I am assuming that this cable will support the new pcie 4.0 nvme 2.5" drives like the samsung pm1733 and kioxia cm6? I think the slimsas side is 8 lanes and splits into 2x4 lanes. Do you know if there is any difference with this cable that uses a molex for power vs other cables that use sata power? Have you had any issues with this cable? Which type of drives are you using it with?The Tyan FRU-CS-1230/Slim SAS 8i to 2* U.2 (NVMe) cable is now available from retail (e.g. Acme Micro), the price is a steep $75. With shipping and taxes, it's an eye watering $95
Update: Purchased one and here's the pic. It comes with a Molex connector for power and not the usual SATA power connector (Enterprise NVMe drives will take 3.3v and 12v). Seems high quality and right now I'm looking for some refurb/second hand NVMe drives to test this out with.
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Yep - the v3 -> v3.01 BIOS did the same for ESXi and worse. I'm now debating whether to upgrade from v3.01 to v4.00, but I see that there's Fixed SOC P-state and DF C-state options. Might be useful for making the board more energy efficient ...in my case resulted in renumbered NICs such that I needed to reconfigure proxmox interfaces via ikvm before the machines were back up and running.
I am using the cable on a Samsung PM983 U.2 drive and it works fine. I briefly tested on an Intel NVME drive and it worked fine too. The cable is indeed SlimSAS x8 on one end and splits to 2 x SFF-8639 - I don't have a PCIe 4.0 drive to test.I am assuming that this cable will support the new pcie 4.0 nvme 2.5" drives like the samsung pm1733 and kioxia cm6? I think the slimsas side is 8 lanes and splits into 2x4 lanes. Do you know if there is any difference with this cable that uses a molex for power vs other cables that use sata power? Have you had any issues with this cable? Which type of drives are you using it with?
thanks for any tips!
These two BIOS options are requested by meYep - the v3 -> v3.01 BIOS did the same for ESXi and worse. I'm now debating whether to upgrade from v3.01 to v4.00, but I see that there's Fixed SOC P-state and DF C-state options. Might be useful for making the board more energy efficient ...
V4.00 - Date : 03/11/2021
- Filename : 8030V400.ROM
- Banner : TYAN S8030GM2NE BIOS V4.00
- CheckSum : 6BA3
- MD5 : 6f367c0aef6d360a11415ce933401376
- Recovery : 8030M001.CAP (Milan)
8030_001.CAP (Rome)
- AGESA Ver. : MilanPI-SP3 1.0.0.1
RomePI-SP3 1.0.0.A
- Microcode : B1 0x0A001119 (Milan)
B0 0x0A00103F (Milan)
B0 0x0830104D (Rome)
- VGA OpROM : V1.10
- LAN OpROM : I210: PXE: V1.5.85 EFI: V8.3.04 ISCSI: V3.1.30
- Description: Based on V3.01
1. Support Milan CPU Family 19h.
2. BIOS setup changed.
- Modify “APBDIS” item default to [1].
- Added “Fixed SOC PState” item and default is [P0].
- Added “DF CStates” item and default is [AUTO].
- Change HTTP string to HTTPS.
3. Enable CPU Group D platform feature.
4. SMBIOS Type1,2,3 retrieve from BMC FRU. (Modify SMBIOS directly is not allowed.)
Yes, I checked the spec and confirmed this. My neglectIt's 5V and 12V
perhaps the Kioxia needs 3.3V? Along with 5v and 12v?I ordered and received the tyan recommended slimsas cable. it works properly with the pm1733 but not the kioxia cm6. both are pcie 4.0 ssd drives but the kioxia is a u3 drive. the u3 drives are supposed to be backwards compatible with u2 connections. I am able to properly connect the kioxia drive to an asrock rack romed8 mb using an occulink to u2 cable. that cable works properly with both the u2 and u3 ssd drives. That cable differs from the tyan spec'd cable in that it uses a sata power connector instead of the molex. I am not sure if there are other differences in the cables. It could also be a difference in the mb, tyan vs asrock rack. both of these drives are 12v and the tyan cable has a molex connector that apparently works with the 12v drives. I just wanted to add some additional info jus in case someone has similar questions. I also updated to the latest bios. I am planning on upgrading to the milan cpus with this board and have been testing with some early releases.
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do you know what the significance of the 2 different steppings is? where did you find that info? Do you know if this is the same for the -2T variant? Tyan mentioned that the difference between the 2 different bios (2.0 vs 4.0) is mainly the 10GE nics.If anyone is interested in the notes for BIOS v4.00
Things to note:
- There's two steppings for Milan (B0 and B1)
- New microcode for Rome
- New AGESA for Rome (RomePI 1.0.0.A)
Code:V4.00 - Date : 03/11/2021 - Filename : 8030V400.ROM - Banner : TYAN S8030GM2NE BIOS V4.00 - CheckSum : 6BA3 - MD5 : 6f367c0aef6d360a11415ce933401376 - Recovery : 8030M001.CAP (Milan) 8030_001.CAP (Rome) - AGESA Ver. : MilanPI-SP3 1.0.0.1 RomePI-SP3 1.0.0.A - Microcode : B1 0x0A001119 (Milan) B0 0x0A00103F (Milan) B0 0x0830104D (Rome) - VGA OpROM : V1.10 - LAN OpROM : I210: PXE: V1.5.85 EFI: V8.3.04 ISCSI: V3.1.30 - Description: Based on V3.01 1. Support Milan CPU Family 19h. 2. BIOS setup changed. - Modify “APBDIS” item default to [1]. - Added “Fixed SOC PState” item and default is [P0]. - Added “DF CStates” item and default is [AUTO]. - Change HTTP string to HTTPS. 3. Enable CPU Group D platform feature. 4. SMBIOS Type1,2,3 retrieve from BMC FRU. (Modify SMBIOS directly is not allowed.)
replying to my own post however I still don't have an answer as to why the tyan recommended cable does not work with the kioxia. It seems that both drives require 12v and 3.3v:it shows +12v on both the pm1733 and the kioxia cd6. the pm1733 is 2.3A and the kioxia is 2.6A. both drives work ok with the oculink cable for the romed8 mb. I used the following for the romed8:
DiLinKer OCuLink(SFF-8611) to PCIE SFF-8639 U.2 NVMe with Power Cable(1M)
and used the tyan recommended one for the s8030:
Tyan FRU-CS-1230 Slim SAS 8i to 2* U.2 (NVMe) Cable
pcie 4.0 can be pretty sensitive but not sure why it works with the samsung but not the kioxia (other than the main difference being the samsung is u.2 and the kioxia is u.3.
Power Requirements | |||
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Supply Voltage | 12 V ± 10%, 3.3 Vaux ± 15% | ||
Power Consumption (Active) | 19 W Typ. | 15 W Typ. | 13 W Typ. |
Power Consumption (Ready) | 5.0 W Typ. |
If you look at v 4.00 README - it lists the three steppings (two - B0 and B1 - for Milan and one - B0 - for Rome) for the microcodedo you know what the significance of the 2 different steppings is? where did you find that info? Do you know if this is the same for the -2T variant? Tyan mentioned that the difference between the 2 different bios (2.0 vs 4.0) is mainly the 10GE nics.
Found the SFF-8654 to 2 x U.2 cable on TaoBao: SFF8654(SLIMSAS)转SFF8639NVMe(U.2)线缆SAS连接线-淘宝网replying to my own post however I still don't have an answer as to why the tyan recommended cable does not work with the kioxia. It seems that both drives require 12v and 3.3v:
looks like that might do the trick. Now the trick is how to actually purchase from themFound the SFF-8654 to 2 x U.2 cable on TaoBao: SFF8654(SLIMSAS)转SFF8639NVMe(U.2)线缆SAS连接线-淘宝网