Intel S3500 800GB $129 lots available

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Jeggs101

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That's cheaper than a 128gb satadom. Good for proxmox root drives if you're doing zfs mirror. plenty of space
 

muhfugen

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SATA DOMs are generally SLC flash though, and dont take up a drive bay or consume (relatively) much power
 

Patrick

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This is great, and @Jeggs101 I have 9x 128GB and a few smaller SATA DOMs, the S3500 is a much better drive but it will either take a drive bay (or velcro spot) and it uses more power.

For a low power two drive Proxmox node, you are right. With the PICKUPTEN 10% off code these are $116 or $0.145 per GB.
 

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This or a used cloudspeed eco 960gb?

Cloudspeed eco is more recent and should have better endurance, but I never owned one. Never had issues with my S3500 300GB, but the 150GB more per drive is attractive...
 

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...so tempted. I can definitely buy a pair or 2 and stick it into the N40L for a zpool performance boost.
 

PigLover

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Looks like the same drive is available at similar prices from multiple sellers. Somebody is cleaning a very large data center and flooding the resale market. If any are taking offers you might get better prices.
 
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Hi. I am in the process of deciding on a drive to upgrade my cache drive on my unraid server/NAS. I currently am using a 250GB Evo 850 sata SSD, but need more storage. I use this drive for VM's, Docker application storage/metadata and caching transfers into my NAS. I was just going to purchase a Samsung 970 pro 1TB, throw it in a PCIE adapter and call it a day.

I occasionally transfer up to 100GB data so looking at sustained writes and was hoping to increase the performance of my VM's.

Negating the size difference, would the s3500 be better for this application? I am planning on setting up 10G network between said server/nas and my workstation. The s3500 would also be almost 1/3 the cost.

Thanks for any insight
 

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Hi. I am in the process of deciding on a drive to upgrade my cache drive on my unraid server/NAS. I currently am using a 250GB Evo 850 sata SSD, but need more storage. I use this drive for VM's, Docker application storage/metadata and caching transfers into my NAS. I was just going to purchase a Samsung 970 pro 1TB, throw it in a PCIE adapter and call it a day.

I occasionally transfer up to 100GB data so looking at sustained writes and was hoping to increase the performance of my VM's.

Negating the size difference, would the s3500 be better for this application? I am planning on setting up 10G network between said server/nas and my workstation. The s3500 would also be almost 1/3 the cost.

Thanks for any insight
Eh, it's still going to hit the SATA performance wall of about 600MB/sec/spindle, but that can be partially mitigated via mirrored RAID. Short of buying exclusively NVMe storage on machines that have a shedload of PCIe lanes (which will mean another massive set of spending), your next set of overhead will be protocol and network adapter performance on 10/40GbE. It's always a good idea to buy cheap storage (and I don't think 1TB drives will dip below 20 cents/GB until late 2019), but you'll probably want to look into things like RDMA soon. That'll have a better payoff.
 

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Hi. I am in the process of deciding on a drive to upgrade my cache drive on my unraid server/NAS. I currently am using a 250GB Evo 850 sata SSD, but need more storage. I use this drive for VM's, Docker application storage/metadata and caching transfers into my NAS. I was just going to purchase a Samsung 970 pro 1TB, throw it in a PCIE adapter and call it a day.

I occasionally transfer up to 100GB data so looking at sustained writes and was hoping to increase the performance of my VM's.

Negating the size difference, would the s3500 be better for this application? I am planning on setting up 10G network between said server/nas and my workstation. The s3500 would also be almost 1/3 the cost.

Thanks for any insight
If you really wanted to speed everything up you should get an Optane 905p.
 

Evan

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@KC8FLB if you want to write 100gb at a time and want sustained performance done think of a Samsung consumer drive, the performance drops off usually after 20-35gb. But given it’s just home and a copy that’s also probably not a problem, it’s not going to be that annoying.

Hint: consumer drive speeds measured in small dataset, enterprise measures on steady state across the drive.
 
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Evan

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Get a dozen of these in a C3000 board or something with a bunch of SATA onboard and they would make a decent storage pool. Having said that 800gb is getting kind of small for some people.
 

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As an 8 drive raid 0 in my dungeon the s3500's are just fine.
A 4 drive NVME setup is probably better but my disposable income is constrained by swmbo.
 

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Since we are going off topic.
Here is my two cents.

8 x $130 Intel S3500 800gb SSD = $1040 , 6.4TB

Few months ago, there were 2 deals, 1.6TB NVME for $250 each.
4 x $250 Intel P3605 or Samsung NVME SSD = $1000 , 6.4TB

Today, current deal, @BackupProphet point out.
Intel P3500 2TB NVME @ $300 each.
3 x $300 Intel P3500 2TB NVME = $900 , 6TB

I am slowly stop buying SATA SSD unless price is below 10cent per GB.