1.2TB LSI Nytro Warp Drive PCIe SSDs - $240

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Marsh

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Those of you buying these are you willing to explain what you intend on doing with them or how support is for them?
For $200 each 1.2TB SSD, it will serve as capacity tier , then use SAS SSD , (may be Intel P3500 or P3600)as cache tier.
 

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I keep missing this. Any idea if this will work with FreeNAS? I could definitely use a cache drive but SATA drives won't keep up with 10GbE so this would be great.

Looks like there is a FreeBSD driver available just a matter of what it will take to install on a neutered implementation that is used for FreeNAS.
Usually, FreeBSD drivers work with FreeNAS, just need to compile them. (As it happened with an old Areca raid controller that i had around sometimes ago for me.)
 
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Hopefully with it being LSI based it will just work but doubtful.

Edit: Ordered one.
 
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OH YEAH. 4@$200.00 2 months ago I thought the 1.3TB FusionIO cards were a steal at $400.00 Crikey.
 
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For $200 each 1.2TB SSD, it will serve as capacity tier , then use SAS SSD , (may be Intel P3500 or P3600)as cache tier.
That doesn't really make sense, though, because that Nytro should deliver about 300K read IOPS and up to 3GB/s (which is still triple what a 12Gb SAS3 drive can deliver). The P3500 has the same sequential, less than double the random read and 1/4 the random write IOPS. P3600 isn't that much better (ok I suppose you could cache the 1.2TB with a 2TB P3600, but that's severely bass-ackwards).

I'd consider 2 for my VM storage (backing disk is 3TB SATA) but I'm running out of slots.
 
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That doesn't really make sense, though, because that Nytro should deliver about 300K read IOPS and up to 3GB/s (which is still triple what a 12Gb SAS3 drive can deliver). The P3500 has the same sequential, less than double the random read and 1/4 the random write IOPS. P3600 isn't that much better (ok I suppose you could cache the 1.2TB with a 2TB P3600, but that's severely bass-ackwards).

I'd consider 2 for my VM storage (backing disk is 3TB SATA) but I'm running out of slots.
It interesting how this has developed over the last 8 months. Last summer I was hoping to fit some 160GB FusionIO cards in as cache for SAS arrays. now that this price point has dropped so dramatically, I'm just going to use "SAS" for slow storage, and the PCI's for fast / user facing storage.
 

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@DavidRa
just wild guess and pull it out of my ass.
This is for my home lab of 1 person, and some test vms. My best guess is that even 1 480gb sata ssd iops is suffice for my real need.
I been retired 20years ago, the purpose of homelab is for me wanting to get of bed at 6:00am to learn and experiment.
 

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@Marsh We all need that at one point, even when i'm in vacation, i need to fill my days with something. (And with 6 weeks of vacations a year, there's so much i can do... So sometimes, i just build a lab, whatever it is (Red Hat, Hyper-V, but most likely a new VMware Product, as I'm aiming for VCDX next year. :) (Got CCE-V, RHCA-Cloud, MCSE already, need to finish the VMware branch now) )
 
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I am very interested in this, but does anyone knows if supermicro board x8 or x9 series support 75W out of their PCI-E x8 or x16 slot to support this card ??

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1.2TB for 240 USD :eek:
...so where is the catch? Is it the missing auxiliary cable (I guess these cards can't be used in a Supermicro X9DRi-F without this cable)?
 

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1.2TB for 240 USD :eek:
...so where is the catch? Is it the missing auxiliary cable (I guess these cards can't be used in a Supermicro X9DRi-F without this cable)?
I am wondering the same thing.
 

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Perhaps we'll find the answer when they are all gone...

(But that things looks definately interesting: one LSI SAS2308 seems to handly multiple LSI/Sandforce SF2582 Controller/SSDs. Now I understand the question regarding IT mode on the first page of this topic... But why shouldn't that thing be bootable - we can boot from regular LSI SAS2308/2008 cards, can't we!?)
 

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Just FYI from manual:

NOTE
Make sure that the PCIe slot is ca
pable of providing 75 W of power.
Otherwise, install the auxilia
ry power cable shown in the
following figure. The auxiliary power cable connects to an auxiliary
power supply


Also, from another manual:

The Nytro WarpDrive 6301 card includes the following product models.
Ta b l e
1 ***ProductNameShort*** Card Product Models
Device Name
Model Name
***ProductNameShort***
NWD-BFH6-1200

***ProductNameShort***
NWD-BFH8-1600
***ProductNameShort***
NWD-BFH8-3200



So it most def. sounds like you need the AUX power cable to run these.

 

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Super Micro Computer, Inc. - FAQ Entry

What is X8DA3 PCIe slot +3.3V_Aux power rating? per slot?
Answer
The maximum power rating of each slot based on the PSU and the power cables for PCIE, take SMC 2U, 3U and 4U system for example : +3.3V 24A / 79.2W ; 30A / 99W ; 36A / 118.8W , Based on the PCI-SIG SPEC, Single PCIE : 75W, PCIE + 6 pin : 150W, PCIE + 6 pin + 6 pin : 225W, PCIE + 6 pin + 8 pin : 300W.
 

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1.2TB for 240 USD :eek:
...so where is the catch? Is it the missing auxiliary cable (I guess these cards can't be used in a Supermicro X9DRi-F without this cable)?
I am wondering the same thing.
The catch is 75w of power, who wants 1.2TB only that needs 75w of power...
I sure hope power is cheap for those of you who got 4+ units ;)
 

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So I guess most supermicro server will support this card without the aux cable, this is good to know. I wonder now how much left on the ssd.
Anyway I tried offering 2 for $200 each and got auto decline :(
 

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Don't forget with the power they need and could need on high-write usage they will need a good amount of air flow too.