can complete it loses another drive and wipes out the whole array.
But, aren't there any fast SSDs on discounted price?Seems like a good deal - was seen recently and is back now:
Refurbished: HGST Ultrastar 7K4000 HUS724030ALE641 (0F17731) 3TB 64MB Cache 7200 RPM SATA III 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Internal Hard Drive - OEM – NeweggFlash.com
45.99 but $5 rebate coupon so 40.99 net
No limit
EDIT: title should read 41 not 42
FYI. Looks like webpage for your link "fast ssd" may contain affiliate links in buttons "Get (drive name) Now" beneath individual SSD reviews?But, aren't there any fast SSDs on discounted price?
What software do you use for readinf SMART info and testing?We started testing these, and a LOT of them have reallocated and pending sectors. Thanks newegg...
Going through a full DD on them and will see about sending them back once we've tested them all.
Any tips on getting bad drives replaced with Newegg?
In linux, smartctl -aWhat software do you use for readinf SMART info and testing?
My drives tested fine (even the drive that vibrates a lot) SMART values look OK to me. I used Passmark DiskCheckup for reading SMART info and HGST Windows Drive Fitness Test for testing drives.