ES Xeon Discussion

[RolloZ170]

How big of a deal are future mobo compatibility issues with early steppings? It seems Asus and Gigabyte X99 mobos dont support early stepping chips at all but Asrock dont seem to care: Intel Xeon E5-2683 v4 Broadwell-EP CPU 1.6GHz 16-Core 120W Max 3.0GHz QH27 ES
Will Asrock start to care and lock out early stepping chips? Has that ever happened before?

IMHO the reason that early v4 ES not running on gigabyte is not that's not wanted,
they're biosprogrammer is not as sophisticated as the asrock's are.
The early 4 ES runs not on ASUS x99, but fine on ASUS Z10xxxx.
The early v3 ES running fine on gigabyte x99, what i saw is my ga-x99M gam5 has an very old microcode rev. for v4 ES than asrock has...maybe a reason.
ASRock i.e. starts mobo's to overlock Skylake CPU by BCLK, and later Intel inhibits that with new microcode.
So i dont think ASRock will stop early ES support.
There are v4 QS but very expensive and hard to find, more will come later on the market, its still to early for those.
If you worry about, buy haswell-ep v3 QS.

 

[RolloZ170]

1. getting a QF/QG haswell since these are close to the retail release of that chip right?

Correct, they are called QS qualifying samples.

 

[ZerothAlpha]

Intel Xeon E5-2630L v4 ES LGA2011-3 10C Compatible with X99 i7-6850K 6900K 6950X
Intel Xeon E5-2648L v3 ES LGA2011-3 Compatible X99 E5-2650L v3 i7-6850K 6900K
Intel Xeon E5-2628L v4 Low Power CPU 1.5GHz 12 Cores 65W QHV8 ES
Intel Xeon E5 2650L V3 QS 1.4Ghz 30MB L3 12 Core Max Turbo 2.0Ghz 75W Haswell-E
Could I have some feedback on which of the four preceding ES CPUs should I purchase? I plan on using it with an Asrock Rack EPC612D4I. Low TDP is absolutely critical, as I will be using it in a low-airflow/low-noise build. Thanks

 

[T_Minus]

I got the 2628L v4 and use it in my backup NAS/storage it's def. low power and so far working fine for me (SuperMIcro board).
With any ES you need to keep in mind that YMMV.

 

[TLN]

What is best bang for the buck with ES Xeons?
I was looking at E5-2670 Xeons for a while, but it doesn't seem rational to spend $70 on CPU and $300 for mobo.

I'm looking at
E5-2658 v3 - QEYP - 12Core @2.0Ghz
E5-2683 v3 - QEY7 - 14 Core @2.0Ghz
E5-2676 v3 - xxxx - 12 Core @2.4 Ghz
What are other models? 2658 seems to be a great deal, anyone running that?
I'd prefer faster clock speed. Reading about "amazon" cpus in that thread.

Since I'm looking for a new build, what are recommended mobos? ASUE Z10PE? AsRock EP2C612? Other ideas?

 

[RolloZ170]

Intel Xeon E5-2630L v4 ES LGA2011-3 10C Compatible with X99 i7-6850K 6900K 6950X
Intel Xeon E5-2648L v3 ES LGA2011-3 Compatible X99 E5-2650L v3 i7-6850K 6900K
Intel Xeon E5-2628L v4 Low Power CPU 1.5GHz 12 Cores 65W QHV8 ES
Intel Xeon E5 2650L V3 QS 1.4Ghz 30MB L3 12 Core Max Turbo 2.0Ghz 75W Haswell-E
Could I have some feedback on which of the four preceding ES CPUs should I purchase? I plan on using it with an Asrock Rack EPC612D4I. Low TDP is absolutely critical, as I will be using it in a low-airflow/low-noise build. Thanks

The last one labeled as QS is NOT one.
The only one with same stepping R0 than OEM/retail is the E5-2630Lv4 ES QK3K you should buy now,

 

[Jann]

I have one of these on my bench right now. I am waiting for the motherboard and ram to get here to put it together and try it. Parts should be here Tuesday.

Could you please run a Corona Renderer Benchmark on the E5-2686V3 and post results?
I'm considering it for my upcoming workstation due to high core count but also good enough 1-2 core turbo for 3d work. But since it's not exactly retail, can't find benchmarks other than Cinebench.
Would very much appreciate it!

 

[adrian decebal]

Hello to all,

can someone kindly advise me for an ES Xeon with the following specs, for my Dell T5810 - K240Y - board:
1. low power (under 75w)
2. 10+ cores
3. good stepping

Currently I'm looking at:
- E5-2628L v4 ES - QHV8 - 12 core
- E5-2630L v4 ES - 10 core - is this the one adviced by RolloZ170 ?

Thank you,
Adrian

 

[TheJackal83]

I like to say that I’m really happy that there is a “decent ” thread about the ES Cpu’s.
Allot of people know about these chips, but have no knowledge about them.
So I like to take this moment to say; thank you to the people who are sharing their knowledge with us Thanks! And please keep sharing

 

[Viktor N]

Hello peeps, I also ordered two of the Xeon E5 2698 V4 ES QHUZ 2.0Ghz 50MB 20Core beauties from ebay, it will be a bit of time before they arrive but I'm hoping to test them w/ an ASUS Z10PED16_WS and report back with findings.
In the meanwhile, can anyone suggest a decent, quiet cooler that will handle the CPUs? [found this one: Noctua NH-U9DX i4, any good?]
Thanks

V.

 

[TheJackal83]

Hello peeps, I also ordered two of the Xeon E5 2698 V4 ES QHUZ 2.0Ghz 50MB 20Core beauties from ebay, it will be a bit of time before they arrive but I'm hoping to test them w/ an ASUS Z10PED16_WS and report back with findings.
In the meanwhile, can anyone suggest a decent, quiet cooler that will handle the CPUs?
Thanks

V.

I received my cpu's on friday. Same board, waiting on the ram ( will be delivered today )
Will be cooling them with water.

I always liked the Cooler Master V8 GTS but it's quite expensive.

 

[Viktor N]

I received my cpu's on friday. Same board, waiting on the ram ( will be delivered today )
Will be cooling them with water.

I always liked the Cooler Master V8 GTS but it's quite expensive.

Too expensive
The Noctua (Noctua NH-U9DX i4) seems like a decent choice, though I've read it's pretty low in terms of RAM fitting around it. Anyone ever had issues w/ this? I was looking to pick a memory from the mobo's approved memory list, so they aren't actively cooled - in other words they should fit okay I think...

 

[RolloZ170]

Could you please run a Corona Renderer Benchmark on the E5-2686V3 and post results?
I'm considering it for my upcoming workstation due to high core count but also good enough 1-2 core turbo for 3d work. But since it's not exactly retail, can't find benchmarks other than Cinebench.
Would very much appreciate it!

Here is it....

 

[RolloZ170]

Hello to all,

can someone kindly advise me for an ES Xeon with the following specs, for my Dell T5810 - K240Y - board:
1. low power (under 75w)
2. 10+ cores
3. good stepping

Currently I'm looking at:
- E5-2628L v4 ES - QHV8 - 12 core
- E5-2630L v4 ES - 10 core - is this the one adviced by RolloZ170 ?

Thank you,
Adrian

It is the right link, i made a picture of the turbo bins today.
when u disable 4 cores, 6 cores will run at 2400 mhz.
interesting....

 

[TLN]

Too expensive
The Noctua (Noctua NH-U9DX i4) seems like a decent choice, though I've read it's pretty low in terms of RAM fitting around it. Anyone ever had issues w/ this? I was looking to pick a memory from the mobo's approved memory list, so they aren't actively cooled - in other words they should fit okay I think...

I'd suggest other way(and that's what I might do actually):
Grab a AIO watercooler may be? Since you won't overclock that chip - single 140mm rad will be enough, I think. It's a bit pricey(and you need two), and scary, but I expect it will be way mroe efficient and silent. You also have more space around CPU(install any memory), and way better air flow inside.

 

[maxp779]

I like to say that I’m really happy that there is a “decent ” thread about the ES Cpu’s.
Allot of people know about these chips, but have no knowledge about them.
So I like to take this moment to say; thank you to the people who are sharing their knowledge with us Thanks! And please keep sharing

Agreed.

Also every other thread I find on google has at least 5 people rambling/arguing about the legal issues surrounding ES chips. I asked on another forum and one user literally told me Intel could call the police and then the police would show up and confiscate my PC

 

[Viktor N]

I'd suggest other way(and that's what I might do actually):
Grab a AIO watercooler may be? Since you won't overclock that chip - single 140mm rad will be enough, I think. It's a bit pricey(and you need two), and scary, but I expect it will be way mroe efficient and silent. You also have more space around CPU(install any memory), and way better air flow inside.

Two of these for example?
Silverstone TD03 - Slim Tundra Liquid Cooler [or]
Corsair H45 120mm Intel/AMD CPU AIO Hydro/Water Cooler

 

[TLN]

Two of these for example?
Silverstone TD03 - Slim Tundra Liquid Cooler [or]
Corsair H45 120mm Intel/AMD CPU AIO Hydro/Water Cooler

Exactly. Depending on a case, 140mm rad is a better idea.

 

[Rand__]

In the meanwhile, can anyone suggest a decent, quiet cooler that will handle the CPUs? [found this one: Noctua NH-U9DX i4, any good?]

I have that one since it came with a Narrow ILM adapter. It cools decently (but on the other hand the 2630v4 is not too hot), but its not really quiet. Its a relatively small fan (80mm) so it has the usual high pitched noise level (opposed to the 120mm Noctua's I am used to at least)

 

[adrian decebal]

It is the right link, i made a picture of the turbo bins today.
when u disable 4 cores, 6 cores will run at 2400 mhz.
interesting....
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Isn't it that disabling come of the cores then running the remaining higher might burn the disabled ones ?

Adrian