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RobertFontaine

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I don't even know where to start but the crossover 40" 4k's amaze me....

I still need a couple of handfuls of 2670's, motherboards, enclosures, ram, plus...

But it's time to add a big 4k monitor to the pile of unpurchased hardware and a 40" 4k takes less room than 2 27" monitors so it would be like I was cutting back :)
 
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CreoleLakerFan

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Indeed! I have a Seiki Pro 40" 4k, and it takes up less space and uses significantly less wattage than the three monitors it replaced. Doesn't look nearly as cool as my old 20-30-20 PLP setup buy has the advantage of being fully functional, which my u3011 was not.

Going to look at leasing office space tomorrow - considering a curved 34" ultra wide for that space. Currently using a pair of U2311's in my home office for productivity, but the resolution and thick bezel leaves something to be desired. The bezels make the middle of the space unuseable, so I have to turn my face to either side to work ... It gets a little uncomfortable about the neck area after a while
 

chinesestunna

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@CreoleLakerFan dude, the 20-30-20 is my dream setup, just got the u3014 but getting 4:3 20" units to match it is tough esp. given the age and going price for such old hardware. What "fully functional" issues did you run into?
 

T_Minus

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I'm rocking some 24" Dell 4Ks as my side/flank monitors, really like them!
Still using an HP ZR30w as my center/main screen -- really like it, just wish it was a bit higher-res!! Which reminds me I need to sell/trade the other 2 30s! I tried using 3x30s and I really liked the setup but wow talk about power usage and heat!!!!

I know many people who "work" on their computers 8+ hours per-day and they tried the Korean monitors and after anywhere from 10-15 months they all replaced them with 'branded' screens from reputable companies that had warranties or were 'known' good. It seems the screens "look" great they just don't actually hold up if you use them day-in and day-out.

YMMV

I've had great luck with Dell screens and just replaced all my 2001FPs (on primary systems) in the last 12 months, and my original dell HC 30" was replaced too. The dell 30" I use in my other office, and the smaller dells I now use for rack gear, test bench, my parents have a few in use, etc... still going strong with THOUSANDS (high) of hours... I need to check hours on some, some are visibly dimmer than others due to being 'original' main monitors back in the day. Also, I get the dell monitors when I have a 20-30% off coupon and brings the price VERY LOW. i was shocked to find out I spent almost $600 or something insane on the odl 2001fps, i actually still have my old old old sony 18" flat screen too, still going strong after thousands upon thousands and years of usage.
 

chinesestunna

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@T_Minus I think for me the appeal for 20-30-20 is that the pixel pitch is perfectly aligned and bezels when using 3007 + 2007 Dells. I don't want like a super wide setup with 3x(16:10) units, hence 20-30-20 is my ideal
 

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@T_Minus I think for me the appeal for 20-30-20 is that the pixel pitch is perfectly aligned and bezels when using 3007 + 2007 Dells. I don't want like a super wide setup with 3x(16:10) units, hence 20-30-20 is my ideal
Yeah, going to wide-screen with the 24s wasn't my favorite thing but I desperately needed the added real estate & density... physically they're in the way slightly too, but, oh-well you give up some things and get more :) Now I can fit all my communications in my right screen, and all my monitoring/logs/etc in my left + docs if I'm working on some writing/etc... cetner screen editors/internet/ssh that movie between other screens, calc, etc...

Over the years I think we get into good work flows and organization but I've tried to make it a point lately to "re-think" my setups and optimize my usage/screens... I try to keep my left screen off as much as possible as I don't need it REALLY that much and it does ad dheat and $$/electric :D LOL
 

chinesestunna

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Yeah, going to wide-screen with the 24s wasn't my favorite thing but I desperately needed the added real estate & density... physically they're in the way slightly too, but, oh-well you give up some things and get more :) Now I can fit all my communications in my right screen, and all my monitoring/logs/etc in my left + docs if I'm working on some writing/etc... cetner screen editors/internet/ssh that movie between other screens, calc, etc...

Over the years I think we get into good work flows and organization but I've tried to make it a point lately to "re-think" my setups and optimize my usage/screens... I try to keep my left screen off as much as possible as I don't need it REALLY that much and it does ad dheat and $$/electric :D LOL
lol true, actually I have 2x24"s at work + my macbook screen and I do like it, guess it's more to do how they are "wrapped" around you.
 

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I assume you are talking about these?
Crossover 404K(44K Follow-Up) UHD LED 40" 3840x2160 4K VA Monitor

Not too shabby Specs:
Model :404K(44K Follow-Up) UHD LED
Type 40Inch (100.5cm)
Panel VA
Screen Size 878.11 x 485.35
Resolution Displayport 3840x2160 @ 60Hz , HDMI2.0 3840X2160 @ 60Hz , DVI 3840X2160 @ 30Hz
Contrast 5,000 : 1
Luminosity 350 cd/㎡
Displacement Color 8bit + FRC , 1.07G Colors
Response Rate 5 ms
- Flicker free

I can live with 60Hz for gaming on a 4k monitor.
 

Gary Gapinski

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I've been using a Seiki SE39UY04 at both home and work for about two years. Would not go back to smaller or multiple monitors. Any new monitors will be about 40-inch. The older Seikis lack DisplayPort, but their new one has that (for about 2–3× the price). The SE39UY04 often is available for $250, which makes it easy to accept any minor shortcomings.

40 inches seems about right. I haven't tried anything larger, but such might be a bit too large.
 

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30hz at 4k would leave lots of artifacts on the screen for heavy gaming. Perfect for work applications at that price.

I have a pair of 27" CatLeaps that I love to death at 1440p, the heat that comes off those babies is enough to cook your lunch on but hot damn are they clear.
 

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@CreoleLakerFan dude, the 20-30-20 is my dream setup, just got the u3014 but getting 4:3 20" units to match it is tough esp. given the age and going price for such old hardware. What "fully functional" issues did you run into?
My U3011 stopped working ~6 months past it's warranty expiration. Dell does not repair UltraSharp monitors - they will send a replacement for units covered under warranty, but you are on your own if they stop functioning out of warranty. I have read that the U3011's had a design issue which caused a common component to fail early - the U3007's were far more reliable.

I put this setup together 3-4 years ago - I purchased a pair of refurbished 2007FPS from the Dell Store on ebay for around $ 170 ea (shipped). They came with some sort of warranty, can't remember how long it was, but I never had any issues with them. The 2007FPS monitors are workhorses, the problem with buying something that old is cost and power utilization. Six months ago I saw new listings for them @ $400, but all I see now are refurbs.

Each 2007 drew 50-75W with the brightness set low. The power utilization on the 20-30-20 was insane - I reduced energy consumption by something like 150-200W when I scrapped the setup for my 40" 4k. My home office faces the west and has two large windows it was difficult to keep the office tolerably cool during summer afternoons.

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FWIW, my Seiki Pro runs so cool I can't tell it is there - I cannot discern any heat with my hand resting on the panel. I had my 30" flanked by two 20" 4:3 in portrait - all three were pulling a total of ~150W with the brightness at 0 - if I set it at 100 they were pulling a total of 250w. The Seiki pulls less than 50W with brightness at 0. My office stays so much cooler now.
 
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definetly save power consumption due on using LED backlight....

the question is to whom planning to buy,

I have no plan replacing my dual( third screen is a crappy T430 laptop screen) screen 24" (not 1080p) in the future, unless one of them is going to die..
I prefer dual screen than one big screen. that hurt my eyes...
the other thing.... my laptop(desktop) can not run 4K resolution, T430
once for awhile, I visit avsforum to see some configuration and read reviews

I tested my 5 years old "smart" Samsung non-led tv 46", holly molly.....150W-170W on average :(....
and my very old LG 42" (bought in 2006, yeah 1080i, 720p natively)..... 200W on average :D
those are ok compared with my other 62" mistubishi DLP TV..... 270W on average.. yeah the bulb is the guy...

my rule of thumb on display/TV, never replace it till the last drop :p.......

I usually buy not bleeding technology on display/TV... for a good deal. Still waiting middle/highend 4K TV (not display) to going down in 2 years, that would replace old LG 42" t
 

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Crossover has new 32 and 28 inch 4k IPS monitors listed on eBay. I think those are more worthwhile to look at, especially for color reproduction. Not to mention, I actually tried a 40 inch 4k VA panel mode, but it was just way too big for desktop use. Personally, I think 32 inch would be the sweet spot, especially in Windows environment.
 

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I'm actually looking to go towards "4k wide" WQHD for my next monitor. Something like the LG 34UC97. 3340x1440 seems much more practical than a 40" 4k 16:9 TV. Not sure if I'm sold on curved screens. Best price I've seen is still over $800 so its still a bit rich.

Anybody seen a Korean eBay display in this format?
 

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I'm actually looking to go towards "4k wide" WQHD for my next monitor. Something like the LG 34UC97. 3340x1440 seems much more practical than a 40" 4k 16:9 TV. Not sure if I'm sold on curved screens. Best price I've seen is still over $800 so its still a bit rich.

Anybody seen a Korean eBay display in this format?
The Dell U3415W has been on sale recently for ~$650. I really like mine.
 

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Samsung has some screens that work really well: various JU and JS series 4k TVs will do 2160p@60hz 4:4:4 in PC mode with low lag. Hdmi 2.0 required though so currently only nvidia 9xx or a handful of overpriced skylake motherboards work. The JS panels have especially nice specs (10bit, HDR, etc) that would be even better with more bandwidth like displayport 1.3, sigh.

There were some really good bundle deals on the 40/48" last year which is like having quad 20/24" 1080p monitors with no bezel, and with single user curved is actually a nice benefit.

I said ****it and rebuilt my home workspace around a 65" JS9500 :)
 

andrewbedia

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I've brought up Korean 4k displays several times in various threads here. Everyone always replies with the abysmal (by comparison) seiki pro or significantly more pricey models from Dell, Samsung, etc. Just head over to the TekSyndicate forums and youtube channel. Go listen to Wendel's sweet voice talk about all the different 4k korea monitors for hours. He actually knows what he's talking about.

Full disclosure: I have the Crossover 404K. I would never touch Seiki with a 10 foot pole.