12gen N-series Nas motherboard (topton, cwwk, ... )
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Yeah, I had that issue too. Most motherboards I deal with at least show signs of life while they validate the RAM
I ended up buying the Topton N100 listed here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006417671070.html - looks pretty similar to the boards mentioned here, but slightly different configuration. The cpu cooler that it shipped with is a little too loud for my liking - does anybody know what mount it takes? This post indicates the Noctua NH-L9i might be suitable, but wondering what the specific requirement is
looks like CWWK's aliexpress page is also updated with new cw-nas-adln-k.
ordered one couple days ago but still not shipped...
ordered one couple days ago but still not shipped...
So I'm not clear on what the difference is with this board?
The picture mentions the Q670 chipset andIntel vPro but this makes no sense since the N series use an onboard PCH not a discrete chipset.
So what's going on?
btw I think the shop item title is misleading, it should be updated N100 board cw-nas-adln-k.
I did some research before buying, and apparently CWWK re-worked pci lane layout.
main changes are:
| before(9 lane) | after(9 lane) |
| 4 network ports : occupies 4 channels | 2 network ports: occupies 2 channels |
| 2 M2: occupies 2 channels | no change(2 lane) |
| SATA1 interface: occupies 1 channel | gone |
| JMB585: occupies 1 channel | ASM1166 occupies 1 channel |
| USB3.0: occupies 1 channel | USB 3.0 from lightning(NEW) |
| PCIe: shared lane with M2 slot | PCIe 4X: occupies 4 lanes |
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The cw-nas-adln-k has been out for over a month.
So I thought you were implying there was now a v2 of the cw-nas-adln-k.
I'll probably pick one of these up soon and then with the aid of an inexpensive dual or quad ASMedia m.2 splitter I can load it up with drives thanks to the x4 PCIe.
I'm thinking that I may need to go for the N305 because the increased iGPU speed (750MHz vs 1.25GHz) is actually useful for QSV if I want to do HW transcoding (Plex/Frigate).
So I thought you were implying there was now a v2 of the cw-nas-adln-k.
I'll probably pick one of these up soon and then with the aid of an inexpensive dual or quad ASMedia m.2 splitter I can load it up with drives thanks to the x4 PCIe.
I'm thinking that I may need to go for the N305 because the increased iGPU speed (750MHz vs 1.25GHz) is actually useful for QSV if I want to do HW transcoding (Plex/Frigate).
ohh my bad, I just got into whole homeserver hobby this month
btw Aliexpress summer sale just started, so CWWK were kind enough to let me cancel my unshipped order and bought it again for about $160.
Following this thread with interest as my finger is hovering over the N100/N305 variant of the CW-NAS-ADLN-K board.
Planning a redesign of my current server/NAS build and will be moving from TrueNAS Scale to ProxMox (I think). This board looks like it'll fit my needs just great - and draw a lot less power than the HP Z640 worsktation build I'm currently running!
Goals are to downsize the build into a more NAS-focused case and drop power use - I don't use that machine much beyond HTPC media, a photo server and a shopping list server. Pretty certain an N305 based build would more than cut it with some room to play around too - possibly the N100 also? Plus there's expandability on the board as I only have 4x mechanical drives at present.
Made peace with dropping the ECC memory as nothing I have that's important isn't also offsite.
Couple of technical questions to anyone that has the board:
Planning a redesign of my current server/NAS build and will be moving from TrueNAS Scale to ProxMox (I think). This board looks like it'll fit my needs just great - and draw a lot less power than the HP Z640 worsktation build I'm currently running!
Goals are to downsize the build into a more NAS-focused case and drop power use - I don't use that machine much beyond HTPC media, a photo server and a shopping list server. Pretty certain an N305 based build would more than cut it with some room to play around too - possibly the N100 also? Plus there's expandability on the board as I only have 4x mechanical drives at present.
Made peace with dropping the ECC memory as nothing I have that's important isn't also offsite.
Couple of technical questions to anyone that has the board:
- Given my use case would the N305 be worth it to get a bit more headroom for the future?
- From the lane breakdown, it looks like simultaneous use of both M.2 slots and the PCIE slot should be possible - has anyone confirmed this who has got the board?
- I saw a few issues with the ASM1166 power states - has anyone seen any improvement or fixes for this yet?
- What's the cooler mount format for the board? I could scale the image up and work it out but essentially would it work with any modern tower cooler with a range of mounts? From what I can see the hole pattern is LGA.
- If anyone has a card in the slot, how many SATA ports does it obstruct? Looks like they're positioned right behind the slot.
- Has anyone tried passively cooling one of these or a variant? From the stated TDPs it looks like it could be possible with many third part passive coolers and the right case airflow.
Have you tried the latest BIOs update from 2024-06-24 ?
If so, has it solved the problem or still no?
Also just tried to install it in my N2 case, MB screw hole is way too small for 6-32 UNC screw. included screw seems to be some sort of special screw with spring washer, pitch seems to be M3.
Also bought the version with Jonsbo cooler, and if you tighten the nuts it visibly flexes the board way too much and don't recommend it.
Also bought the version with Jonsbo cooler, and if you tighten the nuts it visibly flexes the board way too much and don't recommend it.
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Not yet, but it's on my list for this week. Will report back if the issue was fixed. Unfortunately, cwwk has not responded back to my mail regarding the issue
My N100 came with the correct I/O shield, weird stuff
Did your board come with weird screws? unless they include special brass standoff with correct pitch I can't install this board.Not yet, but it's on my list for this week. Will report back if the issue was fixed. Unfortunately, cwwk has not responded back to my mail regarding the issue
My N100 came with the correct I/O shield, weird stuff
Another update from a new Purple N100 owner, having had a bit of time to play around with it and compare to the older black DC model. FWIW mine came with all the correct screws and backplate. I have updated to the newest BIOS (the non-sata boot version).
As an upside, the fan controller somewhat works now - there are basic settings in the BIOS to set off/on/full speed limits which works. As of yet I've not worked out how to get it to read/control via unraid
On the downside, the power usage is exactly the same as the older board - I am idling at 16W-17W. I've noted the discussion about ASPM settings, updating the ASM1166 etc but this is all beyond me so far as a linux/unraid noob
I am opening to trying anything to get the power down, and of course will try any new BIOSes as they come along!
As an upside, the fan controller somewhat works now - there are basic settings in the BIOS to set off/on/full speed limits which works. As of yet I've not worked out how to get it to read/control via unraid
On the downside, the power usage is exactly the same as the older board - I am idling at 16W-17W. I've noted the discussion about ASPM settings, updating the ASM1166 etc but this is all beyond me so far as a linux/unraid noob
I am opening to trying anything to get the power down, and of course will try any new BIOSes as they come along!
Have you enabled ASPM in the BIOs and updated the ASM1166 sata controller?Another update from a new Purple N100 owner, having had a bit of time to play around with it and compare to the older black DC model. FWIW mine came with all the correct screws and backplate. I have updated to the newest BIOS (the non-sata boot version).
As an upside, the fan controller somewhat works now - there are basic settings in the BIOS to set off/on/full speed limits which works. As of yet I've not worked out how to get it to read/control via unraid
On the downside, the power usage is exactly the same as the older board - I am idling at 16W-17W. I've noted the discussion about ASPM settings, updating the ASM1166 etc but this is all beyond me so far as a linux/unraid noob
I am opening to trying anything to get the power down, and of course will try any new BIOSes as they come along!