18TB Recertified Seagate Exos $189

[i386]

what?

 

[Samir]

Yes. Seagate started selling 18TB hdds in 2020, at worst these drives are ~3 years old

Generally, the larger Seagate drives seemed to have a higher return rate as there were a lot of refurbished drives shortly after drive sizes of 16/18/20/22 were introduced. That being said however, I got 5x 16TB Exos when they were very new and have had zero issues.

A big apprehension comes from the seller, which if they are playing shell games with companies and bait and switch with product descriptions and warranties, is definitely a gamble.

 

[ServerPartDeals]

Where is it written warranty is from the seller? I wouldn't expect any seller to give 2 year warranty.

Hi all - created an account today due to all of the referrals we saw from servethehome this week. Thanks for posting Bert!

To provide some clarity about the warranty - we provide 2 year warranties on all 3.5" Recertified condition HDD's. These 18TB recert drives do not have a warranty from Seagate.

 

[josh]

Generally, the larger Seagate drives seemed to have a higher return rate as there were a lot of refurbished drives shortly after drive sizes of 16/18/20/22 were introduced. That being said however, I got 5x 16TB Exos when they were very new and have had zero issues.

A big apprehension comes from the seller, which if they are playing shell games with companies and bait and switch with product descriptions and warranties, is definitely a gamble.

I had 6 of the X16s and 3 of them failed in under a year. I ain't risking my data on stressed drives

 

[i386]

I had 6 of the X16s and 3 of them failed in under a year. I ain't risking my data on stressed drives

17x x16 sata retail hdds here; ~24k hours and ~42 start/stop per hdd
0 failures

 

[EasyRhino]

I had 6 of the X16s and 3 of them failed in under a year. I ain't risking my data on stressed drives

gross. were those new drives or refurb drives?

 

[Samir]

I had 6 of the X16s and 3 of them failed in under a year. I ain't risking my data on stressed drives

To clarify, I bought mine brand new.

 

[Samir]

17x x16 sata retail hdds here; ~24k hours and ~42 start/stop per hdd
0 failures

That's about the same as the workload on mine. FWIW, they sound the same as my HGST/WD enterprise drives and seem to be just as robust. Keep in mind that Seagate makes nearly 50% of the 2.5" sas drives in most servers, so it's not the brand.

 

[josh]

gross. were those new drives or refurb drives?

New. But they were from the expansions. Maybe those were lower binned. Definitely SN02 firmware though.

 

[odditory]

A big apprehension comes from the seller, which if they are playing shell games with companies and bait and switch with product descriptions and warranties, is definitely a gamble.

+1. And to be clear, no disparagement of SPD intended here. They seem legit, their site has been around since 2013 it appears, I'm not aware of any complaints. I"m sure they appreciate "STH effect" traffic their way. The point is understand what you're buying with these types of products.

In greymarket IT resale, the muddying and conflation of terms like "manufacturer recertified" and "warranty" on same product page on manufacturer-warrantyless products is deliberate. Greymarket IT trades on that ambiguity. However:

- A manufacturer warranty is generally a legal declaration with binding properties, a customer has some measure of leverage and recourse if it's not honored.
- A seller "warranty" is just a word. A customer has no real leverage or recourse if seller deletes customer's email, or doesn't answer phone, or their website suddenly goes 404, or they otherwise don't reply to a replacement request.

So you just have to factor that into the calculus when considering a price.

 

[Bert]

I inquire them about the warranty but I didn't get any response back.

 

[Samir]

New. But they were from the expansions. Maybe those were lower binned. Definitely SN02 firmware though.

Interesting. A lot of people shucked these so interesting to hear your experience. I got mine as retail new and they look identical. I guess you can't judge a drive by its cover, lol!

 

[SINN78]

LINCOLN5 for $5 off I just purchased 3

 

[Bert]

I got my 3, one of them is installed. Here is the smart data which I couldn't make sense out of it. Perhaps, someone can tell.


smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [x86_64-linux-4.19.0-16-amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: ST18000NM000J-2TV103
Serial Number: ZR528FMA
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 0db80a912
Firmware Version: SN02
User Capacity: 18,000,207,937,536 bytes [18.0 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: ACS-4 (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is: SATA 3.3, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Sat Dec 3 09:38:38 2022 PST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 567) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: (1637) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x70bd) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 076 066 044 Pre-fail Always - 39797859
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 099 099 000 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 1
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 253 045 Pre-fail Always - 9951
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 15
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 1
18 Unknown_Attribute 0x000b 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0
187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 073 050 000 Old_age Always - 27 (Min/Max 19/27)
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 7
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 027 040 000 Old_age Always - 27 (0 19 0 0 0)
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0023 100 100 001 Pre-fail Always - 0
240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 (59 240 0)
241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 39774576
242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 23283

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

 

[Hussie]

Maybe you can try crystaldisk