10Gb SFP+ RJ45 100m

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Jabes

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My previous post compared my experience with the Unifi and fs.com sfp+ tranceivers offering low power, 10gb over cat6 to 100m.
Well, I've now seen Wiitek list equipment which I guess has the same chipset at its centre.


I've ordered a couple to play with. I've got some places where the low temperature would be better than the existing modules I have in use.
 

MountainBofh

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Any idea what chipset it is using?

Also, the older shorter range ones, what chipsets do they use?
 

Jabes

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It's the Broadcom 1.8W chipset.
The 30m ones tend to use Marvell chipsets.
There are 80m broadcom adapters around as well, those tend to be just over 2W.

I have fs.com and tp-link 30m adapters, and 2x fs.com 100m adapter (running over 70m of cat6)
 

blunden

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There are also 80m Xicom ones on AliExpress in case the Wiitek ones aren't available in your region. :) The shorter range Xicom ones are supposedly Marvell/Aquantia based. They are mentioned here in the Qotom Denverton thread.

It's great that these are finally becoming cheaper so that they can mostly replace the old 30m ones in the market.
 
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Jabes

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I found 100m NVOC ones on aliexpress also. These were only £2 cheaper than the amazon ones (and would have been subject to the tax uplift ali express does now)
 
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I found 100m NVOC ones on aliexpress also. These were only £2 cheaper than the amazon ones (and would have been subject to the tax uplift ali express does now)
I don't find that one while searching. Mind posting a link? :)
 

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So the Wiitek's have finally arrived. I've plugged one in connected to a 10Gb RJ45 and it synced at 10Gb immediately. No time to tell about evolution of temperature in my fanless switch (which also has an FS.com 100m SFP+ RJ45 module in it).

Switch diagnostics: Port 25 - a SFP 1Gb DAC; Port 26 - the Wiitek, Port 28 - the fs.com

Code:
                                                                                                               Nominal
                                                          Transfer Distance                                        Bit
                                               Wavelength SMF  OM1  OM2  OM3                                      Rate
Port       Transceiver Type   Vendor Name      [nm]       [km] [m]  [m]  [m]  Serial Number    Part Number      [Mbps] Rev  Compliance Connector Type
---------- ------------------ ---------------- ---------- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---------------- ---------------- ------ ---- ---------- ------------------
Te1/0/25   1000_BASE_SX_SFP   OEM              850        0    270  550  0    CSC221103300109   GLC-SX-MMD          13  e   3          LC
Te1/0/26   10G_BASE_SR_SFP    Wiitek           850        0    20   80   300  WAMZ012409X47C   SFP-10G-T-100       103 1    3          LC
Te1/0/28   10G_BASE_SR_SFP    FS               850        0    40   100  0    G2310005049      SFP-10G-T100        103      3          LC


SW Roof 24#show ddm status
          Temperature(C)      Voltage(V)          Bias Current(mA)    Tx Power(mW)        Tx Power(dBm)       Rx Power(mW)        Rx Power(dBm)       Data Ready          Rx Los              Tx Fault
Te1/0/25  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/26  42.347656           3.321000            6.000000            0.500000            -3.010300           0.400000            -3.979400           False               False               False
Te1/0/27  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/28  41.000000           3.250000            6.016000            0.380800            -4.193031           0.510800            -2.917491           False               False               False
 
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So the Wiitek's have finally arrived. I've plugged one in connected to a 10Gb RJ45 and it synced at 10Gb immediately. No time to tell about evolution of temperature in my fanless switch (which also has an FS.com 100m SFP+ RJ45 module in it).

Switch diagnostics: Port 25 - a SFP 1Gb DAC; Port 26 - the Wiitek, Port 28 - the fs.com

Code:
                                                                                                               Nominal
                                                          Transfer Distance                                        Bit
                                               Wavelength SMF  OM1  OM2  OM3                                      Rate
Port       Transceiver Type   Vendor Name      [nm]       [km] [m]  [m]  [m]  Serial Number    Part Number      [Mbps] Rev  Compliance Connector Type
---------- ------------------ ---------------- ---------- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---------------- ---------------- ------ ---- ---------- ------------------
Te1/0/25   1000_BASE_SX_SFP   OEM              850        0    270  550  0    CSC221103300109   GLC-SX-MMD          13  e   3          LC
Te1/0/26   10G_BASE_SR_SFP    Wiitek           850        0    20   80   300  WAMZ012409X47C   SFP-10G-T-100       103 1    3          LC
Te1/0/28   10G_BASE_SR_SFP    FS               850        0    40   100  0    G2310005049      SFP-10G-T100        103      3          LC


SW Roof 24#show ddm status
          Temperature(C)      Voltage(V)          Bias Current(mA)    Tx Power(mW)        Tx Power(dBm)       Rx Power(mW)        Rx Power(dBm)       Data Ready          Rx Los              Tx Fault
Te1/0/25  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/26  42.347656           3.321000            6.000000            0.500000            -3.010300           0.400000            -3.979400           False               False               False
Te1/0/27  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/28  41.000000           3.250000            6.016000            0.380800            -4.193031           0.510800            -2.917491           False               False               False
I see the transceiver pretends to be a 10GBASE-SR fiber transceiver, which seems to be relatively common. I guess it must help with compatibility or something. :)

Do you have the output from something like ethtool -m [interface]? I'm curious about what other values they've set in the EEPROM. :)
 

Jabes

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Ok, this is going to contain a few more bits of information about these modules!

First of all, I replaced a fs.com 30m module I had supporting a 2.5gb link. The amazon description did not have these modules supporting 2.5gb so I was interested to see if they actually did. I am typing this over the link, and have verified through iperf that I am getting a full 2.5gb connection. That's good.

In addition I replaced a tp-link 30m module which runs very hot with one of these, and will see how the temperature evolves. I've kept the other tplink in place so you can see.

In this switch port 1 is the newly installed Wiitek to a 10gb connection; port 9 is an fs.com 100m module - connected to the other switch above (over 70m of cat6). Port 14 is me connected over 2.5gb (but obviously shows as 10gb here).
You can see the tplink at port 5 for a temperature comparison - though the wiitek modules have only been running for a few minutes. I'll leave swapping out the other tplink until tomorrow so I can see the longer term temperature.

In my other switch which has had the wiitek overnight the temperature has only reached 46. These are substantially better for your switch operating temperature than the 30m modules!

Code:
SW Core#show fiber-ports

                                                                                                               Nominal
                                                          Transfer Distance                                        Bit
                                               Wavelength SMF  OM1  OM2  OM3                                      Rate
Port       Transceiver Type   Vendor Name      [nm]       [km] [m]  [m]  [m]  Serial Number    Part Number      [Mbps] Rev  Compliance Connector Type
---------- ------------------ ---------------- ---------- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---------------- ---------------- ------ ---- ---------- ------------------
Te1/0/1    10G_BASE_SR_SFP    Wiitek           850        0    20   80   300  WAMZ012409X25C   SFP-10G-T-100       103 1    3          LC
Te1/0/4    Copper-SFP         OEM              256        0    0    0    0    S180500340398    SFP-H10GB-CU2M      103      0          Copper pigtail
Te1/0/5    Copper-SFP         TP-Link          0          0    0    0    0    222C9K1000663    TL-SM5310-T(UN)     103 1.0  0          LC
Te1/0/9    10G_BASE_SR_SFP    FS               850        0    40   100  0    G2310005048      SFP-10G-T100        103      3          LC
Te1/0/13   Copper-SFP         OEM              256        0    0    0    0    S180601540116    SFP-H10GB-CU2M      103      0          Copper pigtail
Te1/0/14   10G_BASE_SR_SFP    Wiitek           850        0    20   80   300  WAMZ012409X10C   SFP-10G-T-100       103 1    3          LC
Te1/0/16   Copper-SFP         OEM              256        0    0    0    0    CSC210601480435  SFP-H10GB-CU1M      103 R    0          Copper pigtail


SW Core#show ddm status
          Temperature(C)      Voltage(V)          Bias Current(mA)    Tx Power(mW)        Tx Power(dBm)       Rx Power(mW)        Rx Power(dBm)       Data Ready          Rx Los              Tx Fault
Te1/0/1   39.136719           3.318800            6.000000            0.500000            -3.010300           0.400000            -3.979400           False               False               False
Te1/0/2   --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/3   --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/4   --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/5   71.433594           3.254600            0.000000            0.000000            -inf                0.000000            -inf                False               False               False
Te1/0/6   --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/7   --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/8   --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/9   44.000000           3.250000            6.016000            0.380800            -4.193031           0.510800            -2.917491           False               False               False
Te1/0/10  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/11  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/12  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/13  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/14  32.582031           3.387400            6.000000            0.500000            -3.010300           0.400000            -3.979400           False               False               False
Te1/0/15  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Te1/0/16  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --                  --
Oh, and here is the ethtool output you requested ;-)

Code:
root@pve2:~# ethtool -m ens11f1
    Identifier                                : 0x03 (SFP)
    Extended identifier                       : 0x04 (GBIC/SFP defined by 2-wire interface ID)
    Connector                                 : 0x07 (LC)
    Transceiver codes                         : 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Transceiver type                          : 10G Ethernet: 10G Base-SR
    Encoding                                  : 0x06 (64B/66B)
    BR, Nominal                               : 10300MBd
    Rate identifier                           : 0x00 (unspecified)
    Length (SMF,km)                           : 0km
    Length (SMF)                              : 0m
    Length (50um)                             : 80m
    Length (62.5um)                           : 20m
    Length (Copper)                           : 0m
    Length (OM3)                              : 300m
    Laser wavelength                          : 850nm
    Vendor name                               : Wiitek
    Vendor OUI                                : 00:00:00
    Vendor PN                                 : SFP-10G-T-100
    Vendor rev                                : 1
    Option values                             : 0x00 0x1a
    Option                                    : RX_LOS implemented
    Option                                    : TX_FAULT implemented
    Option                                    : TX_DISABLE implemented
    BR margin, max                            : 0%
    BR margin, min                            : 0%
    Vendor SN                                 : WAMZ012409X25C
    Date code                                 : 240914
    Optical diagnostics support               : Yes
    Laser bias current                        : 0.000 mA
    Laser output power                        : 0.0000 mW / -inf dBm
    Receiver signal average optical power     : 0.0000 mW / -inf dBm
    Module temperature                        : 23.53 degrees C / 74.35 degrees F
    Module voltage                            : 3.3619 V
    Alarm/warning flags implemented           : Yes
    Laser bias current high alarm             : Off
    Laser bias current low alarm              : On
    Laser bias current high warning           : Off
    Laser bias current low warning            : On
    Laser output power high alarm             : Off
    Laser output power low alarm              : On
    Laser output power high warning           : Off
    Laser output power low warning            : On
    Module temperature high alarm             : Off
    Module temperature low alarm              : Off
    Module temperature high warning           : Off
    Module temperature low warning            : Off
    Module voltage high alarm                 : Off
    Module voltage low alarm                  : Off
    Module voltage high warning               : Off
    Module voltage low warning                : Off
    Laser rx power high alarm                 : Off
    Laser rx power low alarm                  : On
    Laser rx power high warning               : Off
    Laser rx power low warning                : On
    Laser bias current high alarm threshold   : 15.000 mA
    Laser bias current low alarm threshold    : 1.000 mA
    Laser bias current high warning threshold : 13.000 mA
    Laser bias current low warning threshold  : 2.000 mA
    Laser output power high alarm threshold   : 1.9952 mW / 3.00 dBm
    Laser output power low alarm threshold    : 0.1584 mW / -8.00 dBm
    Laser output power high warning threshold : 1.5848 mW / 2.00 dBm
    Laser output power low warning threshold  : 0.1778 mW / -7.50 dBm
    Module temperature high alarm threshold   : 95.00 degrees C / 203.00 degrees F
    Module temperature low alarm threshold    : -50.00 degrees C / -58.00 degrees F
    Module temperature high warning threshold : 90.00 degrees C / 194.00 degrees F
    Module temperature low warning threshold  : -45.00 degrees C / -49.00 degrees F
    Module voltage high alarm threshold       : 3.6000 V
    Module voltage low alarm threshold        : 3.0000 V
    Module voltage high warning threshold     : 3.5000 V
    Module voltage low warning threshold      : 3.1000 V
    Laser rx power high alarm threshold       : 1.1220 mW / 0.50 dBm
    Laser rx power low alarm threshold        : 0.0199 mW / -17.01 dBm
    Laser rx power high warning threshold     : 1.0000 mW / 0.00 dBm
    Laser rx power low warning threshold      : 0.0223 mW / -16.52 dBm
 
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Now that these more modern 10GBASE-T transceivers are available for a similar price as the older ones, these are definitely a much better choice. :)

Thanks for the ethtool output!
 

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@Jabes Looks like your new 10G SFP+ are running significantly cooler. Are those "Wiitek" ones you tested those you ordered from Amazon or from Aliexpress (NVOC ones). I'm thinking on getting the Aliexpress ones, as Amazon.co.uk does not ship to Switzerland.
 

Jabes

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@Jabes Looks like your new 10G SFP+ are running significantly cooler. Are those "Wiitek" ones you tested those you ordered from Amazon or from Aliexpress (NVOC ones). I'm thinking on getting the Aliexpress ones, as Amazon.co.uk does not ship to Switzerland.
These are the wiitek ones (they have kept to 41 degrees). They actually come from USA (amazon.com), but amazon.co.uk had a listing including free shipping to UK which was nice. I wonder if your local equivalent would be the same?
If you do get the NVOC ones I'd be really interested to know how they compare. I'm tempted to order one but I don't really need any more (especially with the spare 30m ones I've removed)