Intel Xeon E5-2670 Deal and Price Tracking

[fossxplorer]

Quite attractive this one for us here in Europe.
What hold me back from buying 2 x E5-2670 is the prices of MB and one that can fit into an SM CSE826 2U.
SM's own LGA2011 MBs are so expensive and the selection is often to found in US mostly => bringing the total price even higher.
I now have a new SM 732-400W chassis laying, untouched. 400W might not be enough, but i also have a EVGA 750W laying around that can be used.
Might consider a build with 2 x E5-2670.
So first hunt is a good and reasonable priced MB. That deal from Serbia was a bargain IMO.

with that price , better I take this
ASROCK MAINBOARD SSI-EEB DUAL-SOCKET LGA2011 14xSATA 16xMEM EP2C602-4L/D16

 

[Boddy]

What about Intel S2600CP2J Motherboard $175 from Natex?

Intel S2600CP2J Motherboard, Natex.us

Other versions are avail with CPU and/or RAM.

Check the Natex thread on the 'For Sale' section on this forum to see if Natex is offering any discount codes.

 

[Davewolfs]

The ThermalTake Suppressor works well if you don't mind screwing some holes or using plastic standoffs. About the smallest case you can get I think for this board.

Boards are not cheap and I wouldn't waste time with used but I guess that is the price to pay when the CPU's are only $70 each. Using the X9DAE and although I initially had some sleep issues. It now works flawlessly.

 

[Mad1981]

What about Intel S2600CP2J Motherboard $175 from Natex?

Intel S2600CP2J Motherboard, Natex.us

Other versions are avail with CPU and/or RAM.

Check the Natex thread on the 'For Sale' section on this forum to see if Natex is offering any discount codes.

wow that's a great offer !! thanks

 

[abstractalgebra]

Where and what are you guys paying for the RAM for the E5-2670 systems? (1333)

 

[RobertFontaine]

Natex has reasonable pricing on the DDR3 ECC 1333 and similarly cheap prices can be found on fleabay.
We should probably start a RAM deals thread to go with our 2670 thread and the 3500 ssd thread.

Good 8GB pricing is easy to find. 16GB dimm deals are significantly more rare but do seem to happen occasionally if you have cash in your paypal account at the right times. I'm not sure that I "need" 256GB of ram however. I also don't need 128GB but the slots are available and 8gb are hard to pass up on currently.

 

[Boddy]

wow that's a great offer !! thanks

Did you see if there is any applicable discount codes or if you have any queries you like to ask Natex, you can do so here:

Awesome Deals on 10Gb NIC Cards, Switches and Servers

 

[AdditionalPylons]

Does anyone know when we can expect the E5-2687W and the E5-2690 to come down to similar prices? I have been using the E5-2670 on a X79 motherboard but I wouldn't mind to get a E5-2687W for not too much more.

My guess is this will not happen, simply because there has not been a lot of large scale installations of that processor. The W suffix indicates that it's made for workstations, with higher frequency and TDP, which is not easy to handle in a tightly packed rack environment. The reason we're seeing a lot of cheap 2670's is because they have been decommissioned from large compute clusters, putting large batches for sale at the same time. Workstation decommissioning will probably be much more spread out, keeping prices higher. If someone manages to dig out sales figures for individual Intel models that could of course help, but I speculate the W sales figures are much smaller than the regular Xeons.

For the future outlook, looking at the statistics at List Statistics | TOP500 Supercomputer Sites (and choosing Processor generation as category), my next bet is on Ivy Bridge processors (23.6% of the June 2016). If you have a lot of time on your hands you can probably go through each list (two for every year) and extract more info about specific models, but I think the Xeon E5-2660v2/2680v2/2697v2 all look fairly common.
Ivy Bridge Xeons also have the advantage of being compatible with most of the motherboards already being used for the 2670's.

 

[RobertFontaine]

The 2680v2 are coming down in price to the point where they are interesting but I suspect that by the time the become dirt cheap there will be better v3 options and moving to the newer platform will make more sense. The 2697v2 would be a fine upgrade but I suspect it will carry a premium till long after I have swapped to a v3.

 

[Stereodude]

Yes while the W version is a workstation wouldn't it be fair to say that most heatsinks even in a server environment are capable of cooling the 150W TDP E5-2687W version unless it is passively cooled and very space limited?

What do you mean by capable of cooling? 150W is not exactly trivial to cool.

Most of the server type boards don't list support for 150W CPUs. The workstation single processor boards do.

 

[Fritz]

Just my 2 cents... when I put together my dual E5 2670 system I started out with a couple of Dynatron R14's that were recommended by someone here. They did a lousy job of cooling and caused the fans to constantly rev up and down. Under load I was hitting the high 70s on one CPU and low 80s on the other. I replaced them with a couple of Supermicro active coolers and temps dropped dramatically. They now go no higher than mid 60s when pegged by Prime95. This is where they are normally.

 

[svt3391]

I am using Super Micro SNK-P0050AP4.

This is currently reported from my VMWare ESXi 6.

 

[wardtj]

I am using Super Micro SNK-P0050AP4.

This is currently reported from my VMWare ESXi 6.
View attachment 3156

Wow!

These are some high temps...

Here is me at idle...

# sensors

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0: +35.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +34.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +34.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2: +30.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3: +30.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4: +32.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5: +28.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 6: +33.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 7: +36.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 1: +37.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +36.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +35.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2: +37.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3: +32.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4: +33.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5: +32.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 6: +37.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 7: +32.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

This is with a snk-p0048ap4, on a Intel 2600CP2J, w/ 2xE5-2670's. I'm using Arctic Silver between the CPU and the copper heatsink block.

Kernel compiles, this one hits about 45C last time I checked...

I would double check your cooling solutions, since it should never run that high!

 

[rubylaser]

Wow!

These are some high temps...

Here is me at idle...

# sensors

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0: +35.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +34.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +34.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2: +30.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3: +30.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4: +32.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5: +28.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 6: +33.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 7: +36.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 1: +37.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +36.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +35.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2: +37.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3: +32.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4: +33.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5: +32.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 6: +37.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 7: +32.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

This is with a snk-p0048ap4, on a Intel 2600CP2J, w/ 2xE5-2670's. I'm using Arctic Silver between the CPU and the copper heatsink block.

Kernel compiles, this one hits about 45C last time I checked...

I would double check your cooling solutions, since it should never run that high!

I have an Intel S2600CP with (2) e5-2670's, 128GB of RAM, and (2) Supermicro SNK-P0050AP4's with Artic Silver thermal paste as well. I also have a Supermicro X9SRL-F with (1) e5-2670 and a single SNK-P0050AP4 with Artic Silver. My idle temps are similar to yours, but your load temps seem drastically lower than everyone else's under load. On both systems, I typically see 60°C, or slightly below that on an extended load. This is well within the acceptable temperature range for these CPUs and is honestly much lower than what others have seen with other heatsink options. The suggestion that 60C is super high on these CPUs just isn't the case.

For instance, here is a handbrake-cli encode of a 4K video from my camera to mkv.

root@loki:~# sensors
i350bb-pci-0700
Adapter: PCI adapter
loc1:         +51.0°C  (high = +120.0°C, crit = +110.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0:  +54.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:         +54.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:         +52.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2:         +54.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3:         +54.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4:         +51.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5:         +51.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 6:         +52.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 7:         +53.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 1:  +61.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:         +60.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:         +61.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2:         +59.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3:         +61.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4:         +58.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5:         +61.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 6:         +60.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 7:         +59.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

 

[wardtj]

I have an Intel S2600CP with (2) e5-2670's, 128GB of RAM, and (2) Supermicro SNK-P0050AP4's with Artic Silver thermal paste as well. I also have a Supermicro X9SRL-F with (1) e5-2670 and a single SNK-P0050AP4 with Artic Silver. My idle temps are similar to yours, but your load temps seem drastically lower than everyone else's under load. On both systems, I typically see 60°C, or slightly below that on an extended load. This is well within the acceptable temperature range for these CPUs and is honestly much lower than what others have seen with other heatsink options. The suggestion that 60C is super high on these CPUs just isn't the case.

For instance, here is a handbrake-cli encode of a 4K video from my camera to mkv.

root@loki:~# sensors
i350bb-pci-0700
Adapter: PCI adapter
loc1:         +51.0°C  (high = +120.0°C, crit = +110.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0:  +54.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:         +54.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:         +52.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2:         +54.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3:         +54.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4:         +51.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5:         +51.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 6:         +52.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 7:         +53.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 1:  +61.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:         +60.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:         +61.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2:         +59.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3:         +61.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4:         +58.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5:         +61.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 6:         +60.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 7:         +59.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

Talking about idle... some of these are idling in the very high 40's almost 50s, that's way to high. They should be lower, similar to ours at idle. Hot room, etc, can cause it. The ambient for the room this particular machine is in is 25C, 32%H. Not exactly "cool", but, the CPU's at idle are not that high up.

Here is a Linux 4.2 make -j 32 modules,

i350bb-pci-0b00
Adapter: PCI adapter
loc1: +50.0°C (high = +120.0°C, crit = +110.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0: +44.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +41.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +42.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2: +39.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3: +41.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4: +40.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5: +38.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 6: +42.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 7: +43.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 1: +53.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +49.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +48.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2: +46.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3: +45.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4: +45.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5: +53.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 6: +50.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 7: +46.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

For the Intel, I have Balanced performance enabled, plus I went into the settings and enabled all C states. My Intel governor is Performance, and will range between 1.2 and 3.3GHz. Being in a computer room here, the fan noise is not an issue, so my fans are idling probably higher than most.

I agree 60C is normal for load, but, mid to upper 40's, and almost 50C for idle is not. I would check the fans and check the thermal paste if my idle temps where that high.

 

[rubylaser]

Talking about idle... some of these are idling in the very high 40's almost 50s, that's way to high. They should be lower, similar to ours at idle. Hot room, etc, can cause it. The ambient for the room this particular machine is in is 25C, 32%H. Not exactly "cool", but, the CPU's at idle are not that high up.

Here is a Linux 4.2 make -j 32 modules,

i350bb-pci-0b00
Adapter: PCI adapter
loc1: +50.0°C (high = +120.0°C, crit = +110.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0: +44.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +41.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +42.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2: +39.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3: +41.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4: +40.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5: +38.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 6: +42.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 7: +43.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 1: +53.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +49.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +48.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2: +46.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3: +45.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4: +45.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 5: +53.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 6: +50.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 7: +46.0°C (high = +90.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

For the Intel, I have Balanced performance enabled, plus I went into the settings and enabled all C states. My Intel governor is Performance, and will range between 1.2 and 3.3GHz. Being in a computer room here, the fan noise is not an issue, so my fans are idling probably higher than most.

I agree 60C is normal for load, but, mid to upper 40's, and almost 50C for idle is not. I would check the fans and check the thermal paste if my idle temps where that high.

Ah okay, that makes perfect sense then and is exactly the type of behavior I have observed on my two systems. Room temperature is obviously a factor, but I think for most people, it has been poor heats ink selection that has caused higher temps.

 

[Stereodude]

Ah okay, that makes perfect sense then and is exactly the type of behavior I have observed on my two systems. Room temperature is obviously a factor, but I think for most people, it has been poor heats ink selection that has caused higher temps.

Except the S2600CPJ2 motherboard many people are using uses closed loop thermal control and unless you hack the SDR file you're basically going to get the same thermals under load regardless of the heatsink.

 

[uton44]

I intend to pick up two E5-2670 sr0kx. I'm confused about the stepping code. I see that some ebay sellers are offering two processors with the same stepping at a small premium, but after a bit of research, it just seems that both processors just have to be C2 SR0KX. If that is indeed the case, I would rather purchase it from Natex. How have you guys approached the processor pairing?


I intend to get one of the ASRock C602 motherboard, Phantek Case, & Samsung 64GB of DDR3-1600 ECC 1.35v from Ebay - (I hope these HK/China sellers are reputable and the Ram is indeed new). I'll prob run a pair of 212 Evo coolers on them.

 

[rubylaser]

Except the S2600CPJ2 motherboard many people are using uses closed loop thermal control and unless you hack the SDR file you're basically going to get the same thermals under load regardless of the heatsink.

This is the case with a good heatsink where with the default sdr file, it seems to hover around 60C under load. With a modified version of the sdr fike, it will allow the fan to ramp up faster resulting in load temps potentially less than 60C.

What I was talking about is that 60C is reasonable for these CPUs under load. There have been a few people in this thread with heatsinks that "can't keep up", and as result are in the mid to upper 70's (or higher) under load.

 

[Stereodude]

This is the case with a good heatsink where with the default sdr file, it seems to hover around 60C under load. With a modified version of the sdr fike, it will allow the fan to ramp up faster resulting in load temps potentially less than 60C.

What I was talking about is that 60C is reasonable for these CPUs under load. There have been a few people in this thread with heatsinks that "can't keep up", and as result are in the mid to upper 70's (or higher) under load.

Well, that certainly wasn't my experience. I'm using an Intel chassis with two 120mm fans and the Intel tower heatsinks. It has full control of the fans via PWM. The fans stay at idle until the CPUs got to about 80C. Then they ramp as far as necessary to maintain that temperature. Based on what I saw the only way it would hit lower temps under full load is by my messing with the acoustic profile and altitude setting in the BIOS which increases the minimum PWM value / idle fan speed. That would have to be done to the point where even under full load it can't hit generate enough heat to the thermal target and the fans never speed up.

I changed the .SDR file around and lowered the thermal target to about 60C. The fans spin pretty slow at idle and it doesn't get crazy hot under load.