ES Xeon Discussion

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Patriot

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with correcting an error, you can and will do so without being patronising.

Now, support your data:
  • Are those cores or threads
  • Clock rates, they matter
  • Single system being thread limited or multi.
  • What are the full system configs.
 

Dariusz

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If you are willing to wait that same processor has hit $399 and under. At the current price in my opinion it's overpriced even though it's a QS and has 4 additional cores over the 2683 V3 OEM version. The seller generally has good feedback as well and he can ship via EMS for an additional fee instead of Japan Post airmail. The last time it was at that price was summer of 2016 so it all depends on when the next sale or pricedrop will be.



You can also look at the E5-2630 V4. It's a 85W TDP part and usually has ES1/ES2 available. What kind of TDP do you have budgeted?
Interesting thanks! So the EMS is the way to go ? What about DHL/parcelforce etc etc?
 

mouse

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You can also look at the E5-2630 V4. It's a 85W TDP part and usually has ES1/ES2 available. What kind of TDP do you have budgeted?
My tdp was around 65w. But i'm searching the right compromise for tdp & price
My system had to hand some vm for home use... xpenology, mediaportal/kodi, Plex. No 24/24 usage but solid when needed
Supermicro x10srh-cln4f + nvme p3700 at the moment...
 

BigDaddy

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I bought 2 of those for 390 each this summer. Great processor. I think many people forget it will boost up to 3.5ghz. I can't think of another hcc es xeon v3 that will go that high. So if single threaded performance matters much to you it's still a deal. With 2 of them CB is 3800, not much behind 2699 v3. I believe they are custom made for Amazon. The v4 are used in AWS. They cost that much because everything else that is near it in both single and miltithreaded performance costs more.


1 core @ 3.5ghz 2 threads
2 cores @ 3.5ghz 4 threads
3 cores @ 3.5ghz 6 threads
4 cores @ 3.5ghz 8 threads
5 cores @ 3.4ghz 10 threads
6 cores @ 3.4ghz 12 threads
7 cores @ 3.3ghz 14 threads
8 cores @ 3.3ghz 16 threads
9 cores @ 3.2ghz 18 threads
10 cores @ 3.2ghz 20 threads
11 cores @ 3.1ghz 22 threads
12 cores @ 3.1ghz 24 threads
13 cores @ 3.0ghz 26 threads
14 cores @ 3.0ghz 28 threads
15 cores @ 2.9ghz 30 threads
16 cores @ 2.9ghz 32 threads
17 cores @ 2.8ghz 34 threads
18 cores @ 2.8ghz 36 threads
19 cores @ 2.7ghz 38 threads
20 cores @ 2.7ghz 40 threads
21 cores @ 2.6ghz 42 threads
22 cores @ 2.6ghz 44 threads
23+ cores @ 2.3ghz 46+ threads
up to 36 cores & 72 threads at 2.3 ghz


Hey
Is this a good cpu to pick ?

CPU seller link Intel Xeon E5-2686 v3 QS LGA2011-3 18C Compatible with X99 i7-6850K 6900K 6950X | eBay
Is he to be trusted that icomputer_parts....?
 

BigDaddy

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The day I bought mine the prices went above 500. Was crazy, the seller I bought from was the only one who hadn't raised the price yet.

You seem to be shopping for some very different CPUs. Looking at CB scores the 2683 are around 1.39x the 2630. The 2686 is about 1.65 that of 2630 and 1.19 that of the 2683. The 2683 is a much better choice IMO than the 2630, which has a crazy low price but the low clocks kill sc performance in a way that extra cores can't make up for. The 16% single threaded boost of the 2686 is a big deal your machine has few enough threads running when single threaded performance matters. Not a huge percent on total system cost for either of the higher options.

Over the 2630v4 I'd look at the 2658v3 for similar price and higher GHz. :) A powerful machine that can feel a lil slow when very little is running is :(.

Idk... I'm very happy with the 2686. Now I just need some more ram and ssd raid. :)


I missed out on the E5-2686 V3 QS this summer. Haven't seen them that low since. Now they are at least $500+ and in limited quantities. I'm hoping they go on-sale again. Otherwise it's going to be E5-2683 V3 for me or an E5-2630 V4 QK3G ES2 for me.
 

cburbs

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Ok it has been done - I upgraded my unRaid server...


Current Setup

Case: COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA785GMT-UD2H AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX
Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 6-Core 3.2GHz Socket AM3
CPU Fan: XIGMATEK Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition CPU Cooler
PowerSupply: CORSAIR CXM series CX600M 600W ATX12V v2.3 SLI CrossFire 80

New Setup listed Below

Used following two parts from current setup....
Case: COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP

PowerSupply: CORSAIR CXM series CX600M 600W ATX12V v2.3 SLI CrossFire 80

New items.....

Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme3 LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Memory: Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200)

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2658 V3 ES QEYF 2.0Ghz 12Core 30M Equivalent to QEYP

CPU Fan: ARCTIC COOLING Freezer i32

MB + Memory + CPU Fan – 319.97 – 40 MIR = 279.47

CPU = 205

Upgrade Cost $484.47
 

minimini

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Finally got this workstation completed, it took me very long time to get all pieces together. Lots of components I waited to show up on ebay, like DDR4 and SAS cables. I missed a chance to get DDR4-2666, but 2400 will do, and if I was more patient there are now E5-2673 QS which look awesome...

So this is what I got:
Asus Z10PE D8 WS (bios 3304)
2 x 2698 V4 QHZD
128 RDIMM (8x16)
2 x LSI SAS controllers (IT passthru-unraid and raid one)
2 x NVidia 1070 (sli)
1 x Samsung SM961 NVMe SSD (boot)
and bunch of other disks on these LSI SAS controllers
(and old 40" 4k Philips from previous configuration)

CPUs and SASs and DDR4 are from ebay (used). Other components are new.

All worked from the first try. Motherboard can handle all variety of hardware I plug in and I am impressed that this all works 100% stable 24/7 for days considering these are ES A1 chips.




Cinebench R15 benchmark should be between 4200 - 4300, but I had there were 4 vmWares running in background, so result was somewhat lower.

One remark on ASUS mobo, when cpu gets warm, bios doesn't push fans to max dynamically (yes using PWM fans), but instead I need to set speed in bios. After having insane amount of features in bios I don't understand how they missed this one, hopefully they will add it...

Anyway, I can happily confirm that these ES chips work well even if mobo is overloaded with all kind of PCIe cards. Thanks to ASUS to support these ES toys and stable mobo.

I hope this helps someone... Also thanks everyone in this thread for their posts, it helped me to take the decision (first time ES) otherwise I would never have budget for workstation like this if I had to go for retail chips and new SAS or memory.

PS: for those who wonder why LSI and not Intel SB, well, copy speed in windows is between 500MB/s to 1.6GB/s on LSI, while Intel is dropping speed terribly when doing simultaneous operations (e.g. multiple vmware)
 
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krista

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hi! i have a particular xeon e5 v3 es/qs cpu i'd like to trade for a different xeon e5 v3 es/qs cpu of about the same value.


can i post this request either on the for sale/trade board or here? if not, any recommendations?
 

Jointer

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About Z10PE and fans - they are regulated dynamically, but the temperature where they spin up is 55-60C, if you have set them i think High speed (which is 50% PWM, not sure). That is temperature i personally do not reach.
 

udria

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I think it's a very good CPU. 2.3GHz at default and 2.5GHz all core Turbo. Should be at least 5-7% more fast than 2683V3