12gen N-series Nas motherboard (topton, cwwk, ... )

[HaoSs]

what where the other ram sticks?

 

[KevinR]

Today I get a new ram stick (Crucial 16Gb 5800Mhz) and will do the test again with the new ram stick.

Worth noting that N100 cpu is only rated for ddr5 @ 4800. These Chinese boards don't have access to the ram profile on the sodimm (costs £££) so they scan the memory to try to work out the settings. Threads have also shown that sometimes they struggle with certain sodimm at 4800. Although your ram should downclock to 4800, it could be the memory scan isn't working out the best settings. Or the 5800 parts are too thirsty for the motherboard or cpu. You could check the memory settings in the bios, and even manually slow it to say 4400 just to see if it works better.

 

[Lerk]

Worth noting that N100 cpu is only rated for ddr5 @ 4800. These Chinese boards don't have access to the ram profile on the sodimm (costs £££) so they scan the memory to try to work out the settings. Threads have also shown that sometimes they struggle with certain sodimm at 4800. Although your ram should downclock to 4800, it could be the memory scan isn't working out the best settings. Or the 5800 parts are too thirsty for the motherboard or cpu. You could check the memory settings in the bios, and even manually slow it to say 4400 just to see if it works better.

Sorry, 5600Mhz.

I tested 4800Mhz Crucial and Corsair and the same problem. We will see with 5600Mhz.

 

[mrvladis]

Does anyone know if on the purple board Front USB connector is USB 3 or USB 2? Specs document in translation says both USB2 and USB3.
In my JONSBO 3 case, I can see that it works only as USB 2.

 

[Kobold81]

Hi,

I have the purple n305. At least the system sees 2 busses. Front and Back.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

 

[zr0dfx]

Does anyone know if on the purple board Front USB connector is USB 3 or USB 2? Specs document in translation says both USB2 and USB3.
In my JONSBO 3 case, I can see that it works only as USB 2.

Its a 2 port connector, maybe only one is 3.0 and one is 2.0

 

[mrvladis]

Its a 2 port connector, maybe only one is 3.0 and one is 2.0

Yes, that could be the case... it is only one port on JONSBO....

 

[mrvladis]

Hi,

I have the purple n305. At least the system sees 2 busses. Front and Back.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Thank you. I saw the same, but wasn't sure.

 

[mrvladis]

Hm, my back panel USB3 (blue port) doesn't really want to work with any USB3 devices.... Does anyone have the same issue?
If I plug in USB2 thumb drive – it works. If I plug USB3 HDD – it spins, but not recognised.

 

[zr0dfx]

Hm, my back panel USB3 (blue port) doesn't really want to work with any USB3 devices.... Does anyone have the same issue?
If I plug in USB2 thumb drive – it works. If I plug USB3 HDD – it spins, but not recognised.

Do you have a USB 3 SSD? Maybe it can't deliver the power required for a HDD.

 

[mrvladis]

Do you have a USB 3 SSD? Maybe it can't deliver the power required for a HDD.

Good point. I indeed have one. Will check it tomorrow. Still strange though.

Does anyone have an idea what will happen if I'll use adapter to combine USB2 + USB3 into USBC?

use adapter

 

[KevinR]

The internal usb port on the purple -K is documented (see screenshot) : so it's described like a 14 pin usb3 and 6 pin usb2 header. However that's essentially the normal pinout for a usb3 header. It has 5 channels, one is usb2 compatible, the other 4 are superspeed. (second image - note the diagrams are rotated 180°)

 

[KevinR]

Hm, my back panel USB3 (blue port) doesn't really want to work with any USB3 devices.... Does anyone have the same issue?
If I plug in USB2 thumb drive – it works. If I plug USB3 HDD – it spins, but not recognised.

Thought. Check the bios. On some motherboards there is a setting to force usb2/3 for compatibility reasons. I don't know if this has one, or if it works, but worth checking.

 

[Zorg2K]

@Lerk Seems like my AliExpress seller only recommends Samsung and Skhynix sticks.

Dear, Barebone bundle had best to use Samsung,  Skhynix ORIGINAL brand ram and storage(most of them are fake on aliexpress).
Suggest DO NOT use Kingston brand ram and storage that has bad compatibility.
Suggest DO NOT buy Barebone PC ("No Ram No Storage" bundle) if you are NOT IT technician.
Most bad reviews comes from barebone bundle purchasing, PC demands professional skill to assemble and debug.
We are afraid to see you suffer a bad shopping experience and DO NOT compensate for buyer's incompetent handling. Thanks for your kind understanding.

 

[Kobold81]

@Lerk Seems like my AliExpress seller only recommends Samsung and Skhynix sticks.

Dear, Barebone bundle had best to use Samsung,  Skhynix ORIGINAL brand ram and storage(most of them are fake on aliexpress).
Suggest DO NOT use Kingston brand ram and storage that has bad compatibility.
Suggest DO NOT buy Barebone PC ("No Ram No Storage" bundle) if you are NOT IT technician.
Most bad reviews comes from barebone bundle purchasing, PC demands professional skill to assemble and debug.
We are afraid to see you suffer a bad shopping experience and DO NOT compensate for buyer's incompetent handling. Thanks for your kind understanding.

see, it is only your fault because you are incompetent not theirs for selling a bugged product ;-)

it is not the 90s anymore, pc building was a nightmare then with how incompatible things were.
seller has a bad attitude.
They should at least specify what ram is compatible on their product page.

luckily at least for me, Corsair ram still works like a charm on the purple.

 

[Zorg2K]

see, it is only your fault because you are incompetent not theirs for selling a bugged product ;-)

it is not the 90s anymore, pc building was a nightmare then with how incompatible things were.
seller has a bad attitude.
They should at least specify what ram is compatible on their product page.

luckily at least for me, Corsair ram still works like a charm on the purple.

Would you share the Part# ?

PS: I remember the nightmare of setting frequencies and multipliers through jumper settings on a DX2-66Mhz. And chances to fry it anytime. Lol

 

[Kobold81]

Would you share the Part# ?

PS: I remember the nightmare of setting frequencies and multipliers through jumper settings on a DX2-66Mhz. And chances to fry it anytime. Lol

those were the times
My ram: CT32G56C46S5
was recommended many posts before from other users also with older boards.

 

[mrvladis]

Thought. Check the bios. On some motherboards there is a setting to force usb2/3 for compatibility reasons. I don't know if this has one, or if it works, but worth checking.

Thank you! It was indeed set to "Legacy". I've changed to Auto, and it got it working properly.

 

[Zorg2K]

I'm getting the CW-NAS-ADLN-K (Purple n305 2X 2.5Gb). Does anyone know if I can run this with DDR4. n305 clearly supports it, but the board probably doesn't. I'm a bit on a budget now and can probably fetch DDR4 for little money. Did anyone try DDR4 on n305 board ?

Thank you !

 

[HaoSs]

No, you can't, the slot is physically different and you can't put a stick of ddr4 in a ddr5 slot. Not to mention the performance in a single-channel configuration is way way better on ddr5.