Toshiba announces 12 new 3.5"desktop drives

[odditory]

Nothing looks changed in firmware with the new Toshiba drives which are, again, by all accounts restickered Hitachi's, BUILT by HGST in the same fab, so according to a few sources nothing has changed. mwroobel may be able to comment further if he's past his NDA.

Really no surprise here - and for me these new 1TB/platter Toshiba's will be the new gold standard for home storage going forward, especially for anyone that was already a fan of Hitachi.

 

[fnc1]

Nothing looks changed in firmware with the new Toshiba drives which are, again, by all accounts restickered Hitachi's, BUILT by HGST in the same fab, so according to a few sources nothing has changed. mwroobel may be able to comment further if he's past his NDA.

Really no surprise here - and for me these new 1TB/platter Toshiba's will be the new gold standard for home storage going forward, especially for anyone that was already a fan of Hitachi.

- I was asking becuase I saw someone mention TLER in the comments section in the post where you had the link to the tonoko site but I couldnt get it translated.

- Are the DT01ABA 1tb/platter drives OR do the 1tb/platter drives have some other model numbers?

 

[fnc1]

Got one of the DT01ABA300 drives today
Right now its hooked up via USB

But here are the stats.
Before I buy 4 more to expand my Raid Array - Does anyone Have any suggestions on things i should Check?
Or does anyone have any other commands they would like to see?

[577002.574273] usbcore: registered new interface driver uas
[577002.592068] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[577002.592209] scsi6 : usb-storage 2-3:1.0
[577002.592288] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
[577002.592290] USB Mass Storage support registered.
[577011.863363] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Toshiba External USB 3.0 0201 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
[577011.870328] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[577011.870895] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 732566646 4096-byte logical blocks: (3.00 TB/2.72 TiB)
[577011.873015] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[577011.873019] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 2f 00 00 00
[577011.874117] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[577011.874990] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 732566646 4096-byte logical blocks: (3.00 TB/2.72 TiB)
[577011.897166] sdb: sdb1
[577011.899101] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 732566646 4096-byte logical blocks: (3.00 TB/2.72 TiB)
[577011.901865] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
**************************************************
sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
Note: sector size is 4096 (not 512)

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/sdb: 3000.6 GB, 3000592982016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 45600 cylinders, total 732566646 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x2836f042

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 256 732566271 2930264064 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

********************************************
sudo hdparm -H /dev/sdb

/dev/sdb:
drive temperature (celsius) is: under -20
drive temperature in range: yes
*********************************************
sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdb

/dev/sdb:

ATA device, with non-removable media
Model Number: Hitachi HDS5C3030BLE630
Serial Number: MCE921********
Firmware Revision: MZ6OAAB0
Transport: Serial, ATA8-AST, SATA 1.0a, SATA II Extensions, SATA Rev 2.5, SATA Rev 2.6, SATA Rev 3.0; Revision: ATA8-AST T13 Project D1697 Revision 0b
Standards:
Used: unknown (minor revision code 0x0029)
Supported: 8 7 6 5
Likely used: 8
Configuration:
Logical max current
cylinders 16383 16383
heads 16 16
sectors/track 63 63
--
CHS current addressable sectors: 16514064
LBA user addressable sectors: 268435455
LBA48 user addressable sectors: 5860533168
Logical Sector size: 512 bytes
Physical Sector size: 4096 bytes
Logical Sector-0 offset: 0 bytes
device size with M = 1024*1024: 2861588 MBytes
device size with M = 1000*1000: 3000592 MBytes (3000 GB)
cache/buffer size = 22756 KBytes (type=DualPortCache)
Form Factor: 3.5 inch
Nominal Media Rotation Rate: 5940
Capabilities:
LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)
Queue depth: 32
Standby timer values: spec'd by Standard, no device specific minimum
R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 16 Current = 0
Advanced power management level: 1
DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 *udma4 udma5 udma6
Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
Cycle time: no flow control=120ns IORDY flow control=120ns
Commands/features:
Enabled Supported:
* SMART feature set
Security Mode feature set
* Power Management feature set
* Write cache
* Look-ahead
* Host Protected Area feature set
* WRITE_BUFFER command
* READ_BUFFER command
* NOP cmd
* DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
* Advanced Power Management feature set
Power-Up In Standby feature set
* SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
SET_MAX security extension
* 48-bit Address feature set
* Device Configuration Overlay feature set
* Mandatory FLUSH_CACHE
* FLUSH_CACHE_EXT
* SMART error logging
* SMART self-test
Media Card Pass-Through
* General Purpose Logging feature set
* WRITE_{DMA|MULTIPLE}_FUA_EXT
* 64-bit World wide name
* URG for READ_STREAM[_DMA]_EXT
* URG for WRITE_STREAM[_DMA]_EXT
* WRITE_UNCORRECTABLE_EXT command
* {READ,WRITE}_DMA_EXT_GPL commands
* Segmented DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
unknown 119[7]
* Gen1 signaling speed (1.5Gb/s)
* Gen2 signaling speed (3.0Gb/s)
* Gen3 signaling speed (6.0Gb/s)
* Native Command Queueing (NCQ)
* Host-initiated interface power management
* Phy event counters
* NCQ priority information
Non-Zero buffer offsets in DMA Setup FIS
DMA Setup Auto-Activate optimization
Device-initiated interface power management
In-order data delivery
* Software settings preservation
* SMART Command Transport (SCT) feature set
* SCT LBA Segment Access (AC2)
* SCT Error Recovery Control (AC3)
* SCT Features Control (AC4)
* SCT Data Tables (AC5)
Security:
Master password revision code = 65534
supported
not enabled
not locked
not frozen
not expired: security count
not supported: enhanced erase
508min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT.
Logical Unit WWN Device Identifier: 5000cca*********
NAA : 5
IEEE OUI : 000cca
Unique ID : *********
Checksum: correct
*****************************************
lshw -class disk -class storage

*-disk
description: SCSI Disk
product: External USB 3.0
vendor: Toshiba
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@6:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sdb
version: 0201
serial: ******** <-this was way off
size: 2794GiB (3TB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=6 signature=2836f042
****************************************

sudo smartctl -d sat -a -i /dev/sdb
smartctl 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [x86_64-linux-3.2.0-32-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: Hitachi HDS5C3030BLE630
Serial Number: MCE921********
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca *********
Firmware Version: MZ6OAAB0
User Capacity: 3,000,592,982,016 bytes [3.00 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: 8
ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4
Local Time is: Sun Nov 4 14:01:21 2012 CST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART STATUS RETURN: incomplete response, ATA output registers missing
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
Warning: This result is based on an Attribute check.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (26737) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 255) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 054 Pre-fail Offline - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 100 100 024 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 3
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 020 Pre-fail Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 3
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 181 181 000 Old_age Always - 33 (Min/Max 25/33)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
******************************************

 

[odditory]

Congrats that's the perfect home storage drive to my mind, 5900RPM and 1TB/platter so low temps and throughput not that far off from the 7200RPM due to the platter density narrowing that wide gap in throughput that's traditionally existed between the to rotation speeds. .

And it still shows as a Hitachi device, as expected. just run a full read/write test of the disk surface and I'd say you were good to go.

 

[fnc1]

Do you have a recommended tool (preferably free) for doing a full read/write - or a linux command?

 

[mobilenvidia]

A full (slow) initialise will also pick up any issues on a LSI controller

 

[cactus]

Do you have a recommended tool (preferably free) for doing a full read/write - or a linux command?

badblocks(linux) will write a pattern to the disk and then read it back and verify. Just used it on 3x new Seagate 3TB and 3x 2TB WD Greens, one green didn't last. "badblocks -sw -c 4096 -b 4096" seemed to keep the drives saturated. Still took >10 hours per write/read pass though.

 

[fnc1]

Right now I am doing a badblocks check on the drives, they are at ~92% with 76 hours and counting (on the third test atleast) I tried to run smrtctl -t long but it wouldnt run I think this is becase the drives are hooked up via USB.

I do plan on taking some pics when i pull the drives apart, Im not sure if i can do a video or not, but i will post up a write-up with where all the tabs are somewhere.

Warranty Info:

Toshiba says to check here for external drives: http://acclaim.toshiba.com/
Went there and checked putting in the S/N on the box and enclosure it couldnt find it,
Putting in the model number said it wasnt in the database.

Warranty Check for Drives Going here: https://myapps.taec.toshiba.com/myap...jsp?Action=NEW

Putting in the S/N number listed on the BOX / Enclosure / Drive itself returns:
Out Of Warranty Serial number determined to be sold to a system manufacturer with a unique system warranty and should be returned through the system manufacturer. If you have any questions you may contact Toshiba at 1-877-689-4899. Exp Date: 2015/08/31

Putting in the 12 digit T-S/N listed Only on the Drive returns:
In Warranty In warranty. Exp Date: 2015/07/31

****Date printed on drive is JUL-2012, NOTE that the experation date is indeed 3 years here..****

Odd I couldnt verify warranty info anywhere on any of the links that they had for the SN or Model number listed on the external

This is cool, doesnt apply here but:
Notice: Effective September 1, 2012, Toshiba is changing the warranty coverage on certain mobile 2.5-inch 5400 RPM and 7200 RPM hard disk drive (HDD) products. The warranty period will change from 1 years to a 3 year period. This warranty policy will apply to all designated, mobile 2.5-inch hard drive models purchased as of the new warranty effective date of September 1, 2012. Toshiba 2.5-inch mobile HDDs purchased before this date will be supported under the prior, 1 year warranty term. For full details on Toshiba's warranty coverage, please select the appropriate link below.

 

[fnc1]

Here is how i open them

http://imgur.com/a/OSydS

1) Start with this corner the two white lines indicate where the first two tabe are

2) you will apply presure here on the 'vents' - push in

3) once you can fit a tool inside work your way down the drive on the side with the connectors to release all tabe, pulling up gently here may help

4) do the same with the side, once you have the first tab depressed, you can use a tool and gently slide the tool from the longer vents to the smaller ones

5) work the side with the connectors in the same fashion toward the smaller end

6) you should have 6 tabs that loosened now, you can leave your tool in or remove it at this point. - Now you want to push in (towards the drive) on the vents

7) use two hands, and gently pull the enclosure apart from the vent ends with slowly while pressting in on the piece with the vent

8) once you get a small gap your set to work on the long side without the vents

9) there should be enough of a crack between the two halfs where number 1 points (right by the blue led light) - use your tools to enter here, then slide it down as 2 indicates

10) at this point you can work/wiggle the two halfs apart... Note i havent been able to get the 8 tabs inside to not break, my guess is at the factory they have the same problem should they open the enclosure... the Green circle in the front is the one tab that remained on the inner locks. The red circle shows a broken one - and the white circles show where these 'inner tabs' attach to each other

11) a close of view of where all the outer tabs lie

 

[fnc1]

so far so good... just got done adding 5 of these to my raid6 with 5 of the old hitachis... took 2-3 days to expand the array, seconds to grow the fs... and now im copying some data...

df /dev/sdc
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdc 23435323392 7149128976 16286194416 31% /mnt/array0

df -h /dev/sdc
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdc 22T 6.7T 16T 31% /mnt/array0

 

[odditory]

Not sure if anyone caught it but Toshiba 4TB's announced a few weeks ago, pretty much on predicted schedule. Review/test samples shipping now with volume shipments scheduled for early 2013.

Specifications
Models
SATA Standard: MG03ACA400, Encryption: MG03ACA400Y
SAS Standard: MG03SCA400, Encryption: MG03SCP400
Capacity: 4TB (5x800GB)
Buffer size: 64MiB FIFO ring buffer
Rotation speed: 7,200 rpm
Average latency time: 4.17 ms
Average seek time (read): 8.5 ms
Average seek time (write): 9.5 ms
Sustained transfer rate (maximum): 165 MB/s
Reliability
Load/Unload: 600,000 times
MTTF: 1,200,000 hours
Allowable voltage: 5V ±5%, 12V ±5%
Power consumption
Read/Write: 11.3 W
Low power idle: 6.0 W
Operating Temperature: 5-55℃
Acoustics: 31 dB

 

[john4200]

I saw that. I was disappointed not to see anything about a low-power ~5400rpm model. It seems now Toshiba and Seagate are both downplaying the low power HDD market.

 

[odditory]

7200RPM is usually first out of the gate on a new form factor, at least with HGST historically speaking. And since Toshiba seems to be following the path of Hitachi's former desktop roadmap, I'm pretty sure a 5x00 RPM is slated for Q1 2013.

As for Seagate downplaying low power, I'm not sure thats true, because since moving to the 1TB/platform, less platters = less heads = less heat and they decided that the traditional gap in performance thats existed between 5900RPM and 7200RPM had narrowed significantly enough that creating a separate line 5900RPM was considered trivial. Or so they claimed. But in my testing its pretty much been true. 3-platter ST3000DM001's run temps at or below what my 5-platter 5960RPM Hitachi 3TB's ran, both idle and active.

 

[john4200]

I was not talking only about 4TB, sorry if my previous comment was unclear. I do not see any 5400rpm 3TB or 2TB HDDs from Toshiba, either. At least, newegg only carries 7200rpm 2TB and 3TB Toshiba HDDs. And I have not seen any announcement from Toshiba about 5400rpm versions of those HDDs.

Interesting point about the Seagate 1TB platter 7200rpm HDDs being equivalent power to 600GB platter 5400rpm HDDs. Although I have a major problem with buying an HDD that the manufacturer has so little confidence in that they only include a 1 year warranty. Anything less than 3 years seems to me an admission that quality control is not an important consideration.

I do see on newegg that there is an SV35 model for the same price as the Barracuda, except the SV35 comes with a 3 year warranty (according to newegg's details on the product). The SV35 is supposedly for video surveillance applications, but I guess it should work as a storage drive also.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148901

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148907


At least the 5400rpm 4TB HGST HDDs are still available ($225 from bhphotovideo or J&R)

 

[lifespeed]

Got one of the DT01ABA300 drives today
Right now its hooked up via USB

Where can these be purchased? I have been unable to find any for sale.

Edit: It looks like you bought the USB3.0 Toshiba Canvio external drive and gutted it for the drive? Apparently the only way to get a 3 TB Toshiba DT01ABA300 . . .

 

[lifespeed]

Just ordered two USB 3.0 TOSHIBA Canvio Desk 3TB Black Desktop External Hard Drive HDWC130XK3J1 from Newegg. I'll gut them for the DT01ABA30 drives inside, which is apparently the only way you can buy these 5940 RPM drives.

With another 6 TB my (soon to be) 8-drive 3TB Hitachi 5K3000 RAID 6 could last me for several more years. Not bad for a middle-of-the-road Highpoint 3520 array that has already lasted through one set of Seagate ES.2 drives and 5 years of use. It will probably be 8 or 9 years old by the time I finally get around to upgrading to the latest Areca RAID card and a new set of drives.

The drives are on sale at Newegg for $120 right now if you enter their promotion code.

 

[apnar]

fnc1, lifespeed, or anyone else using a drive from the 3TB Toshiba Canvio,

Are you guys happy with them? I'm considering grabbing a dozen for a bump to my NAS but haven't seen any feedback of actual use yet. Any firmware issues, like overly aggressive spin down?

 

[leagle]

I see a lot of DOA reports on the newegg reviews page for the Canvio 3tb. Has anyone here that is using the bare drive had any problems. I'm hoping it is an enclosure problem.

 

[Scout255]

In general if you look at all new egg hard drive reviews there are a LOT of DOA reports. It would appear that their packaging is sub par as is their handling of the drives before shipment. I wouldn't let those reviews discourage you too much.

 

[1010]

Small update
RE: Toshiba 3.5" retail kits for low power variants (DT01ABA100, DT01ABA200, DT01ABA300)


Toshiba recently introduced the DT series, packaging 3.5" low power drives in Europe. This is good news for enthusiasts which would prefer an alternative option for low cost, lower power storage (rather than breaking open Toshiba externals and voiding the warranty). Now we need to apply pressure on North American retailers like Amazon.com and Newegg.com to stock the following models.


# Toshiba Product Overview
3.5" SATA Hard Drive - Toshiba

# Toshiba EU Declaration of Conformity (Feb. 8, 2013)
https://epps.toshiba-teg.com/DownFile.aspx?ObjectID=100283764



Toshiba DT Series
--------------------------------------
3.5" SATA Hard Drive, DT Series, 3TB - Toshiba
Capacity.: 3TB
RPM......: 5940
Buffer...: 32MB
Model....: DT01ABA300
Part #...: PA4293E-1HN0


3.5" SATA Hard Drive, DT Series, 2TB - Toshiba
Capacity.: 2TB
RPM......: 5700
Buffer...: 32MB
Model....: DT01ABA200
Part #...: PA4292E-1HL0


3.5" SATA Hard Drive, DT Series, 1TB - Toshiba
Capacity.: 1TB
RPM......: 5700
Buffer...: 32MB
Model....: DT01ABA100
Part #...: PA4291E-1HJ0